(L+CR) Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai: Tensai-tachi no Renai Zunousen

[4th Dimension]

Yeah, no. I actually reread some of the early chapters and they definitelly still make me laugh. Unlike that first episode at best got me to smirk.

Timing is part of the issue. Kaguya doesn't have the frantic feeling like other comedies. It pretty much relies on setting up a situation where those two seriously are trying to outmsart one another, which should be given FULL weight of two immense intelects battling and THEN when they are about to reach the creshendo... you throw a PIE (Fujiwara) into their faces (plans). So even though the anime pretty much does all they do, in the manga it really felt like pretty much every one of their encounter was a series of true back and forths. Here? Not so much, since it all kinda speeds by.

And secondly as Tactics says. The art of the manga adds a LOT. The mangaka did outright horror before for some reason deciding to do a romantic comedy. And as such his artstyle adds a lot. ESPECIALLY to the mental battles and even more to that to the moments of shock or utter loathing. Because those seem taken from some actual horror Manga. So when Kaguya looks down on Fujiwara, you could totally transplant her into a horror manga and have her take Fujiwara's head while laughing and it wouldn't feel out of place. Same with her HOW CUTE moments. Just thinking of it SCARES out of his wits President.

Hell, it's almost a meeme at this point to get a bunch of images from the manga (you don't have to try much to do so) and then to show them to people who'll then assume it's a horror manga.

It's why I say this adaptation is okay, but hasn't so far truly got Kaguya.

[James Rye]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

There are a few bits where Shirogane gets compared to a dog, and Kaguya to a cat.

And Fujiwara to a Holstein cow. xD

[RRW]

Originally Posted by 4th Dimension

Yeah, no. I actually reread some of the early chapters and they definitelly still make me laugh. Unlike that first episode at best got me to smirk.

Timing is part of the issue. Kaguya doesn't have the frantic feeling like other comedies. It pretty much relies on setting up a situation where those two seriously are trying to outmsart one another, which should be given FULL weight of two immense intelects battling and THEN when they are about to reach the creshendo... you throw a PIE (Fujiwara) into their faces (plans). So even though the anime pretty much does all they do, in the manga it really felt like pretty much every one of their encounter was a series of true back and forths. Here? Not so much, since it all kinda speeds by.

And secondly as Tactics says. The art of the manga adds a LOT. The mangaka did outright horror before for some reason deciding to do a romantic comedy. And as such his artstyle adds a lot. ESPECIALLY to the mental battles and even more to that to the moments of shock or utter loathing. Because those seem taken from some actual horror Manga. So when Kaguya looks down on Fujiwara, you could totally transplant her into a horror manga and have her take Fujiwara's head while laughing and it wouldn't feel out of place. Same with her HOW CUTE moments. Just thinking of it SCARES out of his wits President.

Hell, it's almost a meeme at this point to get a bunch of images from the manga (you don't have to try much to do so) and then to show them to people who'll then assume it's a horror manga.

It's why I say this adaptation is okay, but hasn't so far truly got Kaguya.

Well I just want to point out that while art is subjective. As far as "mind game" illustration goes. IMO Anime does it better with the tension. You can easily feel the difference when you comparing movie ticket arc. Anime have advantage of using sound and camera movement and the director use those technique in enhancing mind game quite well. IMO anime "how cute" have more impact than manga "how cute". Also those image that you use is mostly form other chapter .

I admit the anime have issue with paving and that can cut some of the narration to free up some time.

[RRW]

https://streamable.com/h7fyw

Kaguya ED

[Stark700]

Episode 2

Chika's cuteness just never ceases to amuse me. Too adorable.

Mind games continue this episode and I find it pretty entertaining. In particular, there's Kaguya's reactions and chemistry between the main cast. Shirogane also got a smartphone! I like his way of thinking of the modern generation about socializing.

Seems we got the inner thoughts from chapter 7 too. Pretty amusing scenarios for the imaginations. This show just keeps on giving. The VA of the main characters really work out for this show.

[RRW]

For anime Watcher

Re-introduction happens it stay true with the source since the manga change magazine. It didn't happens in other chapter.

Episode 3 will animate 14,8,9

[Kanon]

Thus begins the legend of the monster virgin. Amazing that his advice actually worked. Kabedon never fails, I guess
Despite the lack of Fujiwara in that chapter, that was the funniest of the episode. Kaguya's reactions were gold. God thing Miyuki noticed her in time, this allowed him to score some major points instead of totally screwing himself over.

Originally Posted by RRW

For anime Watcher

Re-introduction happens it stay true with the source since the manga change magazine. It didn't happens in other chapter.

Episode 3 will animate 14,8,9

They really was no need to keep it though. It added nothing and was just a waste of time.

[RRW]

Originally Posted by Kanon

They really was no need to keep it though. It added nothing and was just a waste of time.

I agree with you but they did give us comparisons of pres design before and after magazine switch which show how much respect they have with source material

[felix]

Originally Posted by RRW

I agree with you but they did give us comparisons of pres design before and after magazine switch so it show how much respect they have with source material

I don't know how to feel about this (misplaced) dedication.

[Wandering Soul]

Prez giving love advice was always one of my favorite of the earlier chapters. It feels good to see it be done justice by the anime.

Originally Posted by RRW

I agree with you but they did give us comparisons of pres design before and after magazine switch which show how much respect they have with source material

I guess if nothing else, no one can question the staff's passion.

[Anh_Minh]

The OP sounded catchier on second listen.

Also, in the ED, Hayasaca's such a... bro? Sis? Staying behind to cover Kaguya's escape.

[FlareKnight]

They have some great dedication to this show no doubt. The ED was cute and told a nice little story within Kaguya's dream. Also enjoying the OP the more times I watch/listen to it.

It is just a fun show. The characters are great, likable, and the comedy works for me.

[James Rye]

I liked how Ishigami was some sort of depressed spirit in the mountain imaginations. xD
Leave it to Fujiwara to make Shirogane and Kaguya feel like their intense sea vs mountain battle was wasted for nothing.^^
Also poor Maki, first episode she's in and she is already in tears. Lets hope they leave out the gags from the manga else this won't be the last time we see her crying about her crush going out with her best friend.

Also have to say I am impressed the anime even took the manga art change into consideration. XDDD

Spoiler for Example:

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Also, in the ED, Hayasaca's such a... bro? Sis? Staying behind to cover Kaguya's escape.

She's not so different in real life.

[Master_Yoma]

So the battle of the cell phones and sea vs the mountains

[Frontier]

"It'd be like that's what I was thinking!" AKA that was exactly what you were thinking, Kaguya .

Curses, foiled by a flip phone .

She's got nothing on Chika's "tanks," but Kaguya in that red bikini still looked pretty good. Both girls look great in swimsuits .

Ishigami cameo for the win .

With her performance as Kaguya, I feel like Aoi Kaga is going to be a seiyuu to watch moving forward. She has some incredible and dynamic range, and she voices Kaguya and all her different facets and dialogue so well .

Shirogane's love advice was as hilarious as I remembered it being, especially with Kaguya's reactions. The most hilarious part is that all his suggestions and ideas were actually accurate .

So was that like a through-the-wall Kabedon? It's super effective .

The ending was pretty nice, both with very appropriate music and some nice visuals for Kaguya's dream .

[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for ep2:

Dear staff, people that watch ani...
No, the memory of people in general do last longer than a week. Thank you for repeating the same thing from episode 1 in episode 2 for the people with poor memory.

...*eyeroll*
Or maybe they forgot they already did it once.

[frodonk]

I'm sold. That was really nice.

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler for ep2:

Dear staff, people that watch ani...
No, the memory of people in general do last longer than a week. Thank you for repeating the same thing from episode 1 in episode 2 for the people with poor memory.

...*eyeroll*
Or maybe they forgot they already did it once.

According to a commenter at LiA, that 4 minute recap was from that chapter in the manga, which was the first after the series switched magazines, and they didn't bother to come up with any new material to fill the time. It explains why it exists but it still sucks that the anime did that.

At least they changed the ridiculous name issue in the subs.

[Ultragunner]

I will hold my breath for ep 3 about the intro.

there is no guarantee that they would stop repeating it

EDIT: I still have PTSD from Attack on Titan season 1, such tedious recap on every episode