High School DxD Light Novel - Character power-ups, match-ups, and ratings

[Itsmepatrick]

It'll be more realistic if Sairaorg will get an alternative form of BtB .

[kiiro94]

Originally Posted by B214

The idea of Indra being 4x Maou is kinda doubtful from start. Cause it's saying the Yondai Maou working together to rival him. If Kiba and Gasper work together to defeat Ise would it mean that Ise is just 2* stronger than them individually?

But that is how it is. Indra is 4 times stronger than a Satan Class. Satan Class already can clash with Gods, doesnt matter if they are the weakest Gods.

In the religion of the Bible, Maou and God of Bible has always been mentioned together and has always been balanced. So to balance God they needed 4 Satan's class.

I think Indra should also be stronger, but not by far. Besides, it aint the same being 4 times stronger than needing 4 maous to fight him, being 4 times stronger should mean he can 1 shot any of them, so it aint bad saying he is 4 times stronger.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by kiiro94

But that is how it is. Indra is 4 times stronger than a Satan Class. Satan Class already can clash with Gods, doesnt matter if they are the weakest Gods.

In the religion of the Bible, Maou and God of Bible has always been mentioned together and has always been balanced. So to balance God they needed 4 Satan's class.

I think Indra should also be stronger, but not by far. Besides, it aint the same being 4 times stronger than needing 4 maous to fight him, being 4 times stronger should mean he can 1 shot any of them, so it aint bad saying he is 4 times stronger.

God and the Devil have never at any point been "balanced". In actual Christianity God is literally all-powerful while the Devil is just one of his creations. He can't actually oppose God in any meaningful way, God allows him to tempt humanity as part of free will.

Even in DxD GoB was blatantly more powerful than any of the Maou, he was able to seal Trihexia alone somehow lol

[kiiro94]

Originally Posted by XFire

God and the Devil have never at any point been "balanced". In actual Christianity God is literally all-powerful while the Devil is just one of his creations. He can't actually oppose God in any meaningful way, God allows him to tempt humanity as part of free will.

Even in DxD GoB was blatantly more powerful than any of the Maou, he was able to seal Trihexia alone somehow lol

Well, in the war they were balanced. Each time they are mentioned, they are always put together.

And Rossweisse also did a seal for Trihexa. God of the bible just had great abilities to seal him.

And yeah, God of Bible > Maou. I meant, he is also 4 times stronger than a Satan Class, aka an Ultimate God Tier just as Indra, said by Azazel in volume 9. And that is an another reference of God of Bible being 4 times stronger.

[zarmag]

Indra is one of the top ten strongest beings.... his power matches matches four satan-class devils only..... although Sirzechs and Ajuka are super devils and also part of the top ten strongest..

[zarmag]

some fans expect Sairaorg will lose and next will be Indra vs Ise..... but I want Sairaorg to win against a god-class... i hope he gets a power up like Vali and Ise....then again considering their is an invaders from another world they need all the power up they can get....

[kiiro94]

Its been a long time since I read the novels. What is the last novel?

[zarmag]

last volume of the main storyline is Shin Highschool DxD vol. 4 and short stories Volume DX7.... according to the fans the author is taking a rest due to his health and also they said around 2023 he'll release Shin vol.5 or another short stories.

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Sairaorg does need to fill the power gap. Just bridge it enough that Indra can’t fight Issei at full power. A culmination of Issei and Sairaorg being able to beat one of the best. Issei beats him. Sairaorg sets the stage.

The problem is technically Sairaorg can’t even got near Indra before to being eliminated with 1-2 shots. His teammates would be eliminated pretty fast without being able to do something.

Anyway Issei should be able to beat Indra only because weakened? If he can’t beat him at full force, how can Issei face up stronger opponents who are coming?

[B214]

Originally Posted by Giuseppe1234

The problem is technically Sairaorg can’t even got near Indra before to being eliminated with 1-2 shots. His teammates would be eliminated pretty fast without being able to do something.

Anyway Issei should be able to beat Indra only because weakened? If he can’t beat him at full force, how can Issei face up stronger opponents who are coming?

Well if Ise can't beat Hades alone, how do you suppose he can beat Indra with his allies who are probably all God-class beings?
And it's not like Ise is going to fight a war alone nor can he win it alone. If he can, he would be soloing 666 now not Azazel, Sirzechs and many others.
Ise can't be the only one to grow stronger, all his allies/peers need to get stronger too if they want to win against their eventual enemy.

[zarmag]

Originally Posted by B214

Well if Ise can't beat Hades alone, how do you suppose he can beat Indra with his allies who are probably all God-class beings?
And it's not like Ise is going to fight a war alone nor can he win it alone. If he can, he would be soloing 666 now not Azazel, Sirzechs and many others.
Ise can't be the only one to grow stronger, all his allies/peers need to get stronger too if they want to win against their eventual enemy.

in order for Sairaorg have a high chance of winning against Indra's team:
- His 'Breakdown the Beast' needs to extends its time limit and without its life threatening effects or maybe find a higher alternate form.
- Sacred Gear users in his peerage need a balance breakers.
- recruit strong individuals that can take on gods.
- he still has 1 mutation pawn piece so he might invite Shooting Star to join his peerage or team whichever you prefer.

[zarmag]

As for the coming match of Issei's Team and Emperor Belial's Team. We know Belial's team keep winning due to their knowledge and experience of the rating game and the Emperor's strength is genuine considering his the Ultimate-class devil among Ultimate-class devil. His power might match Issei a super devil or he might recruit someone to fight against Issei. (My bet will be Crom Crauch considering he wanted to fight Issei when he awakens Great Red's power in him which is True DXD G form.)

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by B214

Well if Ise can't beat Hades alone, how do you suppose he can beat Indra with his allies who are probably all God-class beings?
And it's not like Ise is going to fight a war alone nor can he win it alone. If he can, he would be soloing 666 now not Azazel, Sirzechs and many others.
Ise can't be the only one to grow stronger, all his allies/peers need to get stronger too if they want to win against their eventual enemy.

It’s not the same thing, Issei until now could not release completely the power of DxD’s form (in a death match even P DxD would beat Hades) and now he has the possibility to fight even Indra at full power due to T DxD (perfect match to test the limit of the form).

Issei always defeated stronger opponents than him relying on himself and his power, for which reason now he should let beat a weakened opponent that’s even more absurd because Indra can’t be weakened by Sairaorg.

He will be one of the main force during the war, but it’s not like now he will win against stronger opponents because someone else weakened them.

Everyone is becoming stronger, but following logic, otherwise let’s make everyone top 10 level even if they never showed the potential or had it for the plot.

If you don’t include Regalzeva and his two strongest opponents DxD world is enough powerful to fight the current invasion. And the only ones with the potential to fight Dragon-God tier opponents are Issei, Vali and Balberith with Shiva being able to put a decent fight, but not defeating.

So I don’t see the urgency to make everyone immediately more powerful when the weakest servants of ExE are Dragon-king level, something easy to defeat for many of DxD team

[zarmag]

An invasion is coming to their world. So they need all the powerup or uprades they can get. I won't be surprise that Shiva will assist Sairaorg's powerup like Indra did to Issei's. Shiva acknowledge his fist are pure destruction and he might know about the upcoming invasion so it make sense that he'll help him.

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by zarmag

An invasion is coming to their world. So they need all the powerup or uprades they can get. I won't be surprise that Shiva will assist Sairaorg's powerup like Indra did to Issei's. Shiva acknowledge his fist are pure destruction and he might know about the upcoming invasion so it make sense that he'll help him.

But there is a fundamental difference between Sairaorg and Issei: the second one had since the beginning the potential to be so powerful and reach such level. Indra helped Issei to hold that power for longer time, he didn’t give the power to be strong.

Sairaorg unless illogical power up has reached his potential: he can already release all the power of the Longinus reaching Over-maou class (unless his base become stronger, but it didn’t since his introduction). At beast he can achieve a form as powerful as the other one without high risks and a high consume of stamina, but the power would be always the same

It’s not like now Saji becomes heavenly dragon level because there is the invasion and everyone need to be stronger.

[zarmag]

Originally Posted by Giuseppe1234

But there is a fundamental difference between Sairaorg and Issei: the second one had since the beginning the potential to be so powerful and reach such level. Indra helped Issei to hold that power for longer time, he didn’t give the power to be strong.

Sairaorg unless illogical power up has reached his potential: he can already release all the power of the Longinus reaching Over-maou class (unless his base become stronger, but it didn’t since his introduction). At beast he can achieve a form as powerful as the other one without high risks and a high consume of stamina, but the power would be always the same

It’s not like now Saji becomes heavenly dragon level because there is the invasion and everyone need to be stronger.

speaking of Saji that depends his feelings and determination. Sacred Gear tend to evolve into new Longinus which is abnormal in the sacred gear system

[Xuanwu]

Any more power-ups for Sairaorg would mean he becomes Transcendental-class, technically. Not sure Ishi wants that.

[zarmag]

In EX novel... Issei's kids and adult Gasper travel from the future to save their mother Asia and deliver a message to Azazel. They said that they have seven super devils(Ajuka included and Sirzechs excluded due to him fighting Trihexia in the barrier.) in the future. Considering time paradox Azazel mention that the invasion came early i won't be surprise that characters get more powerups to fight the invasion.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by zarmag

In EX novel... Issei's kids and adult Gasper travel from the future to save their mother Asia and deliver a message to Azazel. They said that they have seven super devils(Ajuka included and Sirzechs excluded due to him fighting Trihexia in the barrier.) in the future. Considering time paradox Azazel mention that the invasion came early i won't be surprise that characters get more powerups to fight the invasion.

And we only know 4 of them: Ajuka, Issei, Vali, and Gasper. The time paradox isn’t limiting it to just 3 more either.

[Xuanwu]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

And we only know 4 of them: Ajuka, Issei, Vali, and Gasper. The time paradox isn’t limiting it to just 3 more either.

Technically, those three spots would be explained by Millicas, Bal and Verrine.

But yeah, the paradox might change some things.