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Guernsey · 2010-06-24, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Same_Shark

Bad news! Sunrise Festival 2010 WILL NOT include HiME or Otome at all!

What? Awww man....

Highman · 2010-06-24, 19:15

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Originally Posted by Same_Shark

Bad news! Sunrise Festival 2010 WILL NOT include HiME or Otome at all!

OH WOW! JUST WOW! Is this the end for the Mai franchise altogether or HiME EXA (Alternate Retelling) won't be animated?

Well I guess that the five year wait was for HiME to return just nothing!

Still Shark give me some source on this anyway?

Minagi Mikoto · 2010-06-25, 15:11

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Originally Posted by Highman

OH WOW! JUST WOW! Is this the end for the Mai franchise altogether or HiME EXA (Alternate Retelling) won't be animated?

Well I guess that the five year wait was for HiME to return just nothing!

Still Shark give me some source on this anyway?

Don't worry we're alive anyway! You can read my fanfics if you want!

But I agree that animations are much better!

Highman · 2010-06-25, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Minagi Mikoto

Don't worry we're alive anyway! You can read my fanfics if you want!

But I agree that animations are much better!

Matter of fact, I have some good news, from my interpreter friend who also a big HiME/Otome fan said that the Sunrise Festival 2010 was supposed to be all about Gundam's history and even other mecha franchises that are involved as well. So we have some alot of hope for HiME saga down the road soon, everything is good once again.

Minagi Mikoto · 2010-06-25, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Highman

Matter of fact, I have some good news, from my interpreter friend who also a big HiME/Otome fan said that the Sunrise Festival 2010 was supposed to be all about Gundam's history and even other mecha franchises that are involved as well. So we have some alot of hope for HiME saga down the road soon, everything is good once again.

Hm! It's alright! Nothing to worry!

Same_Shark · 2010-06-25, 20:11

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Originally Posted by Highman

Matter of fact, I have some good news, from my interpreter friend who also a big HiME/Otome fan said that the Sunrise Festival 2010 was supposed to be all about Gundam's history and even other mecha franchises that are involved as well. So we have some alot of hope for HiME saga down the road soon, everything is good once again.

It's pretty much all of Sunrise's shounen anime, Not just Gundam, but even stuff like Yoroiden Samurai Troopers.

Highman · 2010-06-25, 22:53

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Originally Posted by Same_Shark

It's pretty much all of Sunrise's shounen anime, Not just Gundam, but even stuff like Yoroiden Samurai Troopers.

HiME is shonen too right, unless it's harem plus yuri stuff along the way. Really do you think it's really going to show trailer of the next HiME project or not. Because unless Hisayuki-san needs time evaluate all of this then yes he should have time off.

Same_Shark · 2010-06-26, 20:58

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Originally Posted by Highman

HiME is shonen too right, unless it's harem plus yuri stuff along the way. Really do you think it's really going to show trailer of the next HiME project or not. Because unless Hisayuki-san needs time evaluate all of this then yes he should have time off.

As, I said, Hisayuki is already working on a different anime that's not HiME-related. HiME isn't really shounen as much as it is for both. Sunrise Festival 2010 is showcasing the strictly shounen Sunrise series of the past.

Highman · 2010-06-26, 21:38

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Originally Posted by Same_Shark

As, I said, Hisayuki is already working on a different anime that's not HiME-related. HiME isn't really shounen as much as it is for both. Sunrise Festival 2010 is showcasing the strictly shounen Sunrise series of the past.

How can it be shonen unless it's science fiction shoujo. I said that, If he needs more time on his projects then we have no problem with it. But it's a three part episode series. I need to watch Votoms anyway and others Sunrise mecha projects soon.

planetwarrior · 2010-06-26, 23:44

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Originally Posted by Highman

How can it be shonen unless it's science fiction shoujo. I said that, If he needs more time on his projects then we have no problem with it. But it's a three part episode series. I need to watch Votoms anyway and others Sunrise mecha projects soon.

Well, Sunrise is just hiding it's way when it still developing new anime series tho.

Same_Shark · 2010-06-28, 00:55

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Originally Posted by Highman

How can it be shonen unless it's science fiction shoujo. I said that, If he needs more time on his projects then we have no problem with it. But it's a three part episode series. I need to watch Votoms anyway and others Sunrise mecha projects soon.

The Votoms that Hisayuki is working on is an actual series, not an OVA. Atleast that's what the original report stated.

Highman · 2010-06-28, 05:33

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Originally Posted by Same_Shark

The Votoms that Hisayuki is working on is an actual series, not an OVA. Atleast that's what the original report stated.

Yeah that what I'm talking about in the first place!

Highman · 2010-07-31, 23:06

Mai Otome Sifr has been licensed by Bandai Entertainment and I expect more dull dubbing from this soon and yes it's a must be for me.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...sora-kake-girl

Baru · 2010-08-04, 13:18

As someone who liked the dubs for HiME and Otome, I'd like it if they used the same dubbing studio for this.

Highman · 2010-08-04, 15:09

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Originally Posted by Baru

As someone who liked the dubs for HiME and Otome, I'd like it if they used the same dubbing studio for this.

Bluewater dubbing studios and credit have sup-par to great lately for the last couple years. I would flat out tell you they still have good vocal range, If they become very serious about it instead of being sup-par. One of the best VA's out of the studio was Carol Anne Day (Mai Tokiha), Mariette Slutyer (Midori Suiguira) and Morgan Partridge (Akane Higurashi) and I hope they do more vocal range work than for the Mai-franchise. Right now, Californians and Texans VA's are fuckin stacked, for the Canadian's they are so-so because of voice over rust work. For the upcoming Sifr series, whoever dubs this would be a instant buyer.

Kaijo · 2010-08-04, 19:13

Maybe I'm more old fashioned, but I prefer subs, heh. Skip the dubbing, just sub it and release. Spare the expense so the DVD is cheaper. But like that would ever happen, haha.

I have been having a dub vs. sub argument with a friend of mine, as he prefers dubs and me subs. I dunno, I'm just more used to the inflections and emotions in a Japanese voice now, that most dubs come across as "wooden" to me. Not as much emotion.

And you get things that just don't make sense in dubs, like near the end of Otome, when they refer to "Mai Hime." Obviously, in Japanese this works with both the language (referring to Mai as a princess) and also as an allusion to the first series. But saying "Mai Hime" in English doesn't make sense, because Himes aren't really referred to at all, and it totally lacks the "princess" angle.

Highman · 2010-08-04, 22:09

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Originally Posted by Kaijo

Maybe I'm more old fashioned, but I prefer subs, heh. Skip the dubbing, just sub it and release. Spare the expense so the DVD is cheaper. But like that would ever happen, haha.

I have been having a dub vs. sub argument with a friend of mine, as he prefers dubs and me subs. I dunno, I'm just more used to the inflections and emotions in a Japanese voice now, that most dubs come across as "wooden" to me. Not as much emotion.

And you get things that just don't make sense in dubs, like near the end of Otome, when they refer to "Mai Hime." Obviously, in Japanese this works with both the language (referring to Mai as a princess) and also as an allusion to the first series. But saying "Mai Hime" in English doesn't make sense, because Himes aren't really referred to at all, and it totally lacks the "princess" angle.

Yeah you are right eventually because everyone bitched alot when they chose Shizuru accent instead figuring out on learning Kyoto accent they just give an Southern Belle or Texan voice and anime fans went crazy over that issue. I would not trust Bluewater (Ocean Group) to do it nor Bandai Entertainment to take that kind of licensing for the Mai-franchise. If they do Sifr, possibly? Then I would buy but not hear the dubs. Even the dialogue and writing was so bad that I can't even comprehend and confusing at the least. But I found good VA's but and possibly Golden Gems that could be so awesome.

They are alot of dubs that are superior like Outlaw Star,Cowboy Bebop, Fullmetal Alchemist and alot more, so don't count out on dubs yet. But I don't want Bluewater doing the Otome prequel nor the upcoming saga, but for the Golden Gems, I chose from my earlier post to come and get into a better dubbing studio than Ocean Group period.

Kaijo · 2010-08-04, 23:05

Yeah, a lot of studios use a southern accent for Kyoto accents; I find it annoying.

And I do have dubs I like; Cowboy Bebop was done well, and El Hazard's dub was a bit better than the sub voices. Slayers, I can go either way on.

The main issue is that Japanese VA's train heavily for the roles, and there is fierce competition. Western VA's don't have the same... glamor, so there's not as much emphasis on finding really good ones. In a lot of cases, they have the remixing guy supply a voice, or grab the janitor; anything to shave some cost.

So while English dubs can be good, on the average, I find the Japanese voices to be superior. Plus, it helps me better understand a foreign culture and begin to learn some Japanese myself. Just from listening to anime, I can already understand and speak several dozen words, phrases, and sentences, heh.

Baru · 2010-08-04, 23:25

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Originally Posted by Kaijo

Western VA's don't have the same... glamor, so there's not as much emphasis on finding really good ones. In a lot of cases, they have the remixing guy supply a voice, or grab the janitor; anything to shave some cost.

No, this isn't true... typically voice actors in anime are trained stage actors, or professional voice-over workers... they don't produce these as cheaply as you make it sound...
There is competition in US dubbing too. There are auditions, and people get casted in roles if the directors find them suitable.

Highman · 2010-08-05, 02:26

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No, this isn't true... typically voice actors in anime are trained stage actors, or professional voice-over workers... they don't produce these as cheaply as you make it sound...
There is competition in US dubbing too. There are auditions, and people get casted in roles if the directors find them suitable.

Yes it is competition in dubbing alot of rivalries in the VA's department from Vic "Mangina" Mignogna versus Travis Willingham, they never talk to each so that means, they hate each others guts no matter what. Just like Japanese and American VA's they have a system of what rivalry and situations.

To Kaijo, it doesn't matter what is superior on what dialogue you like, it seems your just being a idiot for saying those kinds things. Superior is inferior and the truth they will be bad subs and dubs overall. Your just jumping the gun like everyone and it sickens me man.

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Highman Keep Pounding and Destroy Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Seminole State Age: 36	Mai Otome Sifr has been licensed by Bandai Entertainment and I expect more dull dubbing from this soon and yes it's a must be for me. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...sora-kake-girl

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Baru Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Your Mind Age: 32	As someone who liked the dubs for HiME and Otome, I'd like it if they used the same dubbing studio for this.

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Kaijo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.	Maybe I'm more old fashioned, but I prefer subs, heh. Skip the dubbing, just sub it and release. Spare the expense so the DVD is cheaper. But like that would ever happen, haha. I have been having a dub vs. sub argument with a friend of mine, as he prefers dubs and me subs. I dunno, I'm just more used to the inflections and emotions in a Japanese voice now, that most dubs come across as "wooden" to me. Not as much emotion. And you get things that just don't make sense in dubs, like near the end of Otome, when they refer to "Mai Hime." Obviously, in Japanese this works with both the language (referring to Mai as a princess) and also as an allusion to the first series. But saying "Mai Hime" in English doesn't make sense, because Himes aren't really referred to at all, and it totally lacks the "princess" angle.

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Kaijo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.	Yeah, a lot of studios use a southern accent for Kyoto accents; I find it annoying. And I do have dubs I like; Cowboy Bebop was done well, and El Hazard's dub was a bit better than the sub voices. Slayers, I can go either way on. The main issue is that Japanese VA's train heavily for the roles, and there is fierce competition. Western VA's don't have the same... glamor, so there's not as much emphasis on finding really good ones. In a lot of cases, they have the remixing guy supply a voice, or grab the janitor; anything to shave some cost. So while English dubs can be good, on the average, I find the Japanese voices to be superior. Plus, it helps me better understand a foreign culture and begin to learn some Japanese myself. Just from listening to anime, I can already understand and speak several dozen words, phrases, and sentences, heh.