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For me could exist a version of Issei that can be born with True Longinus and Cao Cao's talent but however is still a pervert and he is called the Oppai Hero Of The Holy Spear |
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2021-12-28, 06:01 | Link #7723 |
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Ishibumi might come up with a lot of timelines to joke with but right now if you don't mind I'd rather we get back to talking seriously about the main conversation topic of this thread.
There is a character that I believe to which I think we should pay more attention because his Longinus in the fight against Eevie could really come in handy. I'm speaking about Magnum Rose. This Longinus of this guy can control iron and electronic device again a army which its members are all living machine could realy be something broken. It may can be that his BXB could allow to him to use many kinds of metal and technology together for creating a armor that have many weapons. |
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Well, Ishibumi is a fan of the MCU so I would think the temptation of making Magnus' Balance Breaker similar to that of Iron Man's to be too much to resist.
And I believe he said he designed Magnus after flying superheroes in Marvel comics. |
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2021-12-28, 09:11 | Link #7726 | ||
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Well however I believe that in every possibile timeline Issei still take powers for the breast. Honestly I believe that could exist some timeline when the Longinus are mecha and a another when instead the characters are supeheroes motorcyclists like the Kamen Rider. Quote:
Now I wonder if could be possibile that when Issei and Vali can have their lost power ups Ddraig and Albion too could have something like trasformation that the result of the two of them being influenced by the powers of their hosts' bodies. Ddraig could get 4 wings like the GR and crimson and black armor with cannons in the wings and one in the chest that could allow to him to use his own version of the Infinity Blaster and Longinus Smasher. Albion from his natural white color could becoming silver and get a more draconic humanoid appearance with 12 wings like Vali DXD L with the ability of using the demonic energy of Lucifer's clan and his own version of Satan Lucifer Smasher. I know that what I wrote about Ddraig and Albion could be too much crazy but who knows what Ishibumi could do in future? Last edited by Hyodou True DXD; 2021-12-28 at 12:43. |
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2021-12-28, 14:44 | Link #7727 |
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^Yeah, Magnus could end up as a combination of Magneto and Iron Man (or at least, their basic abilities). I'd think Ishibumi would limit his effectiveness against the Evies even if he should theoretically hard-counter most of them — probably up to God-class. Unknown Dictator looks like a low-tier Longinus to me, similar to Regulus Nemea and Absolute Demise imo.
What I'm curious about is whether Leonardo can create anti-monsters for the Evies. It's technically possible since Annihilation Maker is dependent on the user's imagination. Also, I am wondering, how much trouble could Leonardo give Super Devils like Rizevim/Verrine with his Balance Breaker? I don't think Ishibumi will give Ddraig and Albion mecha abilities. Most likely, Issei and Vali will simply be able to manifest them for long periods of time so they can train to keep up with Crom. |
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About if he could give trouble or not again Super Devils I said maybe, the High Tier Longinus have the potentional of destroy the planet so if Leonardo fully mastered his Longinus he could even create a monster that can kill some Top 10 and only the strongest members of the Top 10 could fight. Quote:
But unfortunately for my more whimsical and imaginative side I know that could be realy few chances that this happens However maybe it can be like you said, Issei and Vali will get the power of summoning Ddraig and Albion for much more time and so they could increase their powers... Who knows if boost and divide are the result of they 2 try to defeat and surpass each others maybe thanks some tranings under perhaps the Crom's guindance they will even get some other ability useful for the battle or their will just enhanced their the moves that they have sealed because again the Eevie there may be a situation where they really need to use them. |
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2021-12-30, 06:29 | Link #7729 | ||
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He could probably make a monster that's at least Chief God-class, though. But the real scary thing is how he can make regenerating anti-monsters for specific races, so I believe he can take on a Super Devil if he masters his Longinus. I mean, imagine dozens/hundreds of monsters with a strong resistance to your abilities, regeneration, and the ability to target your weaknesses as well. Ishibumi has definitely written him out of the plot since Volume 12, lol. But I do agree that only the Top 10 characters can take on a peak Leonardo (that has mastered his ability). Quote:
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Issei thanks Ophis, Ryuuuteimaru and the Heavenly Breast? Vali thanks Ophis, Lilith(Mothers of Devils) and the Malebranche? |
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2021-12-30, 07:47 | Link #7731 | |
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2021-12-30, 08:42 | Link #7732 | |
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Who knows given the fact that this is the era when the world have to face a army invasion of extra-dimensional beings the moment when all the Longinus will be fully mastered may have finally come. BG and DD are mid-tier when AM and DL are high tier, I think Azazel speaking about that BG and DD are superior in Raw Power just meant they are Longinus better suited for direct combat. However both Issei and Vali have not fully mastered their Longinus, they reached the Heavenly Dragon Class because Ophis not because they have learn of use the full power of Ddraig and Albion. I think that if Issei unlock the full power of his 8 mutation pieces the CXC could reach its full potentional of alternative to JD, so maybe reach the Heavenly Dragon Class when in future perhaps after a time skip Issei having fully mastered the BG could use the full power of Ddraig just with the BXB. |
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2021-12-30, 11:17 | Link #7733 | |
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Azazel was speaking about Annihilation Maker and Dimension Lost at their full potential. As he said, Dimension Lost can teleport an entire country into the Dimensional Gap but none of its previous users had reached that level yet. So if he explicitly says Annihilation Maker is not as powerful as BG and DD, then he should be correct. Dimension Lost doesn't have attack power, so it can never be ahead of even Regulus Nemea in raw power. If someone can pull it beyond its potential, then sure, it might create a monster stronger than Ddraig and Albion. But that's mere speculation. The top-tier Longinus are those Sacred Gears that can affect the world based on the effects they can cause, not necessarily because they have the highest raw power. As of now, the only Sacred Gear with higher raw power potential than BG and DD is Star Buster Star Blaster. |
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Maybe Leonardo could creating something that is not superior to them in Raw power but have some ability that make it a thread greater than them. Quote:
The storm that Zenith Tempest can creating could make more damage than the tsunami that Nereid Kyrie could unleashed but Nereid Kyrie could control dragons, perhaps even Ophis and the GR... Quote:
This guy without using a BXB have show to have the fire power of Issei Pseudo DXD, he have lost again Sairoarg but however he has defeat some gods in the Azazel Cup. A fully mastered Star Buster Star Blaster could cause mountains and cities to sink into the ground with some slashes in the ground, with a fire shoot at the bottom of the ocean could cause earthquakes, tsunamis and volcanic eruptions at the same time and perhaps even a cataclysm of planetary scale if its shoot will be able to make their way through the terrestrial mantle and reaching the core. |
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I would assume Ingvild would also be able to create God-class water dragons, or at least multiple Maou-class dragons at some point. Quote:
He doesn't have the firepower of Pseudo DxD though; he would need his Balance Breaker for that. His charged shots can only defeat non-battle type Gods (as stated in V25 and Shin DxD 2), whereas Infinity Blaster is stated to be a concern for everyone in the tournament including the high-ranking Gods. Shooting Star is currently not a threat to them. There's also the fact that BtB Sairaorg matched his charged shot with a punch; keep in mind that Sairaorg's punches were compared to Crimson Blaster in strength. Pseudo DxD is ridiculously stronger than that. |
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About Ingvild I think that in her BXB she could reach God Class, maybe she could have some kind of Maoufication in future. In a previous post of mine I have wrote some theories about the ability Ingvild could have in her BXB and in her possibile Maoufication: Quote:
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I would say she should also be able to manifest weaker water creatures like Tefarme could. I believe Zero said Tefarme could sink cities without a large water source available (since the Underworld doesn't have large water bodies), so Ingvild should be able to sink countries underwater with her Balance Breaker. Quote:
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BtB Sairaorg is barely God-class and his punches are slightly superior to Crimson Blaster. So Pseudo DxD Issei would legit just punch away Shooting Star's attacks and wouldn't need Infinity Blaster to match him. Just imagine BtB Sairaorg trying to defeat DxD Issei or DxD Vali. The gap is immense. Quote:
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I don't know if it was affirmed that Shigune have a attack that surpass Tobio and Laviana but her Sacred Gear is realy something that we could consider a future Longinus. Quote:
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It is possibile that the previous wielder of the BG and DD they might have had a chance to harness the full power of Ddraig and Albion if they mastered the BG and DD only they haven't lived long enough to do so. Who don't know how strong could be the base of Adult Issei and Adult Vali after a time-skip. |
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Most likely. Ishibumi would probably want to make Sairaorg look a bit good before going out. Quote:
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