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View Poll Results: F/SN UBW TV - Episode 15 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 23 | 43.40% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 14 | 26.42% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 12 | 22.64% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 3.77% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 1.89% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.89% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2015-04-18, 16:56 | Link #43 |
Bash'a no falor talah
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bro, she dies in Heaven's feel too, and even fate route, despite her living throughout the series, after the war she's only got a year or two left to live seeing how her body was designed to be the best master and the strain would kill her. (notice how her growth is completely stunted?)
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2015-04-18, 17:00 | Link #44 |
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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Well she doesn't die per se in Fate, but presuming the limitations of her Homunculi body she would die rather young. Zero however suggests that she is part human as Kiritsugu's offspring so that might ot necessarily apply.
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2015-04-18, 17:26 | Link #45 | |
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Spoiler for Heaven's Feel route:
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2015-04-18, 19:15 | Link #52 |
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Join Date: Aug 2013
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Dam that was a sad episode, got to give Ufotable a round of applause for this episode it was well done. All the new scene just made me feel even sadder for Illya I knew she was going to die but it just sad to see how she suffered and all the hardship she went through. The battle was not the most amazing one but the episode wasn't really trying to do that, it was main focusing on Illya. Overall this was properly once of best episode so far.
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2015-04-18, 20:50 | Link #53 |
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Oh my god that was so beautiful. I am in pain. And that ending song was really beautiful.
Question, though: She saw the corrupted irisviel. I know that the Homunculuses of Einzbern can communicate with each other even beyond death, but I thought that Irisviel was 'cleansed' after death. Is she simply still corrupted by the grail? And will be for all eternity? That's kind of sad. |
2015-04-18, 22:07 | Link #54 | |
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I guess its Ufotable's fault for faithfully following the VN to this degree. Honestly they should have just done an original route for the anime. |
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2015-04-18, 22:15 | Link #56 |
Yorokobe, (Insert name)
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Reminder that material is cut due to TV restrictions~
https://twitter.com/hikaruufo/status/589450315826536449 I haven't watched the ep yet~ Yeah, the viewing order is Zero -> UBW -> HF. Zero is a literal prologue here, it's something you need to see before FSN but not something FSN is tied down to other than some narrative plotlines and whatnot.
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2015-04-18, 22:18 | Link #57 | |
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As to 'corrupted Irisviel,' I'm not 100% sure that's really Iri at all. The Einzbern homunculi have a kind of genetic memory thing going on, so she could communicate with a sort of Irisviel, but it shouldn't have any connection to the real living one (or rather, real one that actually lived). I am much more apt to believe that either one of the following two scenarios happened: 1) Acht is responsible for the hallucinations, in an attempt to brainwash Illya so she'll be a good little puppet master. 2) The corrupted Grail is messing with her, bringing her subconscious hate/fear to the surface, and Iri is just the form that the hallucinations happen to take. That being said, the only time in the original source material we saw any of the genetic memory stuff was in Heaven's Feel, and that was a very different situation. So there is a large possibility this is just a new development that was previously unattested to. Also the possibility that Iri was somehow subsumed into the Grail, and thus its kind of a mix of corrupted Iri and corrupted Grail that are bothering the poor girl. As far as the actual question, I was under the impression that Irisviel was annihilated in F/Z, thus no longer corrupted because she no longer exists. If she somehow managed to hold on though, she would almost definitely be corrupted. The only one who has shown to have any capability of releasing the corruption is sort of F/SN Caster, and she was obviously no where to be seen when Iri's situation was going down. |
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2015-04-18, 22:27 | Link #59 |
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Apparently (though her Fate route death was explained in either the final Tiger Dojo (for getting all of them) or side material, forget which... not part of the route proper).
No they didn't. Zero!Berserker was a supposed perfect counter and never got Gilgamesh to go any tougher than he did against this Berserker. Rider literally charged in a straight line, never pressuring Gil, and got strung up my Enkidu at the last second. Saber staggered at him and got axed a question. Heracles at least forced a massive use of GoB that we've never seen before, plus broke Enkidu. |
2015-04-18, 22:33 | Link #60 |
Yorokobe, (Insert name)
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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I took a SMALL PEEK at the very beginning...
Yeah, Gil deduced that he needs to step up his game not to get skewered by Berserker so comparing abitseriousGil against didyoujusttouchmuhtreasuresGil and IhaveeverythingincontrolGil isn't an apt comparison. It's like comparing an Army Corporal vs a child and Army Corporal vs a teen. Both would be wiped out easily, it's just that Corporal puts a bit more effort against the teen. Replace Army Corporal with Gil, child with Saber and Rider, and teen with Berserker.
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