2012-02-27, 15:54 | Link #2121 | |
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Keikaku doori... for Mikono.
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2012-02-27, 16:03 | Link #2122 |
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This is quite a good episode. I was waiting for Andy's chance! I love their puns on holes and filling them up! It is a great combination; Andy and Mix. Amata and Mikono is all the way for me but, I feel kinda sad for Zessica
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2012-02-27, 16:10 | Link #2125 | ||
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*sigh* Am I the only one here who actually likes both Amata and Mikono, thought that scene was cute and didn't suspect any ulterior motives on anyone's part? (I'm tired of badass macho man heroes and badass amazon heroines - cute, sweet girls banzai!) Oh well.
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*Funny thing that gets lost in translation is that while the pronounciation is the same as "fallen angels" the "angel"/"tenshi" part is not written as the usual "messenger/servant of heaven" (天使) but more like "wings of heaven" (天翅) or something along those lines (I don't really know how to phrase it in English), so it's not really religious but more like... dunno, "winged beings in the sky"? or something like that. I've always wondered why they're "fallen"... I mean, even the Angels referred to themselves as "fallen." Maybe because they were dying out? |
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2012-02-27, 16:12 | Link #2127 | |
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EG: yes, once they give Zen the card gimmick they need to pick a card per pilot, but other than Amata's card I don't think you need to know any cartomancy to figure out how cards got picked. Instead, you can assume some of them got picked for their "obvious" symbolisms (Mikono is ace of hearts because romance, Kagura is a joker because of mystery), and the rest got selected to avoid accidentally stoking the shipping flames (e.g.: don't give Amata the same suit as any of the main girls; don't give Mikono and Zessica different ranks...etc.). Amata doesn't quite fit that "non-cartomancy logic" scheme, but maybe he does; it might simply be the case that they didn't want to make it seem preordained that he's "better" than Kagura, and thus gave him the Jack (instead of a joker or a higher-rank face card). So yeah: he does seem to fit the meaning for that card, but cartomancy is fairly obscure stuff, and thus I'd be inclined to favor an explanation of his being the jack of spades that doesn't require knowledge of cartomancy). Hence why I thought you might be over-thinking it. But the lancelot thing actually seems like potentially a really good fit for Amata's role in the story, especially if you're in the "Amata's the new guy and not part of the legend" camp. Regardless, perhaps Alisia is metaphorically our lady of the lake? |
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2012-02-27, 16:20 | Link #2128 | |
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/waves hand? Although I like Zessica more than Mikono as character, I don't (yet) ship her with Amata. Their scenes were funny, though. I'm not shipping anything strongly.
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2012-02-27, 16:25 | Link #2129 |
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Sadly for Zessica, I have a feeling that she'll always be 'Girl #2' for Amata. If Mikono leaves 'on her own free will' [ie. Come with me(Kagura) or he(Amata) dies].
And just so we're clear, that's one of the worst things to happen to a guy. It's that 'Pride' thing - and it's the fastest way for a sweet and caring guy who wouldn't hurt a fly to turn into a demonic whirlwind of revenge - AFTER he gets over the rather nasty BSOD that's sure to come. XD ...getting back on point, Either Zessica is going to try too hard to 'replace' Mikono for Amata or she's going to snap him out of the BSOD to fight for her.
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2012-02-27, 16:26 | Link #2130 | |||
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Now, if she did it on purpose, she gets some respect, because it worked. Quote:
JK, but as far as I'm concerned I'd rather have a couple like Mix and Andy where at least one of them needs to grow as a character before anything would happen. To me a couple that learns to love each other >>>>>> cutesy couple that fell for each other on first sight and then just works out what they feel for each other. But I guess that's down to taste. That said, there rarely are badass heroines, even these days. I'm tired of badass heroes and damsel in distress girls myself Quote:
Although of course, AmataxMikono is so likely/loved-up still that I can't argue that it won't happen or isn't the likely outcome right now. |
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2012-02-27, 16:30 | Link #2131 | ||
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It can possibly be hinted through the ending with her opposite reflection in the mirror. She isn't aware like how the dark half has her eyes closed while the white half is looking away. Quote:
more likely Mikage would use his mind messing ability on Mikono till she has no problem just up and leaving all her friends and family. She feels she needs to apologize to Kagura, no indication has been made to her wanting to run away with him.
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2012-02-27, 16:35 | Link #2133 |
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I do like Amata and I do like Mikono. But I don't like them as a main pairing.
They are very alike, have good communication. Basically they are the perfect real life couple. They wouldn't bother me as a side pair. But they lack conflict to actually be interesting to me, given the enormous numbers of scenes they get. It's not an horrendous pair, but it lacks something I guess. |
2012-02-27, 16:40 | Link #2134 | |
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Wait, you're saying they're just using the cards and various symbolism to give a sort of flair to scenes, without any deep meaning in particular? No no, this can't be true. |
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2012-02-27, 16:41 | Link #2135 | |
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Based on your findings I did my own poking around and think you're right. It *appears* that the word for 2 in Tibetan is variously romanized as *gnis* or *gnyis* (the latter seems more common), and thus seems to show up in lots of Buddhist terminology (e.g. probably in any talk of dualism). You can see some examples of it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_truths_doctrine or here: http://aro-books-worldwide.org/share...two_01_eng.php As a pedantic aside Tibetan is considered to be in the Sino-Tibetan family, and isn't Indo-European like Sanskrit, but because of the Buddhist angle with those two languages there's a lot of shared vocabulary and there's been a lot of comparative linguistics. So yeah: the show's pretty clearly a mishmash of ideas and terms pulled together to sound cool, and this "gnis" term seems unlikely to be all that meaningful. That aside about the "tenchi" they're using is cool, but those meaning-pronunciation "puns" never really translate. オッカムの剃刀が禁止です! |
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2012-02-27, 16:44 | Link #2136 | |
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Jack - Youth (Male or Female) Queen - Mature Female King - Mature Male Ace - New Beginnings Joker - Wild Card - unexpected and uncontrolled In one episode(I think 14ep) in the first series Fudo was playing with cards too: Jack or King of Spades was Sirius, Jack or King of Clubs was Apollonius, Queen of Hearts was Silvia. So they just gave for Amata Clubs because they gave the same card for the first series protagonist. Kagura - Wild Child - Wild Card. According to Kagura Shrade is Sirius - Spades. Since heroine in the first series was Hearts - Mikono is Hearts too. |
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2012-02-27, 16:46 | Link #2137 | |
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Oh and "technically", Amata and Mikono can't be considered in love yet, it's still "only" attraction but getting there That said, I'm not arguing against the likelihood of AmataxMikono, it's the anticipated outcome right now I'm not delusional, I swear, but seeing this picture again, it spontaneously reminds me of this . I feel like we're being trolled in 12000 different ways. Last edited by Faerie; 2012-02-27 at 16:50. Reason: GAAAHHH formatting xD |
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2012-02-27, 16:47 | Link #2138 |
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In the end still nothing will happen. They will say goodbyes. I hope its the girls who die this time while the guys are told to wait another 12000 years. The pairing of apollonius and celiane is never meant to be. They love each other but they always put the universe in danger.
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2012-02-27, 16:52 | Link #2139 | |
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2012-02-27, 16:56 | Link #2140 | ||
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*snerk* I mean, I know it's fun to speculate, it's just that... this is Aquarion. ^^;; I've been watching anime for quite a long time but if you asked me how many shows I've seen that were drenched in symbolism that actually made sense... Utena is the only one that comes into mind. Definitely not Aquarion. Not really - people are just building up expectations based on no concrete evidence, and then they feel surprised and disappointed when it doesn't turn out the way they wanted/thought it would. ^^;; And then they blame the writer/director. |
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