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View Poll Results: Utawarerumono Episode 12 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 3 | 6.82% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 18 | 40.91% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 17 | 38.64% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 6 | 13.64% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2006-06-22, 12:41 | Link #23 | |
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2006-06-22, 21:28 | Link #25 |
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Even if her portayal was closer to the game's she's hardly a Wily E. Coyote (sp?). Natsuki has at least a couple of "crises" so you'd have to be a little specific. She's quite tsun-dere (though not quite in the usual sense), but she's not a lesbian in the purest sense, if that's what you were referring to. She is definetly a
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Anyway, the game portrayal may have been jarring for the mood transition and direction, but it develops Touka's character. This is an anime, not an artistic film. Mood transition and direction would be very important in the latter, but the former doesn't really have to follow those filmmaking standards anywhere close to the letter. Utawarerumono is a work that bets big on its story and characters, so developing those characters would be paramount. It's an anime, so it doesn't have to bet big on direction and filmmaking qualities. They help, but they're not as necessary as in an art film, or even a typical film created in Hollywood. I think you're taking Utawarerumono a bit too seriously for the wrong reasons.
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2006-06-23, 03:32 | Link #26 |
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she's not tsundere
she's a quasi airhead with questionable luck Aruru is a tsundere Kuuya is a tsundere heck, oboro is a tsundere but not Touka Natsuki crisis basically means life screwing over your otherwise oh so cool image and person Wild E Coyote refers to that particular bridge scene in the game. Though you wouldn't know about it SINCE YOU HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED IT YET Yes, I am at fault for bringing up the accursed game topic, but I did not start this. |
2006-06-23, 05:17 | Link #27 | ||
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EDIT: Maybe a mod can move all the posts starting at PGilis's post (excluding Srin Tuar's) to the game thread, as I think we're heavily derailing this one... |
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2006-06-23, 07:00 | Link #29 | |
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Also, none of the characters are tsundere imo, though Kuuya might come close (but not really). And what do you mean with you being at fault for bringing up the accursed game topic? Where did you bring this up? |
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2006-06-23, 08:44 | Link #30 |
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It is frowned upon to talk about the game in episode threads.
No, not even when comparing differences... there is a seperate thread for that, plus it's generally counter productive. Go to the Fate Stay Night anime forum and you'll see what I mean. Anyway, I'll just say this.. those of you who know the game beforefand.. don't jump the gun too soon. Complaining about this alteration is equivalent to complaining on why the chose to make the twin flowers non identical, or how nuwangi cheated death, or how they omitted the first bee hive scene, or how they didn't explain Karura's mercy kill, where the heck is Kuuya, ect.. There is a rhyme and reason to this.. let the show go on first. From my experience these concerns are usually wrong, and Utawarerumono seems to be handled by someone who understands the story. |
2006-06-23, 10:14 | Link #31 |
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*sigh* Here I wanted to discuss the anime and all I hear is "ZOMG!The anime is not like the game!"
I liked this episode,I was getting forward to when we'd learn more about Hakuoro's true identity.And it seems he did something really evil,especially to have soldiers thrown so recklessly against him! |
2006-06-23, 10:59 | Link #33 | |
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2006-06-23, 21:44 | Link #35 | |
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Like the others said, Aruruu's not tsundere. Kuuya comes close, but not really there. Oboro, not really as well.
Touka isn't really tsundere either. There's most definetly a whole another anime archetype for her, I just don't know what it's called. And besides, you only got the tsun-tsun, not the dere. Quote:
I am following Mastress Alita's summaries of the game. They are quite good and detailed, so I do know about the particular scene (otherwise how would I be comparing this episode to the original scene?) (not the exact dialogue, but that's not needed here). I haven't played the game. But that doesn't make what I say any less valid if what I say is accurate and informed, which it is. And yeah, what exactly do you mean by "Wile E. Coyote?" Her cartoonish hanging in the air? Probably not, as that's just a simple anime and Japanese game convention. Do you mean her silliness? Well that's part of her character, after all. (I'm on a really shaky internet connection, hence the attempt to predict your questions in advance).
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2006-06-24, 04:41 | Link #36 |
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let me put this in the most gentle way possible...
I know you haven't played the game I know you've been basing this mostly on Alita's synopses (who while dedicated, has a limited understanding of Japanese) so you see.. you really... don't have the right to compare anything to the game... at all... that's equivalent to someone browsing moonlit world, reading about fate stay night, and complaining how the anime buthered scene xyz... it doesn't work that way.. and they're always wrong because they're basing it on a made up interpretation. If you want to talk about this further feel free to private mail me |
2006-06-25, 22:43 | Link #37 |
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Takemi's ad hominem aside (commence PM war!!)
Onto the episode: There's a chance they may come up with a better way to do Touka, so I'm going to see what happens in tomorrow's episode. Maybe it'll be better. Maybe not. Spoiler for light game spoiler:
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2006-07-01, 10:34 | Link #38 | |
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2006-07-01, 16:18 | Link #40 |
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whether or not he was that bad or not, it's not who he is now. Experiences and the enviroment play part in the grow of a person. Now...what I do find disturbing...he did have a wife and children, what made him snap? Something sinister I bet, but I'm not sure if it was his fault. (all speculation at this point)
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