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View Poll Results: KanColle - Episode 10 Rating
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9 out of 10 : Excellent 2 9.52%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 6 28.57%
7 out of 10 : Good 5 23.81%
6 out of 10 : Average 5 23.81%
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4 out of 10 : Poor 2 9.52%
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Old 2015-03-11, 14:09   Link #21
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Geez, ぐらばく's comment is scary and funny at the same time.
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Old 2015-03-11, 14:31   Link #22
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It is rare for this anime to make two characters from different group of friend / ship standing next to each others like this.

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Old 2015-03-11, 14:34   Link #23
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several things I learn from this episode :

PvP with other kantai is the best way to boost your lvl
Teitoku is a lolicon and already make a grand plan to succeed Fubuki as his new secretary and marry her so far, it is teitoku-doori

It is a pity that they didn't give Fubuki her kai-ni uniform... Fubuki is already plain enough in her kai-ni form but without her uniform, it is really didn't sound like major remodel

I really hope Mutsuki at least could slap Fubuki for her carelessness

can't get enough of Yuudachi poi~~ Yuudachi kai-ni so cool
and finally we get Chitose and Chiyoda in this episode... although only from their back
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Old 2015-03-11, 14:42   Link #24
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Historically speaking, wasn't Fubuki's red trim represented in her kai-ni unifom from when she was assigned to the Solomons (after Midway)?
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Old 2015-03-11, 15:12   Link #25
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I like the composition of the training sequence with Akagi and Kaga. Although I still wonder whether it would've been better in the light of the recent two episodes if they hadn't given Fubuki that great success as flagship of the 5th Fleet.

Oh, and after some episodes this one returned with a 3D sequence that irked me: Fubuki after remodeling. It looks strange with Fubuki in 3D, while Mutsuki and Yūdachi standing next to her are drawn. Yeah, they probably did this because Fubuki was moving around while the other two were standing. But still, it doesn't look good. Again shows that something with time/budget is off when they have to save at sequences like this. MI better look great.
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Old 2015-03-11, 15:18   Link #26
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^ Yep, and it is quite irritating since Fubuki was the very same girl who told Zuikaku AND Kaga to stick with textbook strategies and all. Even if she was unsure about herself as a flagship, she took the best course of actions there. Same could be said when Zuikaku almost got toasted by a torpedo.
Here, she went completely newbie mode who wants exp points ASAP (the camera pan on her arrogant expression after hitting the abyssal CL says a lot), even though she reconsidered her role after last week drama.

That's why all of these ups and downs are annoying me. I wish they went through with this plot line INSTEAD of the fifth fleet "arc".
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Old 2015-03-11, 15:22   Link #27
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I liked how Kaga-san kept giving Fubuki new chances to prove herself though clearly she was out of her league to defend herself against multiple planes yet protect somebody else. But man, I can't get used to this serious Akagi given how much fandom fun Akagi I have seen those past weeks. XD

I'm a bit worried that Fubuki might lose sight of her goal though, she already IS useful to somebody, to Mutsuki-chan, but all she sees/wants to be useful for is Akagi-san. And given all the deathflag Akagi has I worry for Fubuki's sanity in case of Akagi getting sunk. :/

Also dat random marriage dream outta nowhere. What kinda admiral bases his strategy around a girl he dreamed off?^^;
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Old 2015-03-11, 15:22   Link #28
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Fubuki's Kai was pretty lack luster.
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Old 2015-03-11, 15:23   Link #29
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I wonder is the Fifth fleet arc was added in late to incorperate Zuikaku.
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Old 2015-03-11, 15:27   Link #30
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I also got surprised by "that scene". Somewhat of a laugh out of "wow really?".

Strange choice for them to do with her remodel being kai ni equipment but without the kai ni rigging and clothes. All in all, I think her strength should be kai ni level as people were even expecting her to be more trained than Yuudachi and get a remodel first with Yuudachi happening first because of the lower level. Actually does the normal kai even exist here? Yuudachi and all the DDs girls last episode acted as they never saw a remodel before, even thought Yuudachi got her kai ni change and the others should have been experienced enough for the first remodel.

As I mentioned before, considering Midway is on the end of the anime, I think it's unlikely Akagi will sunk. They may almost sink but still survive. This is supposed to be a story about Bucky's grown, so having someone sink at the very end wouldn't work for that, in my opinion. Also different from actual Midway, this time they know the enemy known their codes so they even using a codename so they do'nt know where they're attacking.

I wonder what happened to the admiral. Did he just die? If he didn't, why didn't he just came back? I mean he was in the base, it's not like an air attack would thrown him kilometers away without killing him. I hope they don't pretend to make him really be the player, where what we saw is happening inside the game and he just got some internet problems and can't connect...
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Old 2015-03-11, 15:44   Link #31
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I also got surprised by "that scene". Somewhat of a laugh out of "wow really?".
I was more like 'Wtf?! How random is that?'
What is even worse is the Admirals explaination for why Fubuki came to the district, considering how they only interacted with each other once or twice outside of his office.


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Strange choice for them to do with her remodel being kai ni equipment but without the kai ni rigging and clothes. All in all, I think her strength should be kai ni level as people were even expecting her to be more trained than Yuudachi and get a remodel first with Yuudachi happening first because of the lower level. Actually does the normal kai even exist here? Yuudachi and all the DDs girls last episode acted as they never saw a remodel before, even thought Yuudachi got her kai ni change and the others should have been experienced enough for the first remodel.
Which is why I'm not so sure if she is even KaiNi yet.
She pretty much has the same equipment as her Kai variant + an AA fire detector.

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As I mentioned before, considering Midway is on the end of the anime, I think it's unlikely Akagi will sunk. They may almost sink but still survive. This is supposed to be a story about Bucky's grown, so having someone sink at the very end wouldn't work for that, in my opinion. Also different from actual Midway, this time they know the enemy known their codes so they even using a codename so they do'nt know where they're attacking.
Its too bad we never get to see the Admirals thoughts, that would probably answer a lot of questions, like

- Why the hell does he write with an ink barrel and a feather?
- Why doesn't he have a telephone or any other modern equipment on the base (Like an AA defense )
- Why didn't he think back to midway when he found out about the codes?

All we can really say is that the abyssals are likely not the USN forces, since the intro scene makes t sound like a global problem.

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I wonder what happened to the admiral. Did he just die? If he didn't, why didn't he just came back? I mean he was in the base, it's not like an air attack would thrown him kilometers away without killing him. I hope they don't pretend to make him really be the player, where what we saw is happening inside the game and he just got some internet problems and can't connect...[/QUOTE]

'Sorry I slept in and suddenly there was this fairy apologizing to a black cat, so I couldn't get back! But its ok now, the cat vanished.'

I guess the Wo Flagship has some kind of plan with him and abducted him.

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I liked how Kaga-san kept giving Fubuki new chances to prove herself though clearly she was out of her league to defend herself against multiple planes yet protect somebody else. But man, I can't get used to this serious Akagi given how much fandom fun Akagi I have seen those past weeks. XD
Honestly, I doubt Kaga was actually against Fubuki becoming her escort.
Theoretically Fubuki already escorted Kaga so she should know that Fubuki can actually do it. (Note that in this case being Akagi's escort also means being Kaga's)

Her being against it was just Kaga's being a tsundere again.

Either something like that or the story connects worse than just the 'Fubuki-drama' issue :/
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Old 2015-03-11, 15:51   Link #32
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Which is why I'm not so sure if she is even KaiNi yet.
She pretty much has the same equipment as her Kai variant + an AA fire detector.
The equipment layout is exactly the same as in her Kai Ni art. Moreover, only Hatsushimo Kai Ni and Fubuki Kai Ni have a fire director as stock equipment.

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Honestly, I doubt Kaga was actually against Fubuki becoming her escort.
Theoretically Fubuki already escorted Kaga so she should know that Fubuki can actually do it. (Note that in this case being Akagi's escort also means being Kaga's)

Her being against it was just Kaga's being a tsundere again

Either something like that or the story connects worse than just the 'Fubuki-drama' issue :/
Kaga was well justified in her demand of a test for Fubuki and it had nothing to do with her being tsundere. Fubuki has never done anti-air combat before. It would be a massive risk sending in an unproven destroyer as escort for a valuable fleet carrier without knowing whether she could handle the upcoming carrier battle.
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I guess the Wo Flagship has some kind of plan with him and abducted him.
How could they abduct him, though? He was on land. They attacked from far away with the planes. I don't think those planes can carry a person.

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Honestly, I doubt Kaga was actually against Fubuki becoming her escort.
Theoretically Fubuki already escorted Kaga so she should know that Fubuki can actually do it. (Note that in this case being Akagi's escort also means being Kaga's)

Her being against it was just Kaga's being a tsundere again.

Either something like that or the story connects worse than just the 'Fubuki-drama' issue :/
From the scene after where Akagi and Kaga is talking with Nagato, it does seems like Kaga was acting to push Fubuki over her limit to see if she would finally remodel.
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The equipment layout is exactly the same as in her Kai Ni art. Moreover, only Hatsushimo Kai Ni and Fubuki Kai Ni have a fire director as stock equipment.
Her uniform aside, I see no diffference between her boiler before and after the upgrade, moreover she still has the lookout post. - Might be the absence of zoom shots of it though.
Both her boiler and her lookout remain pretty much the same, and her torpedoes don't realyl look different either.

Its a wierd mix out of both arts, and could as well be a Kai remodel with some equipment change. - Even Fubuki questions it.

The games Kai art is just the developers being too busy to update it for the changed equipment in the first place.

As for the AA detector being unbuildable - that wouldn't even make sense from an Anime PoV, since she got one right on her wrist.


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Kaga was well justified in her demand of a test for Fubuki and it had nothing to do with her being tsundere. Fubuki has never done anti-air combat before. It would be a massive risk sending in an unproven destroyer as escort for a valuable fleet carrier without knowing whether she could handle the upcoming carrier battle.
If Kaga actually meant business she would have just let her planes fly too high.
In fact Kaga made sure she wouldn't give up by saying 'Again' over and over instead of 'Thats all I'm dissapointed go screw yourself' which she would have done if she was seriously against it.

If Kaga had actually meant it as a test Fubuki would have failed right after the first hit.

It is really not that much different than her general behavior towards Zuikaku.

Its just Kaga's way of saying 'let me help you with that remodel', much like she just bomb killed Zuikaku's target.

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How could they abduct him, though? He was on land. They attacked from far away with the planes. I don't think those planes can carry a person.
Wo and her escorts were on the move when she launched the planes, theoretically she could have gone on land.

Yamato already did it a few episodes ago (seriously why did they leave her at the base...), and Yuudachi as well as Fuubuki did it in EP 9 and 10.


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From the scene after where Akagi and Kaga is talking with Nagato, it does seems like Kaga was acting to push Fubuki over her limit to see if she would finally remodel.
That too, almost forgot about that.

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I just hope 'Full might of the combined fleet' means we will get to see Yamato again and finally get to see Nagato and Mutsu on the water.

Otherwise I got to wonder why they included the rigging in their character arts in the first place :/
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Old 2015-03-11, 16:32   Link #35
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If Kaga actually meant business she would have just let her planes fly too high.
In fact Kaga made sure she wouldn't give up by saying 'Again' over and over instead of 'Thats all I'm dissapointed go screw yourself' which she would have done if she was seriously against it.

If Kaga had actually meant it as a test Fubuki would have failed right after the first hit.
Of course Kaga wasn't out there to make Fubuki fail. That doesn't mean that she wasn't testing and drawing out her abilities. If Fubuki had in failed in the end, given up and not gotten the remodel, she wouldn't have been chosen as Akagi's escort, plain and simple.

Besides, Akagi and Kaga's planes didn't really fly lower than the Abyssal planes during their attacks in prior episodes.
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Old 2015-03-11, 16:36   Link #36
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I'm almost certain the Admiral was killed rather than abducted. The ships that came back later might be told something else to keep their spirits up, but the description given to Fubuki sounds like he stayed at his post even as the building was destroyed. The Empty Chair being a sign of loss without showing a body.

(as for Kaga, she seemed satified and lowered her bow when Fubuki seemed done. It was Akagi that pushed for one more time. Kaga seemed surprised by Akagi as well, showing some emotion which Kaga rarely does.)
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Old 2015-03-11, 16:55   Link #37
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Kaga: PvP with me, now.

Fubuki vs Kaga Akagi.
Round one: Fail. Fubuki gets 100 EXP
Round two: Fail. Fubuki gets 100 EXP
Final round: Success. Fubuki gets 2000 EXP. Fubuki leveled up to 20!
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Old 2015-03-11, 17:15   Link #38
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I guess I'll use other subs for this episode, since CR massively failed. Who the heck is this red-eyed person? Also the grammar mistakes at 07:30 and 10:15 annoyed me a lot.

As for the episode itself, most was already said.
- Extremely random marriage scene, although Fubuki in a wedding dress is cute.
- Fubuki going full retard and almost sank.
- The sister ship of Fubuki's closest friend was sunk. Yet she acts like it's no big deal that the very same thing almost happened to her.
- RIP Akagi. Even if Fubuki managed to shoot down all the planes she only barely did so after several tries. If she performs like that in a real battle she will definitely fail.
- Why was there a Ooi/KTKM scene?

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Old 2015-03-11, 17:18   Link #39
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The upgrade should help. If she can do that with guns that are terrible for AA work, she should do great with really good AA guns.
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Next episode preview provoked a torrent of cursing from me.
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