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DevilHighDxD · 2013-06-24, 18:40

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Originally Posted by wavehawk

Waging war on the creator, however, would need something a bit more nasty...

Will 30000 XG-70 Susanoo and 5000 XG-70b Susanoo IV be enough? Or something in line of Gundam (00 series)?

I so wanted one day that human will make the Creator what is it feel like to be a human when beta are attacking(killing, eating and raping). Despaired and horrified, revenge will be delicious for humanity (not raping and eating them but killing them).

issuzark · 2013-06-24, 18:46

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Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

Will 30000 XG-70 Susanoo and 5000 XG-70b Susanoo IV be enough? Or something in line of Gundam (00 series)?

Replace A-10's and A-6's with Heavyarms Custom and Calamity Gundam.

Replace Susanoo with Big Zams and Neue Ziels and you're good to go.

wavehawk · 2013-06-24, 18:52

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I so wanted one day that human will make the Creator what is it feel like to be a human when beta are attacking(killing, eating and raping). Despaired and horrified, revenge will be delicious for humanity (not raping and eating them but killing them).

- You're thinking of the creator as if he was human or is capable of human feelings. That might not work. If the creator can't comprehend human existence (or any organic existence), he can't comprehend human emotions.

Also, you're making the same fatal mistake most people make when regarding aliens. You're assuming they have similar sensibilties and values as humans do. They most likely don't. They may not even have an animal's sense of values or requirements. They may not be able to comprehend fear or loss.

DevilHighDxD · 2013-06-24, 19:14

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Originally Posted by wavehawk

- You're thinking of the creator as if he was human or is capable of human feelings. That might not work. If the creator can't comprehend human existence (or any organic existence), he can't comprehend human emotions.

Also, you're making the same fatal mistake most people make when regarding aliens. You're assuming they have similar sensibilties and values as humans do. They most likely don't. They may not even have an animal's sense of values or requirements. They may not be able to comprehend fear or loss.

Well Creator IS a living being after, just a different kind compared to human. If they have intelligent than they will have feeling and emotion. For one thing we know, Creator DO care about survival as they have beta collecting and sending them the resource. Maybe not in term of human of feeling and emotion but in term of their own as we get to know more about them. But warring them will be in a long time......

wavehawk · 2013-06-24, 19:15

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Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

If they have intelligent than they will have feeling and emotion.

No they don't. You're still thinking of them as human and able to be communicated with. Ants can't talk to people to stop stepping on them. and even if they could, people would still step on them.

I don't think the Creators are just Silicon-based humans. This isn't Star Trek or Star Wars where aliens are humanoids we can talk to. The creators don't think of organic matter as anything more than nonliving tools.

What would you do if your iPod talked back to you? You'd send it to the shop to get repaired. Some intelligent people would try to strike up a conversation and actually investigate it but the majority of ordinary human beings would find the concept too alien and uncomfortable and just say "This machine isn't working right. Destroy it." The Creaotr might have similar ideas---or may not even comprehend why humans mind being annihalated.

DevilHighDxD · 2013-06-24, 19:25

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Ants can't talk to people to stop stepping on them. and even if they could, people would still step on them.

Ha, you certainly is describing what human are to them.

LystAP · 2013-06-24, 21:40

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No they don't. You're still thinking of them as human and able to be communicated with. Ants can't talk to people to stop stepping on them. and even if they could, people would still step on them.

I don't think the Creators are just Silicon-based humans. This isn't Star Trek or Star Wars where aliens are humanoids we can talk to. The creators don't think of organic matter as anything more than nonliving tools.

What would you do if your iPod talked back to you? You'd send it to the shop to get repaired. Some intelligent people would try to strike up a conversation and actually investigate it but the majority of ordinary human beings would find the concept too alien and uncomfortable and just say "This machine isn't working right. Destroy it." The Creaotr might have similar ideas---or may not even comprehend why humans mind being annihalated.

Remember what the BETA are, and how they perceive humanity. They think there is no such thing as a Carbon-based life form, and have instead compared humanity with the closest thing they can comprehend, as fellow bio-machines ("an existence compatible with that of the superior existence" is the exact quote if I recall).

They think we're fellow robots, and the creators could also very likely perceive us as not only robots, but a species of "rogue AI". There is danger in even acknowledging humanity as a sentient species, because it also threatens to make the BETA question their own status as the creator's tools. The big block keeping the BETA from going rogue may be the rule that there are no carbon-based lifeforms, and as long as that rule applies, the BETA wouldn't question their own existence, nor would the creators have to question the "technological" foundations of their own society.

issuzark · 2013-06-25, 19:47

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This, this. Ouch.

G147 · 2013-06-25, 19:52

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This, this. Ouch.

Is this official?

issuzark · 2013-06-25, 19:59

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Is this official?

See the copyright down there? Yes it is.

DevilHighDxD · 2013-06-25, 20:02

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This, this. Ouch.

Making love, What so wrong with that?

maxxus0923 · 2013-06-25, 20:02

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This, this. Ouch.

tell me who are this 2... because i think my eyes are failing me

G147 · 2013-06-25, 20:03

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See the copyright down there? Yes it is.

Okay thanks, can i know one ting, where did you find this?

issuzark · 2013-06-25, 20:22

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Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

Making love, What so wrong with that?

Nothing, just my heart aching for a while there.

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tell me who are this 2... because i think my eyes are failing me

Hibiki and Yuzuka.

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Okay thanks, can i know one ting, where did you find this?

http://takarajima.qrestnet.co.jp/pro...ducts_id=71017 here.

G147 · 2013-06-25, 20:28

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http://takarajima.qrestnet.co.jp/pro...ducts_id=71017 here.

Thanks for the link, since it wasn't on the official site, so i was wondering where it came from.

DevilHighDxD · 2013-06-25, 20:32

Like Cryska, she probably the next to go... I won't care much if Age give their protagonists each a "Extra" treatment like Takeru but with Age being Age 'sigh'....

Wild Goose · 2013-06-25, 21:21

Medical scrubs she's wearing.

Yuzuka is injured and dying, perhaps.

That said if Hibiki actually gets it on with Yuzuka, it's about damn time.

...and now they've tripped their death flags. -_-

LystAP · 2013-06-25, 23:02

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Medical scrubs she's wearing.

Yuzuka is injured and dying, perhaps.

That said if Hibiki actually gets it on with Yuzuka, it's about damn time.

...and now they've tripped their death flags. -_-

Isn't fact that TDA will have a sad ending kind of given.

Hope is in Alternative, unfortunately not for the likes of these poor souls in the Unlimited-verse.

DevilHighDxD · 2013-06-25, 23:13

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Isn't fact that TDA will have a sad ending kind of given.

Hope is in Alternative, unfortunately not for the likes of these poor souls in the Unlimited-verse.

Hope is in Alternative? Whenever Age feel like it, they can just drop one or more superiors down to Earth to screw us human

wavehawk · 2013-06-26, 02:08

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Making love, What so wrong with that?

- Zark's unhappy because this means Yuzukachose Hibiki over him...and that she's the next on the death list.

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