2017-12-27, 03:32 | Link #41 | |
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If this country doesn't devolve into civil war because of this bullsh*t then I think that it is imperative that every single congressman helping Trump right now be actively punished to an extreme severe degree no matter what the consequences of making that happen as soon as we get a chance to fix all of the changes done to the government and establish new agencies and new checks and balances on the democratic process. We need to punish the people behind all of this so hard so that no one would ever allow their greed to be abused to such a degree. We should allow people in power to willingly break laws just to enforce punishments on everyone involved because half of the country should learn that they should be punished for being so damn irresponsible about everything to follow Trump regardless of what he does. It's absolutely disgusting to the point where the people who throw their undying support around him deserve to be punished and brought back to reality and broken out of their f*cking fervor. I understand that it's bad to be polarized, but what really has to happen is that we need to figure out ways around media manipulation. Fox news needs to be punished somehow, but I doubt that would happen. Everyone's just pursuing their own interests, and small people can't do anything about it since people just watch the media and get imaginary villains to get angry about. No one's ever going to fix any problems until people are literally forced to see both sides of the issue.
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2017-12-27, 06:53 | Link #42 | |
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I do agree something has to be done about actual fake news, though. Poor reporting is one thing (which is what Republicans rally against), but actual fake news the likes of Fox does while smugly proclaiming that it's just an entertainment show needs to stop. |
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2017-12-27, 09:53 | Link #43 | |
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1. You have to earn the right to get a higher position, 2. it teaches the person humility and makes them realize what it means to be in a position of power(also the higher your position, the more worse is your punishment), 3. it prevent people who are lazy, corrupt or are in it for themselves and not the state to gain power. Thus if Mr Trump was ever in the Terran Federation universe, he may still be a billionaire/millionaire civilian, but he will never be be elected in a government position since he didn't do Federal Services(since all the things he did in our world makes him ineligible for Citizenship).
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2017-12-27, 11:48 | Link #44 | |
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I'm all for dumping anyone who is lazy, corrupt, or in for him/herself out of political circles. That would be a good way to get rid of politicians who never had any sense of what it means to serve constituents. Last edited by Toukairin; 2017-12-27 at 23:45. |
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2017-12-28, 00:30 | Link #45 | ||
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here a news to make the "supreme leader trump" really happy and finally get the "love" his diservers:
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and a "news to make him angry "while israel bows down love trump, looks like in US someone "else" still more loved tham him. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...an-man-in-poll Quote:
Even the "hated hilary is more popular than trump woman and a lot popular while trump "woman" was in the last , looks like the orange man maybe need a new "wife" cuz his currently one is not really popular as he need
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2017-12-28, 06:45 | Link #47 | |
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Also, get over Hillary already. You Trump supporters are like spurned lovers with her. |
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2017-12-28, 12:11 | Link #48 | ||
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Because it was so spectacular (hillarious I would say ) that it will be remembered for a long time. Well at least till the next election. Or maybe a year more. Who knows
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2017-12-28, 12:27 | Link #49 | |
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trump approval rates is the perfect exemple of how accuracy is that polls toward him http://news.gallup.com/poll/201617/g...-approval.aspx them look at obama approval during his first year http://news.gallup.com/poll/113980/g...tm_medium=copy while trump is strugling to get on 40% obama was easy at 52%, that show the gap between obama and trump and make sense obama still beingmore "loved than trump".
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2017-12-28, 12:53 | Link #50 | ||
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Says the same guy who would call it the exact same and worse if Trump had lost. The hypocrisy is strong as always with the republicans.
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Rep B: Hillary Clinton lost the election!!! Rep A: That was a year ago. Did our party not achieve anything in the 1~year since then? Rep B: We passed the tax bill!!! Rep A: And it is extremely unpopular since it only benefits the richest. Anything positive? Rep B: We did so many things!!! Better than every previous legislation!!! Rep A: Like what? Rep B: ... Rep A: ... Rep B: Hillary Clinton sucks!!! Daily conversation between republicans. |
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It makes no sense to compare it. This election was special and he started with low % from the very beginning unlike any previous president anyway. The flows are similar to other presidents though.
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2017-12-28, 13:29 | Link #52 | |
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here bush http://news.gallup.com/poll/116500/p...orge-bush.aspx he started much better tham both trump and obama and have a much better first year only on his second term which his popularity started to fall, again while trump still not exactly the worst popularity he is the one being more "stable" when comes to "bad", but indeed we only can know how things gonna end after 2018, after the senate vote, if the "decrease" in republicans position keep happening(like happened in the last 2 elections) and GOP lose the majority of congress then we can see trump presidence ending in 2018 at best 2019, if they manage to keep enough to not allow that happening and someone find a way to "lock trump hands and mouth to not allow he "trolls" on twitter" then maybe his popularity can get better, but as long trump keep "sabotage himself with all his bigotris and stupid then gonna be really hard see trump reach more tham 40% and keep being the president more "stable as being the less popular", cuz others which where much less popular tham him at last managed to hold at 50% for sometimes before things goes bad. Here overal American presidents http://news.gallup.com/interactives/...campaign=tiles as we see overal trump is the one "outside the curve", where most of the presidents have a good start and only later get bad while trump started "near bad" and instead of improve just fall down and get stable around he "bad zone", he is te only one "stable on the bad zone, ofcourse we are talking about just first year, we need to see until the end if trump manage to pull some miracle to improve his "rates".
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2017-12-28, 13:47 | Link #53 | |||
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That's not an achievement. The abysmal approval rating (33%) suggests otherwise. I'd expect more than one (1) passed legislation. Quote:
Nonsense. Trump was elected like every other president before him. His low approval ratings are his own fault. What flows are you even talking about and how are they similar? |
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2017-12-28, 13:49 | Link #54 |
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all Trump base cares nowadays is "triggering" leftists
I mean look at net neutrality about a year ago they were in FAVOR of net neutrality but then they changed their minds because "leftist" were rallying against it So they changed tones and also banned people who went "wait, what! Net neutrality is good fam! from their community the process It's like how Trump's modus operandi is to undo everything Obama has signed into a bill They operate on spite. Honestly my only expectation for Trump base is for them to at least hold Trump to his anti war platform but I get the impression that Trump wants a war with North Korea and Iran preferably at the same time! Last edited by Key Board; 2017-12-28 at 14:00. |
2017-12-28, 14:36 | Link #55 |
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Triggering leftists have become a literal meme because their tendency to blame everything and anything on someone else has reached the pinnacle of hypocrisy. After decades of being told that everything on the right is racist, that this country is soaked in “institutional racism,” “structural racism” and “subconscious racism,” many Americans have become numb to such allegations. Likewise, many are sick of the condescending, nonsense term “white privilege,” which is generally cited by college-educated white liberals to affirm their own moral superiority over the conservative other.
This is also part of a clear pattern in which the left uses wildly dishonest language to describe Trump. I can’t help but notice the progression over the last year; running the rounds from Trump is a fascist, to a traitor, and now a white supremacist. That such irresponsible accusations have been echoed and amplified by the mainstream press has only proven to honest observers that this amounts to political foul play. The left understands the depth of irrational hatred for this president, and are exploiting it. The right understands that it is impossible to have a meaningful discussion at this point. Perhaps if many of the politically motivated liberals would talk to their opponents, and not down to them; a more open discussion would unfold.
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2017-12-28, 14:54 | Link #56 | |
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a traitor because does indeed betrayed his LGBT base after many promisses during his campaing about help and protect them, then when he get elected one of his first acts was ban transgender surgery, was ban gays/lesbian from army, he basically lied to them and showed his true colors, the same could be said for others peoples where during his campaing he told one thing then did opposite and while others presidents also could had lied too in promises almost none of them where so "open" about lies, his "fake" news meme is there to proof how really truthfull trump is. about "white supremacist", well what are majority of his base??: kkk, white supremacists and neo nazists them remember when he refused to blame that"fine peoples" over the problems, also remember who was trump father?? a running nazist?? while maybe trump could not be a white supremacists his actions make hard to not see him as one, since he keep doing things which make him looks like one. Trump worst enemie, is not hillary, not democrats, not the news neither obama, or even republicans or GOP but himself and his terrible "ego" and need to be aclamed by someone even if that "someone" are trash peoples and if that peoples worship trump as a "god" them he will happy support them even at the cost losing popularity, trump is really not to much into being "popular" he only care to get the love of the "peoples which does support him" anyone else is expendable for him.
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First of all, it was extremely media and internet based. The amount of people over the internet is much more nowadays then before.
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If I bring a thousand mexicans and a hundred rednecks, I presume opening border might gain more votes (though usually those who passed the border vote for closing it for some reason guess they know something ) It is. Make it burn for so long is an achievent itself Well it's not as Trump has a complete support for everything. Politicians have different leaning in questions and politics. Different connections and so on. It's not like Trump is trying to applease the whole party and other party. Quote:
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His father was a nazi? A lot of germans (and not germans though) were nazi. I mean its ideology of its time (and have some remnants nowadays) If Hitler did not put people into the owens the result would be a completely different. Anyway liberals made the racist and nazi words irrelevant by labeling that way everybody whom they disagreed. Quote:
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Pouring oil into a conflict that would have long passed on since without is just wasted time not used on solving actual problems but I doubt you will see it as such. Quote:
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That's just a general statement and does not answer why we supposedly cannot compare Trump's first year to previous presidents. Last edited by Eisdrache; 2017-12-28 at 15:54. |
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2017-12-28, 15:30 | Link #59 | |
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But banning words goes both ways - as soon as it is allowed, government gains the ability to do that itself on the much higher level (it is not like they cannot do it now but widespreading allow flowing the Overton window much faster). And then we'll have the same people who wanted to ban something, crying because somebody is banning the word they use. Sometimes it leads to results like the "fall of Western Roman Empire" or Neogaf Anyway I ran into a golden image of the purest SJW conversation (image itself, not that comment) Spoiler:
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2017-12-28, 15:39 | Link #60 |
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Maybe Trump isn't a white nationalist, but he sure has enabled them
Remember, that he gave STEVE BANNON the chief white house strategist position once and that's just the tip of the iceberg and the reason why you don't have "dialogues" with Neo Nazi is because they don't want a dialogue They want you dead Have you checked the recent news? |
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