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Old 2017-09-17, 06:20   Link #17101
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You have to agree that Reine IS technically Shido's mom even if it's not by blood. She totally acts the part obviously. Besides mother's love dominates the rest of the spirits' love since she gave Shido all her love into giving birth to him. Shido will probably reference that in the next volume.
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Old 2017-09-17, 06:25   Link #17102
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You have to agree that Reine IS technically Shido's mom even if it's not by blood. She totally acts the part obviously. Besides mother's love dominates the rest of the spirits' love since she gave Shido all her love into giving birth to him. Shido will probably reference that in the next volume.
The narrative paints her as both is the point I (and presumably Cyberdemon) are trying to make. She isn't just 'his mother' or 'his lover', but both.
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Old 2017-09-19, 08:09   Link #17103
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The narrative paints her as both is the point I (and presumably Cyberdemon) are trying to make. She isn't just 'his mother' or 'his lover', but both.
Just to make sure, they're not biologically related at all right? and she didn't literally go through all nine months to give birth to him? Also what's with the ring she wears?
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Old 2017-09-19, 08:47   Link #17104
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Just to make sure, they're not biologically related at all right? and she didn't literally go through all nine months to give birth to him? Also what's with the ring she wears?
1- no they not related
2- u can't really tell , he died 30 years aggo , took her around 15 years to give birth to him .
3 - ring ? it's just an accessory there's nothing about it , unless we get more info from vol 17.

P.S. so we know that even after shidou saved origami parents they still died a year later ?? then is this means even if shido never met Mio in the 1st place he will still die ?

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Old 2017-09-19, 10:50   Link #17105
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Just to make sure, they're not biologically related at all right? and she didn't literally go through all nine months to give birth to him? Also what's with the ring she wears?
No, no genes were involved.
But yes, she gave birth to him physically, from what we know. Don't know how long the gestation period was though, as the original Shidou died thirty years ago, but the current one was born sixteen-years-ago...so he obviously wasn't born nine months after he died, otherwise he'd be twenty-nine.
We don't know why there was such a long break, but its probably something to do with purifying the Sephirah.

As for the ring, its likely a gift from the original Shido.
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Old 2017-09-19, 11:48   Link #17106
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I wonder what will Shidou do now... F**k his lover/mother??
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Old 2017-09-19, 14:27   Link #17107
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I wonder what will Shidou do now... F**k his lover/mother??
hmm , she said he was her lover so they already did * that * if i not wrong
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Old 2017-09-19, 16:33   Link #17108
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hmm , she said he was her lover so they already did * that * if i not wrong
Lover can just mean boyfriend/girlfriend, you know.
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Old 2017-09-19, 20:01   Link #17109
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This reminds me of DC2 when the main character realises the secret of Sakura.
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Old 2017-09-19, 21:31   Link #17110
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This reminds me of DC2 when the main character realises the secret of Sakura.
Sakura was never a heroine he could get with though. Mio meanwhile has become a goal after what Shidou told Kurumi
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Old 2017-09-20, 17:40   Link #17111
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Question, is it me or going from the pics Elliot's the only one who looks his age?
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Old 2017-09-20, 17:41   Link #17112
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Question, is it me or going from the pics Elliot's the only one who looks his age?
not anymore lol

Woodman, Westcott, Ellen, and Karen are wizards from a hidden village. As seen from the spirits, having magic allows for aging to be stopped. This likely applies to mages like them as well. Mana is an artificial mage. So her aging was stopped years ago at the expense of her life span. Shidou was reborn so had to grow up all over again.
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Old 2017-09-21, 01:14   Link #17113
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Woodman, Westcott, Ellen, and Karen are wizards from a hidden village. As seen from the spirits, having magic allows for aging to be stopped. This likely applies to mages like them as well.
They definitely did it through magic before Mio was born, but IIRC, I think when Kurumi got the info about Mio from Nia, something mentioned they use realizers to do this.

Vol 17 does justify why they'd have to switch from magic to realizers though, its the fact its mentioned that they used "all" of the world's magic to create Mio, which is likely why Westcott made DEM Industries.

I think Maryoku even translates to "Magical power," further implying the realizers can generate artificial magic, and that all of the world's natural magic is stuck inside the Spirits.
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Old 2017-09-22, 06:17   Link #17114
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You know with those "Realizers" I really gotta wonder what's the exact difference between the Artificial Magic and the Natural Magic.

Is one more powerful than the other? Most of the AST look to me to depend on Magitek

Also, for a guy who's made probably billions I honestly gotta think that Westcott should have unintentionally revolutionized the setting by virtue of making "magic" possible and probably sellable outside of militaries even
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Old 2017-09-22, 09:04   Link #17115
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You know with those "Realizers" I really gotta wonder what's the exact difference between the Artificial Magic and the Natural Magic.

Is one more powerful than the other? Most of the AST look to me to depend on Magitek

Also, for a guy who's made probably billions I honestly gotta think that Westcott should have unintentionally revolutionized the setting by virtue of making "magic" possible and probably sellable outside of militaries even
The difference is that there is no natural magic left in the world. They used every last bit of it to create Mio. The Realizer allows them to generate artificial magic in its place.
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Old 2017-09-22, 14:15   Link #17116
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The difference is that there is no natural magic left in the world. They used every last bit of it to create Mio. The Realizer allows them to generate artificial magic in its place.
then how did they survive the spacequack of 30 years ago ? spoilers said that they used barriers but how come they can if there's no magic left ?
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Old 2017-09-22, 14:18   Link #17117
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The difference is that there is no natural magic left in the world. They used every last bit of it to create Mio. The Realizer allows them to generate artificial magic in its place.
Yeah, although they haven't mentioned if they can still use spells, the closest thing to that is Ellen mentioning she has an ability similar to Artemisia's trick that ripped the Beelzebub Crystal out of Nia.

Speaking of which, could Artemisia's unique territory be the result of possible wizard heritage? It wouldn't surprise me if some wizards avoided the massacre by simply not being there when it happened.

Plus, it helps Westcott's plans for a mage only world, because having only himself, Elliot, Ellen and Karen... why even make that plan if his world's population is only 4 people?

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then how did they survive the spacequack of 30 years ago ? spoilers said that they used barriers but how come they can if there's no magic left ?
Considering that this quake was giving birth to Mio, they likely used it as the quake was creating her. Perhaps the magic expanded, then retracted to compress itself into Mio's body. That, or they used the Spacequake itself to power it.

Then again, maybe they also had realizers aid them that had some natural magic stored for this one instance, after which they used it all up.
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Old 2017-09-22, 15:42   Link #17118
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then how did they survive the spacequack of 30 years ago ? spoilers said that they used barriers but how come they can if there's no magic left ?
perhaps they had a realizer or some prototype of it back them as a backup plan incase they needed to use magic themselves.
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Old 2017-09-24, 19:31   Link #17119
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Here's my WMG of DAL's ending.

All the Spirits and Shidou will lose their powers, they'll all live as normal humans from then on
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Old 2017-09-24, 23:09   Link #17120
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Here's my WMG of DAL's ending.

All the Spirits and Shidou will lose their powers, they'll all live as normal humans from then on
That's one likely ending, though the one hard part to explain in that is how would that fit for Mio? Will she be the only Spirit left, or will some kind of Deus Ex Machina transform her into a human so she doesn't outlive the others?
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