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Workworkwork · 2009-12-12, 16:36

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Originally Posted by ijriims

Piece Battler (the real world Battler), except in EP4, did not ever meet Beatrice once, so he probably could not develop any deep relationship in just two days' time, so there was almost no chance that he could go as a couple with her in the end.

For Meta-Battler and meta Beatrice, the case may be different though.

Of course, you're assuming he never knew the blonde and bouncy girl in EP4 who may or may not be named "Beatrice" before she took that name.

ijriims · 2009-12-12, 16:38

In the SN, Beatrice used the red texts to say she did not exist six years ago. So I assume no blonde and bouncy Beatrice six years ago. And even if she existed, Battler did not meet her, as said when they were talking about Battler's sin.

Workworkwork · 2009-12-12, 16:39

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Originally Posted by ijriims

In the SN, Beatrice used the red texts to say she did not exist six years ago. So I assume no blonde and bouncy Beatrice six years ago.

Read. BEATRICE didn't exist 6 years ago. There's nothing saying she didn't exist with another name.

Kitsu · 2009-12-12, 16:39

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But the rest of the characters have the same Eagle Battler has. (Unless I'm mistaken)

You are mistaken. Shannon's tatoo is like that as well as Eva's.

ijriims · 2009-12-12, 16:41

What was that beatrice's alternative identity then?

If you were not going to break JessicaXKanon and GeorgeXShannon, then were you suggesting that Beatrice was Renon or whoever female servants left?

ijriims · 2009-12-12, 16:42

What was that beatrice's identity six years ago then?

If you were not going to break JessicaXKanon and GeorgeXShannon, then were you suggesting that Beatrice was Renon or whoever female servants left?

Or Erika you are saying? (She could still exist in some other names according to your logic)

Workworkwork · 2009-12-12, 16:45

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Originally Posted by ijriims

What was that beatrice's identity six years ago then?

If you were not going to break JessicaXKanon and GeorgeXShannon, then were you suggesting that Beatrice was Renon or whoever female servants left?

Or Erika you are saying? (She could still exist in some other names according to your logic)

Someone. Anyone. She could share a name with Jessica or Sayo for all I care, as long as she isn't the same person.

I think through the lens of a good story, so excuse me if I may not have all my points "backed up".

Dlanor A. Knox · 2009-12-12, 16:45

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Originally Posted by Kitsu

There is the theory that Kanon knew Battler before 1986

uh really... could be the reason why he was so silent against Battler the 1st time they met....

ijriims · 2009-12-12, 16:50

But from a point of a good story, introduce someone who had almost not been described at all (Erika, Renon or whoever she was in EP1-4) as someone as important as having the true identity of Beatrice would not a good story.

Workworkwork · 2009-12-12, 16:55

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Originally Posted by ijriims

But from a point of a good story, introduce someone who had almost not been described at all (Erika, Renon or whoever she was in EP1-4) as someone as important as having the true identity of Beatrice would not a good story.

Of course. Like I said, I haven't really thought it out, it was just something I'd been meaning to say.

Dlanor A. Knox · 2009-12-12, 16:56

only Erika is excluded because:

The criminal must be someone mentioned in the early part of the story, but must not be anyone whose thoughts the reader has been allowed to follow.

from what I understand we can read some parts about the toughts of Erika

The detective must not himself commit the crime.

Joneleth · 2009-12-12, 17:00

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Originally Posted by Kitsu

You are mistaken. Shannon's tatoo is like that as well as Eva's.

Ok then.

So next question :

Why are there different versions of the Eagle?

Dlanor A. Knox · 2009-12-12, 17:03

Maybe because the sexes? like male has haf tail, and female whole tail?
.....
excluding Ronove...

ijriims · 2009-12-12, 17:14

Workworkwork, you have chosen the side where the true identity of Beatrice was yet shown, but having a chance for real BattlerXBeatrice to exist............

You are choosing a happy ending story, not a good story.

Hope that you will not be heartbroken by Ryukishi...

Workworkwork · 2009-12-12, 17:18

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Originally Posted by ijriims

Workworkwork, you have chosen the side where the true identity of Beatrice was yet shown, but having a chance for real BattlerXBeatrice to exist............

You are choosing a happy ending story, not a good story.

Hope that you will not be heartbroken by Ryukishi...

*snicker*

Are we talking about the same Ryukishi that guarenteed a happy ending for Satoko and Shion?

Oh yeah, we are.

Dlanor A. Knox · 2009-12-12, 17:20

Workworkwork just points out the possibilities (did I spell it right?)

Kitsu · 2009-12-12, 17:21

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Maybe because the sexes? like male has haf tail, and female whole tail?
.....
excluding Ronove...

Naah, Rosa for example has a half tail.

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*snicker*

Are we talking about the same Ryukishi that guarenteed a happy ending for Satoko and Shion?

Oh yeah, we are.

You forgot. This time it might not end the perfect way.

Joneleth · 2009-12-12, 17:21

For a happy end Meta Battler could remain in the golden land and marry Beato there, while Piece Battler goes home with Ange and everyone's happy.

But I doubt this will happen though.

Workworkwork · 2009-12-12, 17:22

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Originally Posted by Kitsu

Naah, Rosa for example has a half tail.

You forgot. This time it might not end the perfect way.

All he said was that not everyone would make it out alive.

He said this shortly before EP4 was released, so...

Dlanor A. Knox · 2009-12-12, 17:23

oh yeah.... now im curoius... stupid tails xDDD

2009-12-12, 16:38	Link #4062
ijriims Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: HK, China	In the SN, Beatrice used the red texts to say she did not exist six years ago. So I assume no blonde and bouncy Beatrice six years ago. And even if she existed, Battler did not meet her, as said when they were talking about Battler's sin.

2009-12-12, 16:41	Link #4065
ijriims Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: HK, China	What was that beatrice's alternative identity then? If you were not going to break JessicaXKanon and GeorgeXShannon, then were you suggesting that Beatrice was Renon or whoever female servants left?

2009-12-12, 16:42	Link #4066
ijriims Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: HK, China	What was that beatrice's identity six years ago then? If you were not going to break JessicaXKanon and GeorgeXShannon, then were you suggesting that Beatrice was Renon or whoever female servants left? Or Erika you are saying? (She could still exist in some other names according to your logic)

2009-12-12, 16:50	Link #4069
ijriims Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: HK, China	But from a point of a good story, introduce someone who had almost not been described at all (Erika, Renon or whoever she was in EP1-4) as someone as important as having the true identity of Beatrice would not a good story.

2009-12-12, 16:56	Link #4071
Dlanor A. Knox Crazy but OK xP Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Netherlands Age: 31	only Erika is excluded because: The criminal must be someone mentioned in the early part of the story, but must not be anyone whose thoughts the reader has been allowed to follow. from what I understand we can read some parts about the toughts of Erika The detective must not himself commit the crime.

2009-12-12, 17:03	Link #4073
Dlanor A. Knox Crazy but OK xP Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Netherlands Age: 31	Maybe because the sexes? like male has haf tail, and female whole tail? ..... excluding Ronove...

2009-12-12, 17:14	Link #4074
ijriims Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: HK, China	Workworkwork, you have chosen the side where the true identity of Beatrice was yet shown, but having a chance for real BattlerXBeatrice to exist............ You are choosing a happy ending story, not a good story. Hope that you will not be heartbroken by Ryukishi...

2009-12-12, 17:20	Link #4076
Dlanor A. Knox Crazy but OK xP Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Netherlands Age: 31	Workworkwork just points out the possibilities (did I spell it right?)

2009-12-12, 17:21	Link #4078
Joneleth Blue Wizard Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Brussels Age: 39	For a happy end Meta Battler could remain in the golden land and marry Beato there, while Piece Battler goes home with Ange and everyone's happy. But I doubt this will happen though.

2009-12-12, 17:23	Link #4080
Dlanor A. Knox Crazy but OK xP Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Netherlands Age: 31	oh yeah.... now im curoius... stupid tails xDDD