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10: Amazing... | 4 | 8.33% | |
9 out of 10: Excellent... | 4 | 8.33% | |
8 out of 10: Very Good... | 13 | 27.08% | |
7 out of 10: Good... | 12 | 25.00% | |
6 out of 10: Average... | 7 | 14.58% | |
5 out of 10: Below Average... | 5 | 10.42% | |
4 out of 10: Poor... | 3 | 6.25% | |
3 out of 10: Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10: Very Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10: Torturous... | 0 | 0% | |
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2012-04-24, 13:01 | Link #161 | ||
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The ones I disagree with are the posters in this very thread who think genocide is justifiable here, that the Federation somehow has no choice, will never have any other choice. |
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2012-04-24, 15:09 | Link #162 |
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I start to hate the double Standard who is in this board so lately, this like we can give a free hand to the villain because that looks cool form them, but when the protagonist side enter to more 'serious' actions, is like they're the evils all along.
Gundam series is a show about war, Gundam Age is about an almost century long War between the Earth & Veigans, hate and all born in so state of conflict. I'm waiting how will be Kio time... a time of tranquility or a time of tears? |
2012-04-24, 16:22 | Link #163 | ||
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But the thing is, it doesn't give the heroes free rein to do the same things, even if it could be argued the bad guys "started it". Quote:
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2012-04-24, 16:26 | Link #164 |
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Which Double Standards? Well than the Veigan doesn't have a good record about colateral Damage(like five colonies being destroyed...On-Screen and several more in side materials) but them when the Federation(mostly the protagonist side, specially Flit) want to going to do counter-measure, the people scream than they plan genocide...
Genocide is NOT NEW in the franchise, heck even the Cold Opening of Gundam 0079 say how almost a third of the Earth Sphere population die from the only the first month(FIRST), of the One Year War because the widespread use of NBC and lack of Sensitive from Zeon(line the Operation British). Those for me are some big Double Standards.... |
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2012-04-24, 18:41 | Link #166 | ||
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If the EF wins the war, the proper course of action would be to try Ezelcant for war crimes, disband the military and HELP the people who are suffering in the Mars sphere, not murder everybody like Flit explicitly suggested.
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2012-04-24, 21:19 | Link #168 | |
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The MAD has it uses that the consequences are so horrible that every attack would have a equal measured response. Every Vegan in Earth Sphere is a combatant. So yeah wiping them out makes sense given they wont surrender or be taken as prisoners. From what we've gathered despite being the main defense forces of Earth sphere the EF military does not have a presence or control on every colony. Forces are quite minimal. These colonies are mostly independent. Some I imagine declaring themselves neutral. So really this is a Earth vs Mars conflict. Vegan has established in several decades infrastructure to invade Earth. Earth on the other hand does not have the means to conduct an offense to threaten Mars to surrendering or ceasing the conflict. Given the facts Flit doesn't really have a choice. |
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2012-04-24, 22:51 | Link #170 |
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What's kind of silly about this entire thing is, at this point the grunt units on each side are fairly evenly matched. And there is no way even after 150 years, that a small colonization force for Mars; especially with those mortality rates, would be able to take on the combined military forces of Earth.
Yes, the Earth officials were impeding progress, but much like the US after Pearl Harbor -- they should have been able to produce an insane amount of war materiel backed by 6-9 billion people. There can't be more than a few hundred million Vagans. And they obviously rely on Earth resources to produce a good chunk of their suits. Why is there yet another 25 year gap after Age2, when at that point, the officials were purged and they should be able to steam forward with pilot training and mobile suit production. |
2012-04-25, 01:52 | Link #171 | |
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In terms of how far Flit can go it could get pretty scary. After all if he retains his belief that the Vagans aren't human then will he pull the breaks at just their military? It may never become an issue in the series, but I can't say that Flit isn't capable of going that far. There's a lot of anger there after all.
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Of course the grunts on both sides suck so badly it's hard to tell where they stand against each other. But somehow I expect them to say that even though Flit should be ramping up the Federation war machine that things are still bad. Maybe saying that Flit's purge put some countries on edge and make them more willing to cooperate and support the Vagan cause...or something. At any rate I'm sure they won't spend much time on the logistics of it all. Just get Kio into that Gundam, that's the plan .
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2012-04-25, 06:13 | Link #172 | |
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Sure, corruption within the Feddies did breed contempt and indifference within the system, giving rise to irresponsible actions taken like the cover-up of the Martian project that condemned a whole population of humans on Mars. But at that point of time, those humans were desperately struggling for survival, and in my opinion, didn't really band around a common identity of "resisting adversity" or anything. At least not up till the point when Ezelcant appeared, who probably enlightened them by highlighting their common sufferings, helping to cultivate the identity of "Vagans". |
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2012-04-25, 06:47 | Link #173 |
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Anyone will found it funny if Martian project was same as Gundam Wing novel?
People colonies Mars > after that they want their on independence from FED which lead to some trouble > Age what if: FED got angry because they waste their resource to colonies Mars only to lost it so they decided to leave Mars and cut their relation with them > because of trouble with FED(war?) Mars people lose a lot of resource which made Mars colonies harder > in the end they have to ask FED for help > but FED ignored them. (-Didn't believe them? -Didn't feel like wasting fortune to help people who will just bite them back? Or maybe they was too far away and they calculated that by the time they arrived no one wll be alive so they decided to ignore them. And yes it's wrong.) |
2012-04-25, 12:24 | Link #175 | ||
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2012-04-25, 13:06 | Link #176 | ||
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2012-04-26, 03:47 | Link #177 |
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Flit has a LOT of hate, and has been shown on several occasions to not view Vegans as human. "Exterminating them all" really is something he'd do. Stamp them out entirely for what they did.
He doesn't sugarcoat the fact that his goal is revenge, after all. Why do you think he was toying with Decil and not even giving him the satisfaction of being killed by Flit himself? |
2012-04-26, 14:01 | Link #180 |
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thank you very much, looks like i got another model to add to the wanted list. lol its the only one i want from AGE. most of the AGE MS look decent and dont stand out much from MS of other series. im looking for unique ones atm. i got too many unbuilt and 1 other still to order, i still work on my model kits but i procrastinate alot. im glad its a new model, i had a fear i'd have to customise a paint job on the kit if it was an old model.
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