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Homura7 · 2016-10-10, 17:37

I fail to see how he fucked up in any way. The writer just took it from the end of SRD2 and carried to DR3 where all these loose ends concurred.

Whatever suits you better, we are not going to agree with each other no matter how much we insist with our view points, so I say we stop there.

charles883 · 2016-10-10, 19:54

Yeah, he just answered my question so don't jump the gun, Dengar. Also you seems that severely underestimated Hinata Hajime you are too blinded and narrow minded on DR 2 drama that you severly missing the point Dengar

Dengar · 2016-10-11, 02:07

The whole 'he's not being condescending' angle loses all meaning when you subsequently start calling people blind and narrow minded. Is that how you kids debate these days? By attacking the person rather than the argument they make?

Fact of the matter is he lied about people 'missing something' and I have every fucking right to correct him.

Oh, but because I am blind and narrow minded, all my arguments are invalid, right? 'Winning' arguments has never been easier.

charles883 · 2016-10-11, 03:49

I just ask question only and he just answer the question But you Dengar have to jump into my question with the insult. Hell he never mentioned you at all when he answered my question.

If not narrow minded sensitive then I don't know what it is

And you also seems conveniently erased your memory on Hajime vows to use all his ultimate talent to restored all class 77 in DR 2 ending just to attack Hope arc and seems wanted the ending where everyone dies

Why don't you become story writer or anime since you act as if youre greatest story writer in the world.

P.s
I think hope arc is the perfect ending for Danganronpa series

Dengar · 2016-10-11, 07:51

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Originally Posted by Alpha Knight

Even though Hajime made it quite clear at the end of DR2 he would focus all his strength in finding a way to wake them up, and considering he has got many talents, it was eventually bound to happen. A few people seemed to have missed that point.

He literally made this faulty claim, word for word, and I have every fucking right to defend myself against it.

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Originally Posted by charles883

Why don't you become story writer or anime since you act as if youre greatest story writer in the world.

And it appears now I have to defend myself against you as well: Prove that I actually said something anywhere that proves that I am the greatest storywriter in the world, otherwise you are full of shit.

Dengar · 2016-10-11, 07:53

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Originally Posted by Alpha Knight

Even though Hajime made it quite clear at the end of DR2 he would focus all his strength in finding a way to wake them up, and considering he has got many talents, it was eventually bound to happen. A few people seemed to have missed that point.

He literally made this faulty claim, word for word, and I have every fucking right to defend myself against it.

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Originally Posted by charles883

And you also seems conveniently erased your memory on Hajime vows to use all his ultimate talent to restored all class 77 in DR 2 ending just to attack Hope arc and seems wanted the ending where everyone dies

In fact, here you are making the same exact claim. Despite me literally refuting that claim and explaining why it isn't true. Why do you do this? I don't understand you. What is your problem?

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Originally Posted by charles883

Why don't you become story writer or anime since you act as if youre greatest story writer in the world.

And it appears now I have to defend myself against you as well: Prove that I actually said something anywhere that proves that I am the greatest storywriter in the world, otherwise you are full of shit.

I don't understand why you people have such a big problem with people having different opinions from you that you have to lie about them.

charles883 · 2016-10-11, 09:48

Well my problem with you is you keep insulting Dangan ronpa writer as if you are better writer than him and me when I ask the question, you just barge in my question and insult my answering party and those answering party don't even mentioned you at all. I watch DR2 ending and I even saw Hajime awoken and swear to restored his friend. Don't you seen ending or you miss out that. The way you says on Class 77 as if they should awaken at all or completely forgotten that Hajime is Ultimate talent. Do you even saw that he curb stomp Junko with little effort and that's one of his Ultimate talent ability.

Dengar · 2016-10-12, 15:58

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Originally Posted by charles883

Well my problem with you is you keep insulting Dangan ronpa writer as if you are better writer than him and me when I ask the question,

I so dislike repeating myself: Prove I actually did any of that. With quotes. And explanations.

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Originally Posted by charles883

you just barge in my question and insult

Who did I insult? How did I insult them?

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Originally Posted by charles883

my answering party and those answering party don't even mentioned you at all.

He said something faulty about a group of people that includes me. Therefore I corrected him. How many times do I have to repeat myself before you understand this? Do I need to quote the thing he said again?

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Originally Posted by charles883

I watch DR2 ending and I even saw Hajime awoken and swear to restored his friend. Don't you seen ending or you miss out that. The way you says on Class 77 as if they should awaken at all or completely forgotten that Hajime is Ultimate talent. Do you even saw that he curb stomp Junko with little effort and that's one of his Ultimate talent ability.

I am completely puzzled why you keep saying that I never saw any of these things, despite me saying like five times in the past two pages of this topic, that I in fact, did see these things.

This is so frustrating. Do you have problems understanding English or something? I can't think of any other explanation why my words don't seem to be reaching you.

Or are you willingly ignoring what I'm saying? Are you trolling? Is that it?

pervypig · 2016-10-13, 09:46

Now, now lets not focus on irrelevant things like personal opinions and whatnots.

I'd still want to understand how Tengan would come up with this kind of dump game to achieve his ends. For one thing, there's no guarantee dat Mitarai, the principle instrument to his plans, would survive either the killings or being close to the monitors with the brainwashing videos.

Also if Tengan is the ultimate culprit behind everything, shouldn't he have known that there's a spying robot that sneaked into his facility? Even if he does not know about it, it doesn't make any sense for Miaya-Monaca to not know of this plan to brainwash everyone (its a damn robot that can't go to sleep or die by poison) including herself. Monaca KNOWS about everyone's NG code, she'd presumably know about how the 'killer' actually worked by suicide. She may just want to play along with the plans, but there's no way she'd actually want to get brainwashed in the end. It doesn't make sense at all.

These are the 2 things that I just thought about, but there are surely tons of holes that need to be filled. Can you guys think of any others?

Dengar · 2016-10-13, 14:58

Well, all the questionable things Tengan did can be easily explained away by just assuming that Tengan is, in fact, not a sensible person. Since there's no evidence of the contrary, it's not an unfair assumption.

As for Monaca, you may have noticed that she kinda just gave up when she realised that there was nothing she could do... Which was why she decided to become a NEET in space.

pervypig · 2016-10-13, 16:48

^ I can accept Junko not being sensible (she even went ahead and killed herself for her own game - idiot), but Tengan's arguments with Munakata are pretty much indication of his logic. He opposed Munakata's fanatism of trying to win by "killing all despairs" by something that he believe would definitely work "brainwashing everyone". Junko had proven that it could work afterall. However, the way he went about it was totally left-field and illogical.

Dengar · 2016-10-13, 17:27

Left field and illogical because he wasn't thinking logically. If he were, none of this mess would have been a thing.

pervypig · 2016-10-14, 07:23

^ Not that I dun agree with your reasoning, but that pretty amounts to "a wizard did it" explanation that makes audiences feel stupid. A plot hole not filled but actively discussed is still better than: "Oh, a psycho did it - dwerps!". Incidentally, in real life, the number of murders committed by the clinically insane are a thousand times less than that done by sane people. Reason is simple: people are wary of the obviously insane, but only sane and logically people can successfully carry out deception. We prefer to call murderers insensible to draw a line against them, but if they aint sane, we can't charge them for murder at all!

Dengar · 2016-10-15, 18:46

I never claimed he was insane. I'm just saying that what he did was nonsensical. The right to do weird things is not exclusive to the deranged.

He started this killing game based on the mistaken assumption that it would make everything better.

Syan48306 · 2016-10-23, 13:22

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Originally Posted by blitz1/2

YES!!! Nagito finally spoke with Naegi lol!

Finally! !

Kuroageha · 2016-11-03, 09:55

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https://youtu.be/MwhgHz3Fm3o

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Dubs

DarkJak2050 · 2017-08-19, 02:58

Alright. I was able to finish up after what happened in Ep. 10 of the Despair Arc.

As for this anime as a whole; not really one of the best I've seen in terms of quality, but I've seen worse. One thing I can say is that you have to be familiar with the Franchise to understand what's going on here.

Would I recommend this to everyone? Not really.

AC-Phoenix · 2017-08-27, 18:47

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https://youtu.be/MwhgHz3Fm3o

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'I don't get this either. - Pretty sure I died'
ROFL

Dengar · 2017-08-30, 06:58

Is that real? And not a gag dub?

dniv · 2017-10-01, 05:26

This anime was sort of a trainwreck. I'll just pretend most of it never happened.

That being said, Kirigiri lives so everything is fine.

They had to kill Chisaki off but we all knew that was happening anyway ... But Kirigiri survived so all is good with the world.

The Nagito-Naegi meetup was also pretty freaking funny.

The games were a lot better than the anime. Some of the action scenes were cool, but I don't understand why they ended things this way, it all felt so unnecessary. I did like the hope episode a lot more than the rest of the series though.

I was also glad that the rest of the cast from dr2 survived as well.

Edit: OMG I'd give that dub a 10/10.

"Yeah, I don't get this either. Pretty sure I died." "Thank you, I'll be right there." LOLOL Yeah, that's some ghost stories level dub rofl. I'd be okay with this season if it were just a parody plus some character interaction fanservice that didn't actually happen as written.

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2016-10-10, 19:54	Link #82
charles883 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015	Yeah, he just answered my question so don't jump the gun, Dengar. Also you seems that severely underestimated Hinata Hajime you are too blinded and narrow minded on DR 2 drama that you severly missing the point Dengar Last edited by charles883; 2016-10-10 at 20:52.

2016-10-11, 09:48	Link #87
charles883 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015	Well my problem with you is you keep insulting Dangan ronpa writer as if you are better writer than him and me when I ask the question, you just barge in my question and insult my answering party and those answering party don't even mentioned you at all. I watch DR2 ending and I even saw Hajime awoken and swear to restored his friend. Don't you seen ending or you miss out that. The way you says on Class 77 as if they should awaken at all or completely forgotten that Hajime is Ultimate talent. Do you even saw that he curb stomp Junko with little effort and that's one of his Ultimate talent ability. Last edited by charles883; 2016-10-11 at 10:07.

2017-10-01, 05:26	Link #100
dniv I’m sorry, Kamijou-san!! Join Date: May 2013 Location: California	This anime was sort of a trainwreck. I'll just pretend most of it never happened. That being said, Kirigiri lives so everything is fine. They had to kill Chisaki off but we all knew that was happening anyway ... But Kirigiri survived so all is good with the world. The Nagito-Naegi meetup was also pretty freaking funny. The games were a lot better than the anime. Some of the action scenes were cool, but I don't understand why they ended things this way, it all felt so unnecessary. I did like the hope episode a lot more than the rest of the series though. I was also glad that the rest of the cast from dr2 survived as well. Edit: OMG I'd give that dub a 10/10. "Yeah, I don't get this either. Pretty sure I died." "Thank you, I'll be right there." LOLOL Yeah, that's some ghost stories level dub rofl. I'd be okay with this season if it were just a parody plus some character interaction fanservice that didn't actually happen as written. __________________ Favorite Series: 0. To aru Series & Legend of heroes: trails sub-series. 1. Ze Tian Ji 2. Reincarnator 3. The King's Avatar/ Mushoku Tensei/ Legendary Moonlight Sculptor 4. Martial World/ Great Teacher Onizuka 5. KnB/KLK/Detective Conan/ Clannad AF/Bakuman Favorite Game Series: #0 The legend of heroes (everything but especially ZERO/AO) #1 Zero escape series. #2 Persona series. #3 Pokemon. #4 Bravely Default series. ; #5 Ace Attorney (including the spin-offs); #6 Legend of Zelda. #7 Dragon Quest (including the spin-offs) Favorite Anime: Castle in the Sky (why is this so underrated ) Gankutsuou; Railgun S; Little Witch Academia (one of the most philosophically interesting/deep shows that I've seen, while also being the single most feel good of feel good shows that I have ever seen; literally the weirdest combination ever); Kill la Kill (because it saved anime ) Last edited by dniv; 2017-10-01 at 05:38.

2016-10-10, 17:37	Link #81
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	I fail to see how he fucked up in any way. The writer just took it from the end of SRD2 and carried to DR3 where all these loose ends concurred. Whatever suits you better, we are not going to agree with each other no matter how much we insist with our view points, so I say we stop there.

2016-10-11, 02:07	Link #83
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	The whole 'he's not being condescending' angle loses all meaning when you subsequently start calling people blind and narrow minded. Is that how you kids debate these days? By attacking the person rather than the argument they make? Fact of the matter is he lied about people 'missing something' and I have every fucking right to correct him. Oh, but because I am blind and narrow minded, all my arguments are invalid, right? 'Winning' arguments has never been easier.

2016-10-11, 03:49	Link #84
charles883 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015	I just ask question only and he just answer the question But you Dengar have to jump into my question with the insult. Hell he never mentioned you at all when he answered my question. If not narrow minded sensitive then I don't know what it is And you also seems conveniently erased your memory on Hajime vows to use all his ultimate talent to restored all class 77 in DR 2 ending just to attack Hope arc and seems wanted the ending where everyone dies Why don't you become story writer or anime since you act as if youre greatest story writer in the world. P.s I think hope arc is the perfect ending for Danganronpa series

2016-10-13, 09:46	Link #89
pervypig Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016	Now, now lets not focus on irrelevant things like personal opinions and whatnots. I'd still want to understand how Tengan would come up with this kind of dump game to achieve his ends. For one thing, there's no guarantee dat Mitarai, the principle instrument to his plans, would survive either the killings or being close to the monitors with the brainwashing videos. Also if Tengan is the ultimate culprit behind everything, shouldn't he have known that there's a spying robot that sneaked into his facility? Even if he does not know about it, it doesn't make any sense for Miaya-Monaca to not know of this plan to brainwash everyone (its a damn robot that can't go to sleep or die by poison) including herself. Monaca KNOWS about everyone's NG code, she'd presumably know about how the 'killer' actually worked by suicide. She may just want to play along with the plans, but there's no way she'd actually want to get brainwashed in the end. It doesn't make sense at all. These are the 2 things that I just thought about, but there are surely tons of holes that need to be filled. Can you guys think of any others?

2016-10-13, 14:58	Link #90
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	Well, all the questionable things Tengan did can be easily explained away by just assuming that Tengan is, in fact, not a sensible person. Since there's no evidence of the contrary, it's not an unfair assumption. As for Monaca, you may have noticed that she kinda just gave up when she realised that there was nothing she could do... Which was why she decided to become a NEET in space.

2016-10-13, 16:48	Link #91
pervypig Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016	^ I can accept Junko not being sensible (she even went ahead and killed herself for her own game - idiot), but Tengan's arguments with Munakata are pretty much indication of his logic. He opposed Munakata's fanatism of trying to win by "killing all despairs" by something that he believe would definitely work "brainwashing everyone". Junko had proven that it could work afterall. However, the way he went about it was totally left-field and illogical.

2016-10-13, 17:27	Link #92
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	Left field and illogical because he wasn't thinking logically. If he were, none of this mess would have been a thing.

2016-10-14, 07:23	Link #93
pervypig Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016	^ Not that I dun agree with your reasoning, but that pretty amounts to "a wizard did it" explanation that makes audiences feel stupid. A plot hole not filled but actively discussed is still better than: "Oh, a psycho did it - dwerps!". Incidentally, in real life, the number of murders committed by the clinically insane are a thousand times less than that done by sane people. Reason is simple: people are wary of the obviously insane, but only sane and logically people can successfully carry out deception. We prefer to call murderers insensible to draw a line against them, but if they aint sane, we can't charge them for murder at all!

2016-10-15, 18:46	Link #94
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	I never claimed he was insane. I'm just saying that what he did was nonsensical. The right to do weird things is not exclusive to the deranged. He started this killing game based on the mistaken assumption that it would make everything better.

2016-11-03, 09:55	Link #96
Kuroageha Mystic Musician Join Date: Jul 2015	YouTube https://youtu.be/MwhgHz3Fm3o Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? Dubs

2017-08-19, 02:58	Link #97
DarkJak2050 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Alright. I was able to finish up after what happened in Ep. 10 of the Despair Arc. As for this anime as a whole; not really one of the best I've seen in terms of quality, but I've seen worse. One thing I can say is that you have to be familiar with the Franchise to understand what's going on here. Would I recommend this to everyone? Not really.

2017-08-30, 06:58	Link #99
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	Is that real? And not a gag dub?