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Old 2009-09-12, 03:25   Link #241
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Exactly, having a tragic past doesn't justify her actions. Nobody is born evil, they become one. Rud had a tragic past, but he's not evil, is he?
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Old 2009-09-12, 10:20   Link #242
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Exactly, having a tragic past doesn't justify her actions. Nobody is born evil, they become one. Rud had a tragic past, but he's not evil, is he?
Depends on what your definition of "evil" is >.>.
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Old 2009-09-12, 10:36   Link #243
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Exactly, having a tragic past doesn't justify her actions. Nobody is born evil, they become one. Rud had a tragic past, but he's not evil, is he?
Ah it does for me since she only "becomes evil" through no fault of her own and is partially responsible for how twisted her personality has become. Now if she had a proper upbringing then things would have been completely different and if she still ended up being "evil" then that is completely her fault but I don't see that as being the case. She had to eat dirt to get to her current position and I can only feel sorry for someone who had to fight for themselves all this time and alone.

And granted she really hasn't done anything bad that classifies her as being a villain either. That role is currently held by fire dragon and Vera has been on the defensive all this time. Someone should give her a break and cut some slack
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One's past, no matter how tragic it is, cannot justify one' present action. Very's still the bad bad, very bad girl (though that just makes her hotter )
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Old 2009-09-12, 13:07   Link #244
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They're all evil. They're sadistic, brutal,...

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Just started reading this yeasterday. Awesome. And then i skipped through the volume 8 and 9 raws and now i can't wait to see them scanlated. o.ob
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Old 2009-09-12, 18:27   Link #245
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Depends on what your definition of "evil" is >.>.
Yup.
Vera's potential must be surely amazing cause of Yuri sealed her powers.

Damn, can't wait for the next chapter......
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Old 2009-09-12, 20:54   Link #246
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Like I have always said, Vera is the tragic type and like all tragic types she has a tragic background story that will make the viewers feel sympathy for her...and I am damn weak against those types.

See? She isn't bad at all...just misunderstood and had grown up in this cold harsh world without knowing any love ;___;

Now jump into my chest Vera, it's all right~

And if I don't know any better I think Vera has a thing for Lighting Tiger...I still can't quite believe that he is dead :/
If you think about it, Vera is the way she is now because she was used by Lighting Tiger. She could be living a normal life if he had Completely taken her ability to do martial arts. Instead, he realized that she could be a weapon against his enemy and remove the partial seal she had. That is why she is a monster now.
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Old 2009-09-13, 01:02   Link #247
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If you think about it, Vera is the way she is now because she was used by Lighting Tiger. She could be living a normal life if he had Completely taken her ability to do martial arts. Instead, he realized that she could be a weapon against his enemy and remove the partial seal she had. That is why she is a monster now.
she could still do martial arts just not use any ki so she won't be as powerful heavens riches would be denied to her.
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Old 2009-09-13, 01:08   Link #248
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That sounds like the Aiki thing. You limit the talent to gain expertise in using what you have left.
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Old 2009-09-13, 11:53   Link #249
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That sounds like the Aiki thing. You limit the talent to gain expertise in using what you have left.
exactly heavens riches is as you seen almost completely reliant on ki and hs no physical skills Vera would have to modify her training regimen if LT had blocked of her ki
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Old 2009-09-13, 15:14   Link #250
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So we got confirmation that Yuri was not a great sister to Vera And that it was Lightning Tiger who "saved" Vera by breaking the seal.

I like Vera much more now, and I understand why she feels sad about LT's death. It was not "admiration" for the man who did beat her, but gratitute for the man who helped her to open her eyes about what kind of person was her sister.
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Old 2009-09-13, 15:52   Link #251
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Are there new chapters out or are you guys just talking about stuff from the Korean raws?
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Old 2009-09-13, 16:06   Link #252
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I like Vera much more now, and I understand why she feels sad about LT's death. It was not "admiration" for the man who did beat her, but gratitute for the man who helped her to open her eyes about what kind of person was her sister.
I still think there's a lot of admiration in there, the utmost admiration for the first man that dared to go against her almighty sister, no? He lets her know her sister fears of her, and that sister isn't untouchable.
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Old 2009-09-13, 16:10   Link #253
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If you think about it, Vera is the way she is now because she was used by Lighting Tiger. She could be living a normal life if he had Completely taken her ability to do martial arts. Instead, he realized that she could be a weapon against his enemy and remove the partial seal she had. That is why she is a monster now.
For some reason I don't think that is possible. And all the more so without any power at all she would be lonely AND powerless to do anything. At least now she has a way of fighting back even if it is on her own. In the end she is still part of the "family" and will have expectations placed onto her especially since Yuri went kaput.

And I think it is both gratitude and admiration
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Old 2009-09-13, 20:03   Link #254
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she could still do martial arts just not use any ki so she won't be as powerful heavens riches would be denied to her.
yeah she could, but as we can see, normal martial artist without the ability to use KI are second rate and would never accomplished anything as we have seen in the manga. It is only the people that can use the overpower technique that require KI that dominate the world of Veritas.
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Old 2009-09-13, 20:28   Link #255
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I think that so far Yuri seems like the person who fears that her sister Vera might surpass her. Thats why she´s so distant against her.
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Old 2009-09-13, 21:16   Link #256
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yeah she could, but as we can see, normal martial artist without the ability to use KI are second rate and would never accomplished anything as we have seen in the manga. It is only the people that can use the overpower technique that require KI that dominate the world of Veritas.
who knows perhaps there a guy or girl like tenjo tenge bunshishi or masked wrestler guy who can destroy a ki user with physical force and they don't have any ki.

who knows

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I think that so far Yuri seems like the person who fears that her sister Vera might surpass her. Thats why she´s so distant against her.
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Old 2009-09-18, 01:02   Link #257
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Some of the characters in the background in the later chapters remind me of Psycho Mantis.
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Old 2009-09-18, 05:23   Link #258
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Damn it......the chapter suddenly ended....
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Old 2009-09-18, 08:31   Link #259
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Possible events of meeting Yuri:
1) He gets powered up
2) Yuri wakes up
3) Both
4) Neither

I'm betting 4)
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Old 2009-09-18, 14:47   Link #260
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hope the bitch sleeps forever but we know she will wake up eventually and be gans final opponent
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