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Random32 · 2010-08-14, 21:56

if you have a problem, complain
every chain has an 800 number
call it
free bag of doritos if something was wrong with your previous bag, gamestop/etc should provide some compensation, with enough complaints they might actually fire some of those dicks

personally, I like buying my games online. Steam ftw.
bypasses the dicks behind the counters completely

Alchemist007 · 2010-08-14, 23:52

Ironically, the only times I've gotten games from stores it's been at Best Buy, every other time has pretty much been Steam for me. The last time I bought something from EB Games...it was still called EBX

JagdPanther · 2010-08-15, 14:44

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Originally Posted by Alchemist007

Ironically, the only times I've gotten games from stores it's been at Best Buy, every other time has pretty much been Steam for me. The last time I bought something from EB Games...it was still called EBX

We're going old-school there. Jeez.

I remember when Electronics Boutique (when it was still called that) actually had more than just games. It actually legitimately sold computer parts...

Hooves · 2010-08-15, 21:42

Buying games from Steam seems to be the only good way for me right now to avoid having to deal with ever countering a clerk that says something strange to me when I'm buying something "anime" related. But Steam seems to be getting more and more based on games made in the U.S so I will need to find another source.

Kudryavka · 2010-08-15, 22:00

Yeah, believe it or not, anime still isn't very popular in NA, unless a series can break through the NAmerican culture (?) barrier; even those that do, like Sailor Moon and stuff, are seen as weird by non-enthusiasts.

Sankaku is fun to read (when the porn doesn't reach a vomit inducing level), but it's all shock articles. Fun to imagine, "Hey, what if that were the only side of the story like Sankaku claims?", but when it comes to business, no.

synaesthetic · 2010-08-16, 11:47

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Originally Posted by Hooves

Buying games from Steam seems to be the only good way for me right now to avoid having to deal with ever countering a clerk that says something strange to me when I'm buying something "anime" related. But Steam seems to be getting more and more based on games made in the U.S so I will need to find another source.

Steam has always been a service for games made in the US. It's owned by Valve, an American game developer.

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Originally Posted by JagdPanther

We're going old-school there. Jeez.

I remember when Electronics Boutique (when it was still called that) actually had more than just games. It actually legitimately sold computer parts...

Are you really 22?

I remember the last time I saw an Electronics Boutique (that actually sold components) was in a mall in Capitola in Santa Cruz and I think I was about six or seven years old!

Hooves · 2010-08-16, 12:22

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Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Steam has always been a service for games made in the US. It's owned by Valve, an American game developer.

It generally held "Some" games that were "anime" but now they are 100% U.S so trying to find a different source to look for anime games is gonna be quite hard for me since I have no clue where to look for in stores around me.

technomo12 · 2010-08-16, 12:31

sigh no wonder aliens dont like us we are totally rude to stuff we dont know

Kudryavka · 2010-08-16, 15:21

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Originally Posted by technomo12

sigh no wonder aliens dont like us we are totally rude to stuff we dont know

It's our nature, take caution to things we don't know since they may hurt us. I think that we should lower our shields when it comes to other humans, though.

Kameruka · 2010-08-16, 18:56

I think this thread should be in games section than here...

Ahhh the Americans. The only interested in FPS than anything else. In the past they made lots of RTS games but today there's very few of them. With exceptions of Blizzard's Starcraft and Warcraft series, the recent RTS games get poor reception among American critics such as Dawn of War 2 and Red Alert 3. Only some European companies still making some new RTS titles even though most of them may fail in North American markets. Hell the Russians even try to compete with the Americans in making of better FPS games like Metro 2033, much like their version of Fallout 3 minus the RPG elements. I blamed Modern Warfare series because they are the reason why there are too many FPS games in NA markets now.

I'm not a big fan of RTS genre but I used it as a measuring pole to see what's going on NA game industry.

JagdPanther · 2010-08-16, 22:53

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Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Are you really 22?

I remember the last time I saw an Electronics Boutique (that actually sold components) was in a mall in Capitola in Santa Cruz and I think I was about six or seven years old!

The last time I remember seeing components at an Electronics Boutique was when I was about 7 or 8 when I was living in Tallahassee, Florida. Governor's Square Mall's Electronics Boutique, I believe.

Random32 · 2010-08-17, 02:12

People once went to EB for computer parts? Thats like actually buying a radio from Radio Shack.

I think increase of consoles and the decrease of PC is the cause of fewer RTS's. RTS games generally are more complex and are much better played keyboard+mouse, thus are less suitable for the console controller, though controllers aren't as accurate as mice, the FPS genre is still suitable for console controllers.

MakubeX2 · 2010-08-17, 07:03

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Originally Posted by Komari

Yeah, believe it or not, anime still isn't very popular in NA, unless a series can break through the NAmerican culture (?) barrier; even those that do, like Sailor Moon and stuff, are seen as weird by non-enthusiasts.

It isn't even mainstream in it's homeground. There's a reason for the logic behind the pricing. Even a JAV DVD is cheaper by 50%-70%.

SaintessHeart · 2010-08-17, 07:17

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Originally Posted by MakubeX2

It isn't even mainstream in it's homeground. There's a reason for the logic behind the pricing. Even a JAV DVD is cheaper by 50%-70%.

What? What about a Japanese AV DVD? Why use that comparison! You poured the gutter content into my innocent head!

I don't see a lack of demand for it, nor a shortage of supply, so why is the price so much higher than AV-DVDs?

MakubeX2 · 2010-08-17, 07:28

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Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

I don't see a lack of demand for it, nor a shortage of supply, so why is the price so much higher than AV-DVDs?

Look at the average SRP of any new released anime game title. They are usually around 6000 yen. A new JAV dvd cost about 3000 yen.

The publisher know that there's a demand for it in a niched market. An....Otaku mentality of not really minding footing out the price just to own something. So the publisher might as well maximise their profit.

Same logic behind the pricing of domestic Japanese Anime DVD released actually. 6000 yen for an hour's worth of animation when 2 hours worth of JAV cost 50% less.

synaesthetic · 2010-08-17, 10:55

Holy crap, 6000 yen for a VN? Exchange rates being what they are... that's close to eighty bucks.

I get annoyed paying the usual US $50 for a brand new big-budget title...

Kudryavka · 2010-08-17, 15:55

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Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Holy crap, 6000 yen for a VN? Exchange rates being what they are... that's close to eighty bucks.

I get annoyed paying the usual US $50 for a brand new big-budget title...

6000 yen is cheap for a VN, is that for a brand new game? They're usually ~9000 yen when they first hit store shelves.

Not to synae, but is it fair to compare VNs and mainstream stuff like Nintendo? Nintendo has guaranteed sales, so they can knock their prices down significantly, but VN companies don't know how much they'll sell, and again they're selling to otaku, some of the most devoted enthusiasts I've ever seen. Wouldn't mind plunking down $100 for a VN, no matter their financial status.

Sheba · 2010-08-17, 16:00

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Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Holy crap, 6000 yen for a VN? Exchange rates being what they are... that's close to eighty bucks.

I get annoyed paying the usual US $50 for a brand new big-budget title...

Blockbusters gets as close to the 60 euros mark here. Let's NOT talk about the special or the collector packs that can skyrocket to 100 euros (135 euros for SCII: Wings of Liberty). To that point, I go "F*ck the shit". I'd rather buy a second hand retro game for 10 euros and invite my friends to eat a treat of okonomiyaki with takoyaki and koroke for that price.

Random32 · 2010-08-17, 23:58

most VN's target audience don't seem to care about the price. their prices tend reflect that fact.

on the topic of pricing. are you europeans pissed off? it seems like stuff sells for the same amount of Euros as Dollars, totally ignoring the conversion rate.

synaesthetic · 2010-08-18, 00:02

Yeah, I know how ridiculous game prices are in Europe. Fortunately for us Yankees, they aren't so bad--and if you wait a little while, the price comes down. It's usually a good idea to wait anyway these days since everything is basically released when it's still in beta. Let the patches come out before buying and getting frustrated.

I almost never buy games on release day and I usually wait the requisite number of months for the game to drop to $30 (which happens pretty fast with games on Steam, if they're not huge sellers). Unless it's something I'm really, really wanting--like Fallout: New Vegas, which I have preordered.

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synaesthetic blinded by blood Author Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oakland, CA Age: 39	Holy crap, 6000 yen for a VN? Exchange rates being what they are... that's close to eighty bucks. I get annoyed paying the usual US $50 for a brand new big-budget title... __________________ Indie science fiction author and all-around weirdo: Check out my original fiction here! Read an excerpt from my sci-fi novel Binary System!

2010-08-18, 00:02	Link #100
synaesthetic blinded by blood Author Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oakland, CA Age: 39	Yeah, I know how ridiculous game prices are in Europe. Fortunately for us Yankees, they aren't so bad--and if you wait a little while, the price comes down. It's usually a good idea to wait anyway these days since everything is basically released when it's still in beta. Let the patches come out before buying and getting frustrated. I almost never buy games on release day and I usually wait the requisite number of months for the game to drop to $30 (which happens pretty fast with games on Steam, if they're not huge sellers). Unless it's something I'm really, really wanting--like Fallout: New Vegas, which I have preordered. __________________ Indie science fiction author and all-around weirdo: Check out my original fiction here! Read an excerpt from my sci-fi novel Binary System!

2010-08-14, 21:56	Link #81
Random32 Also a Lolicon Join Date: Apr 2010	if you have a problem, complain every chain has an 800 number call it free bag of doritos if something was wrong with your previous bag, gamestop/etc should provide some compensation, with enough complaints they might actually fire some of those dicks personally, I like buying my games online. Steam ftw. bypasses the dicks behind the counters completely

2010-08-15, 21:42	Link #84
Hooves ~Official Slacker~ Author Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Xanadu Age: 29	Buying games from Steam seems to be the only good way for me right now to avoid having to deal with ever countering a clerk that says something strange to me when I'm buying something "anime" related. But Steam seems to be getting more and more based on games made in the U.S so I will need to find another source.

2010-08-15, 22:00	Link #85
Kudryavka Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	Yeah, believe it or not, anime still isn't very popular in NA, unless a series can break through the NAmerican culture (?) barrier; even those that do, like Sailor Moon and stuff, are seen as weird by non-enthusiasts. Sankaku is fun to read (when the porn doesn't reach a vomit inducing level), but it's all shock articles. Fun to imagine, "Hey, what if that were the only side of the story like Sankaku claims?", but when it comes to business, no.

2010-08-16, 12:31	Link #88
technomo12 Wise Otaku Seeker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Philippines Age: 34	sigh no wonder aliens dont like us we are totally rude to stuff we dont know

2010-08-16, 18:56	Link #90
Kameruka Hen-Tie Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Hen-Tie pen	I think this thread should be in games section than here... Ahhh the Americans. The only interested in FPS than anything else. In the past they made lots of RTS games but today there's very few of them. With exceptions of Blizzard's Starcraft and Warcraft series, the recent RTS games get poor reception among American critics such as Dawn of War 2 and Red Alert 3. Only some European companies still making some new RTS titles even though most of them may fail in North American markets. Hell the Russians even try to compete with the Americans in making of better FPS games like Metro 2033, much like their version of Fallout 3 minus the RPG elements. I blamed Modern Warfare series because they are the reason why there are too many FPS games in NA markets now. I'm not a big fan of RTS genre but I used it as a measuring pole to see what's going on NA game industry.

2010-08-17, 02:12	Link #92
Random32 Also a Lolicon Join Date: Apr 2010	People once went to EB for computer parts? Thats like actually buying a radio from Radio Shack. I think increase of consoles and the decrease of PC is the cause of fewer RTS's. RTS games generally are more complex and are much better played keyboard+mouse, thus are less suitable for the console controller, though controllers aren't as accurate as mice, the FPS genre is still suitable for console controllers.

2010-08-17, 23:58	Link #99
Random32 Also a Lolicon Join Date: Apr 2010	most VN's target audience don't seem to care about the price. their prices tend reflect that fact. on the topic of pricing. are you europeans pissed off? it seems like stuff sells for the same amount of Euros as Dollars, totally ignoring the conversion rate.