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View Poll Results: Shin Sekai Yori - Episode 19 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 33 | 49.25% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 21 | 31.34% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 9 | 13.43% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 1 | 1.49% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 2.99% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.49% | |
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2013-02-09, 16:40 | Link #42 |
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I get that the human society in SSY is pretty rotten, and I'm not exactly shedding tears here over what's happening now, but you don't find any of these human characters the least bit pitiable, Kazu-kun?
Keep in mind that most of these folks were basically brainwashed their entire childhood and adolescence. We know how Saki and her group had occasional memory wipes - Well, most people in this society had their minds manipulated even more than that. It's hard for me to think that you can hold them accountable for much of anything.
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2013-02-09, 16:47 | Link #43 |
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FWIW it's not like they're all a rotten pile of arrogance. Whatever their society is like and for whatever reason, these are people capable of love, compassion, sacrifice, bravery, and so on and so forth.
But I guess it's just cool being edgy. *hums* darkity dark dark~ ♫ |
2013-02-09, 17:03 | Link #44 | |
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And come on... of all the persons to start the change is none other Yakomaru? If its saki and Satoru to be the ones rebelling... I may have support them since they are more humane that that animal Yakomaru.... Killing one or two of the higher officials is acceptable... but slaughtering and butchering men, women, children and old people just because of their so called "rotten" society is not good.. |
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2013-02-09, 17:10 | Link #45 |
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If anything, if they had kept with the old method then this wouldn't have happened.
It's only because they tried the experiment with Group 1 to figure out a new way that this is even happening. Still, there's no point in explaining things in detail to those unable to empathize to the situation and are only able to apply their own ethics even to a what-if type story. |
2013-02-09, 17:13 | Link #46 | ||
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All in all, I think this is a good opportunity for Saki. If she survives, maybe she will find the strength in herself to NOT become another Tomiko. Tomiko was controlled by fear just like everyone else. If the humans are to survive, they need a leader who isn't a paranoid faggot that would sacrifice their children out of fear. Because, the moment you sacrifice your humanity for survival, you can be damn sure karma will come to bite you in the ass, which is exactly what's happening right now. Karma has come in the form of a murderous fiend, and now they have to pay.
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2013-02-09, 17:20 | Link #47 |
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And again, it wouldn't have happened if they had simply continued with what they were doing. Rendering your argument wrong.
In fact, it was trying to move away from "being shit" (your words) that lead to this. Karma didn't bite them in the ass, it's no good deed goes unpunished. |
2013-02-09, 17:24 | Link #48 | |
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2013-02-09, 17:24 | Link #49 | |
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2013-02-09, 17:25 | Link #50 | |
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I wasn't arguing.
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2013-02-09, 17:26 | Link #51 | |
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Kazu-kun is right at a pragmatic level. Their arrogance has done them in. All of this was due to underestimation. First they underestimated Mamorou, and his ability/desire to survive. Then they underestimated Maria, and her ability/desire to stay loyal to her friends. Then they underestimated Saki, and her ability/desire to not rat out her friends. But the biggest of all, of course, was drastically underestimating Yakomaru and the Queerats. Right now, Yakomaru is outmaneuvering them so completely and so thoroughly that I can only call him "Glorious Bastard".
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2013-02-09, 17:26 | Link #52 | ||
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Hiding behind semantics. Well, it doesn't surprise me.
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For that matter, if Group 1 hadn't encountered the False Minoshiro, would they have even ended up much different? The show hasn't managed to explain that well. |
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2013-02-09, 17:29 | Link #53 | |
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She didn't even give herself some time to grief for lost of her love... or she is just frustrated so she uses Mamoru.. C'mon, at least she shouldn't have let him come inside... |
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2013-02-09, 17:30 | Link #54 | |
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And so the trauma train continues. If I lived Saki's life I'd have probably committed suicide about three times over by this point. Love the sense of horror and constant danger that permeated this episode. |
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2013-02-09, 17:32 | Link #55 |
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>Kazu-kun
I take it you're also actively rooting for the violent extinction of the human species in the real world, too. (Because otherwise ooh, sweet hypocrisy.) Seriously, isn't it just so easy to be judgemental and painting everyone with the same brush. |
2013-02-09, 17:36 | Link #57 | |
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I don't fully agree with Kazu-kun myself, but let's not go overboard here.
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2013-02-09, 17:36 | Link #58 | |
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However, there are many people in places of power throughout history who share these same ideas of superiority of their group that is entitled with a mix of fervent hatred of all outsiders that causes them to impose will on everyone that the world could have really done without. It is natural for humans to develop a human centered view of the world, however actively imposing said view to great amounts of destruction and coercion isn't a good thing, even if some was needed for sheer necessity of survival.
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2013-02-09, 17:37 | Link #59 | |
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Man, Genji's as slutty as Chiyu from Accel World. |
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