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Old 2015-03-27, 04:19   Link #101
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I think not showing the admiral is prob the best way to go as if it's an old guy, part of the viewers would go "ewwww" those girls are obsessed over that old fart. If it's a a kid, then it's "ewwww" those girls are obsessed over a kid and the fact that it's a kid would just take away the realism. If it's a teen, then it's "oh they are mimicking Arpeggio of Blue Steel".
You can't please everyone, and while there's nothing wrong about a nebulous admiral in theory, given their execution here it's apparent that having a faceless admiral in this case was a poor decision since they didn't or couldn't capitalize on said premise properly.

As mentioned above, there have been successful cases of player representatives being given definitive appearances and characters as in the case of The Idolm@ster animes. No matter what form you put the Admiral in, as long as they're portrayed to be a competent, balanced character most people shouldn't have a problem with him/her.
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Old 2015-03-27, 06:34   Link #102
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I'm probably in the minority here, but I'd like a first person, subtitled admiral like the producer in the first episode of Idolm@aster. I thought that was a really original swing for an anime to take, and while the actual producer was a pretty good character, I would not have minded had the rest of the series continued in that trend.

As for the rest of the next season... well, as an anime only viewer, I join the chorus who'd like a different MC. I found Fubuki extremely bland and unengaging, like she was a checkbox of anime heroine must-haves. Even the characters that were little beyond their stereotypes were more engaging to me simply for being characters in their own right. Heck, maybe focus on an entirely different cast. Plenty of shipgirls that haven't even shown yet.

I'd also like if they find a better way to level the drama versus the slice of life. One moment the war is all fun and games, the next it's deadly serious mortal conflict where everyone almost dies. Even Strike Witches managed to find a better balance in this, and that's the show with girls fighting aliens in their underwear!
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Old 2015-03-27, 14:33   Link #103
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Fubuki was chosen as MC because her bland character and personality can go along with any character in the fleet. That said, I also want new MC. (6desdiv is prefered)

My idea for SS2

- Reboot it
- Keep the SS1 artstyle
- Use less CG in battle
- Have visible admiral and make him MC
- MC is one of many admirals at the base. He will command a set of ship girls while other admirals command the rest. This doesn't limit ship girls under other admiral command to join his fleet from time to time in a joint operation or a special operation.
- Battle should be more serious and complicated and show more tactic.
- Abysmals should be smarter and talkable and they should have a clear goal of what they are trying to do (just made up the reasons for anime)
- Abysmals should have their own big base somewhere AND has the EVIL Abysmals admiral as boss
- There shouldn't be any reference to the real history
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Old 2015-03-27, 15:17   Link #104
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My idea for SS2

- Reboot it
- MC is one of many admirals at the base. He will command a set of ship girls while other admirals command the rest. This doesn't limit ship girls under other admiral command to join his fleet from time to time in a joint operation or a special operation.
I also prefer a reboot with Admiral as MC rather than keep going with-- an invisible leader (It's hard to believe he's actually exist with Nagato and Mutsu doing his task).

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The biggest minus point of Kancolle for me is the lack of Admiral; I don't mind with Fubuki as the main girl, it's just-- something is missing without Admiral.
This series could be much better with a competent Admiral as a MC (IMHO), or maybe a kuso-teitoku one if you're aiming for comedy route as reboot theme.



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Old 2015-03-27, 17:24   Link #105
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Less CG is a lofty goal to strive for, but less CG also risks a decrease in overall animation quality. One of the advantages of CG is that once created, a model can be reduced over and over, while traditional animation has to be drawn from scratch almost every single time.

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Old 2015-03-27, 22:16   Link #106
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Less CG is a lofty goal to strive for, but less CG also risks a decrease in overall animation quality. One of the advantages of CG is that once created, a model can be reduced over and over, while traditional animation has to be drawn from scratch almost every single time.
I only wish they'll make the CG's quality proportionate to the way they use it. For the most part, CG in Japan is a cost saving measure and they really do not stand up to close scrutiny. So if you use lots of CGs, make them the long shots.

I don't really mind who they use as MC, but it would be nice if they actually keep the MC's feats in-line with their class and setup. Ep12 for all its weaknesses actually solved a beef I had with this anime about Fubuki being too dominant at everyone elses' expense. Ironically, by swamping the screen with characters, Fubuki's part was reduced to a "MC but a destroyer-ish level". It felt natural for the first time in some time.

I wish they can do that without needing to resort to such crudity.
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Old 2015-03-27, 23:53   Link #107
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That's the thing, Idolm@ster showed at two occasion that it can be done. And in the case of Cinderella Girls, he even enjoyed a surprising popularity. I don't think Japan, the primary target audience, would mind if he looked like generic LN protag as long as he shows that he have a disctinct personality, cares about his girls (and troll Akebono wwww) and have a good seiyuu to boot.
This so much.


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It would be fun if Akagi turns into a manju when defeated instead of a toy ship.
Or Naka turning into....
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Old 2015-03-29, 06:58   Link #108
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Third day since It released and the Bluray still rank 1st on the chart
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Old 2015-03-29, 11:05   Link #109
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I think the multiple Admiral is the best option, as a)it will allow dj room to thrive, which what made Kancolle popular in the first place, and b) they can keep the Admiral personality unique so her/his interaction with the Kanmusu can become the main point. Not to mention you will have a relatively small casts to explore more on, and you can call in more reinforcement for bigger development.

There are several dj with Admiral and Plasma-chan as main heroine out there, and they were done excellently

Definitely should ditch the real history event thingy. Only keep it as reference or PTSD
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Old 2015-03-31, 08:21   Link #110
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Even if they don't, they should at least apply what makes it successful to the next season at least =3

Spoiler for In case of spoilers =3:


Imho, story-telling abilities aside, the KanColle anime is best left to someone who is both a fan (and will thus be more motivated to make it a success) and knows how to apply historical facts in a flexible manner, as is the case with the Cranes LN. Methinks S1 is a pretty good example where the writer either doesn't know what to do with the ships' past and just follows history as it ran, or is not bothered to explore the possibilities.
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Old 2015-03-31, 13:17   Link #111
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whats this i heard about a possible change in MC in s2? when Sumire Uesaka was interviewed in comiket special 6
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