2012-07-29, 18:36 | Link #1301 | ||
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Personally, I just have some issues with the eyes and colors. I don't notice these problems during closer-up shots and actual animation, which is why I complimented those two areas specifically.
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2012-07-29, 18:52 | Link #1303 | |||
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a) The strengths of the medium aren't on display b) With so much emphasis on recreating reference shots, the differences stand out even more, which defeats the intended purpose It would be better to show what the VN can't offer. Precisely matching the original look is impossible, so a trailer focusing too much on that is bound to disappoint. Actually, the same goes for the character designs. They've made them so similar to the game that the differences (i.e. simplification) are inadvertently highlighted. Quote:
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2012-07-29, 19:14 | Link #1306 | |||||
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As if it does a good job at catching interest? I cannot say. I'm not the best person to ask about this, I don't like KEY like others do and I don't think there's anything that attractive about their works on the surface. Quote:
I'll say this. The preview certainly wasn't the most exciting thing ever, but is it mostly because of the visuals or the fact that it was just animating directly most of the scenes from the original VN OP? As you pointed out, no it isn't too far fetched that could give us a trailer with scenes from the actual anime. If anything I think the criticism should be placed on them for choosing to animate parts of the anime OP instead of putting together a real trailer. Quote:
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Also I have never said people can't criticize things (If you know me then that would be the most hypocritical comment I could ever make of this forum). But if you criticize it, you should also welcome the fact that people may very well disagree with those criticisms? I am merely calling into question the level of expectations set forth by a fanbase that wants a job exactly done like a beloved studio of theirs. YES, it could be better, I will not deny that. But that pretty much applies to everything. My accusations of entitlement stem from the fact that I perceive a fanbase that only will ever accept the royal treatment for their product. I thought the subject here was how well they are adapting a work. I never said KyoAni didn't do a good job at adapting their KEY works, in fact they often improved upon their mediocre sources. KEY works just aren't very good in the first place to me, though I think I enjoyed Little Busters more than their previous works for whatever reason.
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2012-07-29, 20:04 | Link #1309 | |
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Regardless how you loathe K-on design (due to its simplicity and whatnot), that mention is really impertinent. Many series got some kind of "generic" looks for ages, starting from the early 2000 (with the progressive "loss" of characteristic designs of the 80 and 90'). So blaming or using K-on as the fundation of a "generalized" design is really not any good and shouldn't be used at all. And using your example, SAO is actually modeled after Working!! design, and has nothing close to K-on (to which few series actually share the same design, such like kannagi, sora no woto, Hyouka and kokoro connect). So if you really want to name a recent trend, I guess getting oversimple and/or too much emphasis on moe (moeblob/moeficiation huh?) works. But K-on? Its design is the vast minority among series we have been introduced, especially that "otaku pandering" trend emerged like in ~2006 already. and back to the topic: yes, I know full well how JC staff can be extremely inconsistent over the same series. That being said, you have to wonder how come they would step down in such fashion. Whereas the design is to everyone tastes or not, the major issue is something that is quite evident: colors and "textures". And really, things do not bode too well when every promotional material (interview, PV, etc) converge to the same result.
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2012-07-29, 20:15 | Link #1310 |
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While i am fine with the character designs and all, but i do have to agree that J.C. staff could have done much better. Especially seeing how many people were hyped for an anime adaptation of little busters , so it was a potential "cashcow" for the studio.
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2012-07-29, 20:38 | Link #1311 | |
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2012-07-29, 20:46 | Link #1312 | |
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Hyouka's trailer Complex backgrounds, falling pedals and that pan shot for the "wow" moments. You can feel the depth of the spaces. It doesn't look flat. Even the white scenes with the character walking with the bike has movement in the background.
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2012-07-29, 20:48 | Link #1313 |
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look like there will be 2 group watching this anime
Elitist unreasonable high-expectation VN player: always say that "this could have been better if it was Kyoani or PA" and will rate the anime low or average no matter how good it is. more open-minded VN player and anime-only watcher: rate the anime for how enjoyable it really is for them |
2012-07-29, 21:04 | Link #1314 | |
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2012-07-29, 21:24 | Link #1317 | |
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SAO was rushed, it didn't deserve much of a fair shot, specially on episode 2 and 3(these episodes absolutely deserved to be bashed). It was a disappointment even for the non-readers. If they do that with LB!(which I doubt), sh*t will go down. Everywhere. |
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2012-07-29, 21:52 | Link #1319 | |
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2012-07-29, 22:00 | Link #1320 |
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Well, I will say as before that this "major issue" doesn't seem so major to me -- I see it as part of the art style more than anything else, and not necessarily a flaw. I have seen shows that evoke a similar style on purpose, and if the whole show ended up looking as the PV, I don't think it would necessarily bother me. That being said, I suppose one possible reason for this could be that, if they are intending to animate the whole show with that much more fluidity than normal, having a simpler colour design may help make this more manageable. Then again, I suppose we also need to wait and see what an actual episode looks like.
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