2013-06-05, 20:30 | Link #3341 |
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Oh yeah, now I remember something. When training with Urahara, Ichigo became a Shinigami by finding Zangetsu within his soul. He managed to find it since according to Ishida the Shinigami's energy was red. How will Zangetsu Bach explain that?
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2013-06-05, 20:48 | Link #3345 |
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Zangetsu Still remain on within Ichigo or so after Oetsu forge the zanpakuto zangetsu Ichigo chase it?
and if it will cause zangetsu is probably Ichigo use again if power is sure but I think that Ichigo can not suporter to keep him after this revelation Zangetsu as Ichigo hate Ywach ..... am I right?
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2013-06-05, 22:39 | Link #3348 | |
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I mean the whole point of that exercise was for Ichigo to find the shinigami powers in his soul. In hindsight it didn't actually make any sense for his shinigami powers to already be roaming around and talking to him if the whole reason he went there was to unlock them. That was also the only time Ichigo went into his soul without meeting Zangetsu, probably because he was still in his sword form. Still, it creates more questions than it answers. |
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2013-06-06, 00:26 | Link #3350 | |
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2013-06-06, 00:31 | Link #3351 | |
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Isshin said his powers were sealing "white" up until the moment that his hollow powers started to awaken. The first major indication of this was when Hichigo appeared during the Byakuya fight, which was after the sword spirit thing. So White was still sealed then. |
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2013-06-06, 04:10 | Link #3352 |
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Frankly I gave up taking any of Kubo's plot twists or anything else seriously years and years ago. I'm only reading now because I just wana see it through till the end and what not. So aside from the twist which I thought was like all his other twists, meh, fine, next chapter.
What I loved though was the blonde twintail girl. She's exactly my type. I better get to see more of her.
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2013-06-06, 09:11 | Link #3354 |
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It makes perfect sense. I'm not sure where all the rage comes from (well, some people will never be happy I guess). This ties together a lot of stuff from years past that didn't quite make sense. With this arc and this particular revelation, it all falls into place. The only question left is "what" Zangetsu is. Is he just a reflection, a piece of the past stuck in Ichigo's soul? Is he symbolic of the Quincy power? Is he a missing piece that Juha needs/wants back? Hollow Ichigo knew what he was, so all that's left is explaining it to the reader. I'm guessing we'll get another Inner World scene when the sword is complete to answer the final questions.
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2013-06-06, 09:25 | Link #3355 | |
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2013-06-06, 09:57 | Link #3356 | |
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Had things been more focused: shorter, more decisive battles, a smaller more focused cast, more time spent on plot than empty panels, a more balanced and understandable power system, and less plot armor.....I don't think as much criticism would exist. The anime didn't help either, with some awful fillers and poorly written original characters. No one liked the Mod Souls. And even with Ichigo's past finally being revealed, there is still so much left that isn't resolved in the rest of the story, and some of it will probably never be explained....or simply retconned into or out of the story if it is touched. But for me personally, I'm just along for the ride. Bleach isn't and never pretended to be something deep or complex, it's just a fighting manga with some neat concepts. So some of the plot isn't told very well, or the dialogue kinda stinks. Those issues plague a lot of stories, even ones people hold up very high, like Dragonball. I'd rather just enjoy it for what it is, than lament what it isn't. It's not worth getting so angry as such a trivial thing in life.
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2013-06-06, 10:07 | Link #3357 |
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It's worth getting angry over. I mean no one's making a vendetta out for the author but don't go bringing your own philosophical merits to negate other people being angry / disliking what this series has turned into. Truthfully I don't see that as a valid point for your own actions on it either.
And yes, if they've stuck around this long none of this nonsense should be surprising and it's of their own accord to deal with it all (even with reasons you listed, being pushed by the publisher for example) that doesn't one shouldn't keep from getting angry over it. Hell, I think letting out steam by getting angry over it is healthier lol. :P
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2013-06-06, 10:59 | Link #3358 | |
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2013-06-06, 11:26 | Link #3359 | ||
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Who said I'm negating anything? I offered my thoughts on why people didn't like it. I never said people had to agree with it, and clearly you don't. But you know what does get tiring? The same people who show up for what is now years saying the same thing: "Oh, new chapter/episode, yup it's still shit and you should all feel bad for liking it." Over, and over, and over again. You say it's venting? I say go find a pillow and scream in it. Spare the rest of us the fury of an old man yelling at a cloud. I have no problem with people not liking things. I've vented about stuff, Bleach included, in the past. But I swear some people make it a hobby to continue to read/watch something they clearly don't enjoy just to let everyone else know how much they don't enjoy it. It's annoying to say the least. It's really not healthy to have so much anger about something so trivial for so long. There are more important things in life that deserve such passion. Quote:
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/2...0452059441.jpg It doesn't "negate" or "overly complicate" anything: 1. Aizen knew that Ichigo's Hollow side came from his experiments. He also knew Ichigo's life because he was monitoring his progress the whole time. 2. Urahara knew that Ichigo was a mixed breed because he was there when it happened and knew how it worked due to his own involvement with Hollowfication. 3. The CC and SS are idiots, but who ever argued they weren't? Even the story itself highlights their incompetence from time to time. In many cases, even when they had competence, they undid it with arrogance and ignorance/indifference. You claim it's horrible writing to have him have all these powers, but wouldn't it be equally horrible if he was able to mimic abilities? Wouldn't that be even more hax, on the level of Aizen's hypnosis? It's hilarious you mention Heroes, which became incredibly convoluted and ridiculous as the story progressed. They couldn't even be bothered to conclude it, as the show was cancelled.
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2013-06-06, 11:33 | Link #3360 |
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Can somebody explain me this....how in the world did the 1000 year younger version of Yhwach get into the soul of Ichigo and manifest himself as ichigo's zanpaktou?
While "Whitey" ...was Ichigo's original Zanpaktou.
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