2012-02-08, 13:16 | Link #42 |
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That rant about sacrifice by LoP seems really ... Shallow and unwarranted. It's okay for you to enjoy the manga as much as you (somehow) do, even if the majority here seems to agree that it went south years ago. HOWEVER, you shouldn't blindly defend its faults because you enjoy it, that's a bit ... Ridiculous. You didn't write this and therefore you have no more idea than anybody else here what Bleach's take on the word "sacrifice" is. That being said, with the powers characters are known to have, it seems ridiculous that he wouldn't be or can't be healed. His arm was destroyed just like Menoly's body or any other limb in this series.
You're acting like this is Fullmetal Alchemist and he did some sort of alchemy for equivalent exchange and now his arm is being worn by some pute white creature so it can't come back. Sorry, but Kubo isn't as good of a writer as that. Regardless, chapter was boring. I dislike the two new characters and was hoping they'd somehow meet their demise (but it's Bleach so that will never happen). Regardless, I hardly think a big page showing just Ichigo with his typical "hero" intro was unnecessary seeing as by this point it's just like "yes, we know, we get it. Move on with the story please..." |
2012-02-08, 13:40 | Link #43 |
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The only thing this chapter told me, from page 4 specifically, is added depth to the plot hole of what happens to aaaaall the hollows that non-shinigami kill, not to mention the entire chapter is flippin' filler. Can't type more because I have to puke, 3 weeks for THIS.
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2012-02-08, 13:49 | Link #45 |
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Chapter was okay. Comedy was decent, and the set-up, while simplisitc, was still okay. Sadly, that is the best I can say: okay. I'm perplexed as to why Shounen Jump didn't give Kubo a larger chapter to play around with so that we can be better eased into this new, and final, arc. Oh well, here's hoping next week will be a little more interesting.
That being said, who here wished that it was Karin that jumped in to save the new Shinigami at the end of the chapter? . |
2012-02-08, 14:48 | Link #46 | |
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I wish this meant we would see Ishida gain more relevance and become a powerful character. He is, after all, the only nakama to defeat a captain even if through a one-off powerup. Sadly, I expect we'll see something more like a "rescue ishida" , damsel-in-distress type arc. |
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2012-02-08, 14:52 | Link #47 |
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I don't think it's going to be a rescue Ishida. If this is a quincy arc then I think Ishida will become an antagonist but not the ultimate big bad (like Sasuke and countless of other examples) and it will end with him going back to normal either because Ichigo convinces him to change sides again or because he was actually a good guy all along and was just playing.
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2012-02-08, 14:55 | Link #48 |
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I'm holding out hope for some of the things in that interview posted in another thread that I greatly hope to see, but until then, eh.
I hope those two newbies don't become major characters. Because Kubo really should have learned by now that introducing new characters again and again doesn't make things interesting when you already have an army of other characters to work with. |
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But this is most definitely an arc about Quincy. It's Ishida's turn to be the nakama highlighted in the arc, which means there will be about 5 pages of him and no development... |
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2012-02-08, 16:05 | Link #52 |
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Well, that was a tad disappointing. I know writers are always told "Show, don't tell" but I honestly think a whole chapter of exposition might be needed at this point. While I seem to be less annoyed than many of you at this opening, it is still kind of hard to defend it. I am also beginning to get sick of Kubo doing all these half explanations and then just moving on. Of things we are sort of half aware of:The Soul King and the Royal Guard, the Vasto Lords and whether we have seen one, we still don't know what Ichigo's mother was, and we still don't have a good idea of what happens in Hell, though I suspect he may have decided that it does not exist anymore.
Anywho, I actually doubt that whatever is destroying Hollows is the Quincy's we are familiar with. Now, it might be new enemies or simply new Quincys, but if it is new Quincy's then I suspect these ones follow different rules. |
2012-02-08, 16:46 | Link #53 |
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Yea ok I'm all for new faces(even if they are not very interesting at all) but why the hell did Kubbo decide to have this little whelp assigned to what is possible the most dnagerous area there is?
Sure I know it said he was the #1 choice and from that he has to have abilities but by god why the damn pussy arse nature, why couldn't he have had him being middle ground, somewhat just new and maybe not so confident but not a little arse wipe that screams like a little girl at first sign of danger....oh wait thats a insult to little girls. I know we're probably gonna go through the whole he'll learn to be strong and bad ass and bring out his abilites as the story goes and what not but I really really can't bring myself to like this part. This start has stained whatever develpoment(no matter how bad ass he gets) that little twerp gets. Why the hell isn't there a Vice captian assigned to the town?! I would think the town warrants that at the least. Chapter was in essence rather plain but it does set up for what could be of some interest. Always wondered when we'd see the story tackle the quincy thing but never figured it would be the last arc.
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2012-02-08, 17:17 | Link #54 |
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To be honest though, I do doubt that this will be about Quincys. It would just be too random a thing to have, especially for a final arc. There's been no foreshadowing, at least not the amount that you'd expect for final antagonists.
Then again, Bleach has never had much storyline structure coherence to it. Not to menrion that introducing an entirely new group would hardly be much better. Of course, if it's not Quincys then Kubo pretty much shot himself in the foot when he made Mayuri say "there's only one group that can erase hollows". If it turns out to be a new group then he's already started off with plot hole. Its not beyond Kubo but it doesn't bode well for the rest of this final arc, especially when he had a three week break to think it over.
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The only thing that makes his action a "sacrifice" is the fact that yamaji did not take into account his arm could be healed (apparently ignoring the capbilities of his own healers) and thus took on the action with the intention that he may never be able to use his arm again. But the sacrifice becomes tainted when its clear that what was lost CAN be restored... Using a plothole to keep his arm lost does not restore the significance of the loss.
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So I guess the final arc will be Shinigami vs Quincys vs Arrancar?
Lots of hollows are being erased at the moment, which will destroy the balance if it's not stopped. The only ones capable of erasing these hollows from existence are the Quincys. The Shinigami have stopped them in the past because of this reason. Even though they were supposed to be wiped out, I guess it's possible that a small elite group survived though. Ryuken, who seems pretty strong, might be part of this group. Ryuken in turn seems to know Isshin, so we might finally learn more about these two. The Quincys might go to the 'hometown' of the hollows, Hueco Mundo. It was said that Grimmjow and Nell had high chances to appear in this arc after all. I guess that both the Shinigami and the Arrancar will fight against the Quincys. The Shinigami will fight to protect the balance and the Arrancar will fight for survival.
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I wonder how Kubo's going to establish or effectively imply the next major group of bad guys to be more dangerous than Aizen's modified arrancar, or even Aizen himself (assuming Aizen doesn't return)--especially if the big bad is a Quincy. I mean the thought of a Quincy being more powerful than Aizen is...well...almost kinda funny.
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