Aquarion EVOL - generic discussion thread

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Vena

By the way, why didn't Amata go soaring at the end of last episode? By every indication he should have hit the stratosphere in record time from that event... yet he didn't move at all.

Maybe he's finally becoming a man instead of a teenage boy

Originally Posted by Pellissier

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Well, I know a certain someone who would be happy this finally came-

Originally Posted by Shinji103

*NOSEBLEED EXPLOSION*

*typing in a hospital bed*

...Yup.

I can infer two things- Zessica truly doesn't wear anything, and Mikono likes stripes all around.

One of them is an evil woman

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Pellissier

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wow, Mikono is more well endowed than she looks in clothes

[Vena]

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Originally Posted by Shinji103

Except you're automatically assuming several things that are never stated or in any way really inferred either. Why do you assume Mikono's power works every time she pilots Aquarion? Where are you getting the "they need a previous bond" thing?

I'm addressing most of your post but only quoting this much to save space... as you'll also notice, I'll be addressing many of my own complaints with possible answers. That said, I do not like this theory because it leaves too many questions hanging...

For what reason would it not work every time? Passive abilities like Zessica's *force* was stated as active without need to show it off, simply because she was the pilot. Amata's ability to let units be agile/fly was also stated without the need to show glowy wings and stuff. Cayenne's ability has activated and been magnified every single time he was in the Aquarion. See Shrade's Spada episode, the characteristics of the pilots and their abilities is what defines the abilities of the Aquarion formed. Every time pilots form the the Aquarion the unlocked attack depends on who's present and their bond, its form is defined by who is in the head, and its general characteristics depend on the pilots.

There's plenty to say that the pilot's ability is always brought out by Aquarion when the total is formed, there's nothing to say that it works only some of the time. (Then again, the sample size is pretty small for repeated pilots.)

Now, you are free to say that Mikono's ability was *maybe* suppressed because even she was unaware of it, fair enough. But then I'd say that her power is defined as the ability to connect, which is what she did with two people *who already had a bond* (or as I said before having a previous bond) and therein could be connected or would have reason to be connected. This is different from evoking love in Zessica because that's drawing out an emotion, whereas Mikono didn't draw out anything and instead formed a bridge between MIX and Andy. Did she form a connection between Zessica and Amata when they formed the Spada? Why wasn't it shown? Why was Zessica the only one to be affected if that was the case? There's also the fact that everyone was making a real big deal this episode when Mikono's power activated... wouldn't they have noticed it last episode if it were in effect? They seemed pretty keen to notice it. (Saying that these inconsistencies arise from a chaotic display of an unstable power is rather too convenient an explanation but I'll buy it if the show decides to go with it.)

All I'm saying is that there are too many questions that this theory brings up... I have no desire to bother Divine who's been clearly busy recently with a simple discussion. I'm merely pointing out the holes in the theory.

Originally Posted by Shinji103

A bit of "putting words in my mouth" there, as I never said Zessica's feelings "popped out of nowhere."

That was merely a poor choice of words on my part, forgive me.

Originally Posted by Shinji103

By the way, Random Curiosity doesn't allow hotlinking; try clicking on that link.

Ooh, good point.

@Chaos: Clearly, he's simply been tempered by Zessica's near nudity that he's no longer phased by clothed women!

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

wow, Mikono is more well endowed than she looks in clothes

Don't you pay attention whenever she's gattaing ?

Originally Posted by Vena

@Chaos: Clearly, he's simply been tempered by Zessica's near nudity that he's no longer phased by clothed women!

Or maybe after last week's stripping incident, the bar is now set higher


EDIT:

Apologies if these fanarts been posted before... This thread moves too fast for it's own good sometimes...

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[germanturkey]

there needed to be more innuendo in the last ep.

[bakAnki]

Originally Posted by Vena

The thing is that she doesn't just generate bonds that don't already exist, otherwise Cayenne should be boy-crushing all over Amata if just piloting with her makes people form lovey-dovey bonds. You also need at least some sort of mutual connection which Mikono makes solid -> Mix and Andy.

Yeah, from my understanding, Mikono's power doesn't make other two pilots become lovey-dovey. Since if that's the case, Mix would fall for Amata too, wouldn't she?

But I think the idea that Zess's feeling for Amata became stronger due to Mikono's power isn't completely wrong since we can say that after her constant teasing and that Yunoha accident, Zess would develop feeling for Amata even only a little, and that's Mikono job to make it stronger. After all she sure changed a lot, by the beginning of #8 she didn't feel jealous when Amata look at Mikono picture yet at the end of the same episode she fell for him and bought his picture, that sudden change wouldn't happen only because she saw Amata's great thing, would it?

And if that theory is right, with "Love is forbidden" thing, it makes sense for Fudou to deployed three of them on #8 so Zess's feeling for Amata would be stronger so the love triangle would happen and it will make more difficult for Amata to really fall in love with Mikono (or Zessica), thus make Aquarion more stable if three of them only in very edge of love.

[Vena]

Originally Posted by bakAnki

But I think the idea that Zess's feeling for Amata became stronger due to Mikono's power isn't completely wrong since we can say that after her constant teasing and that Yunoha accident, Zess would develop feeling for Amata even only a little, and that's Mikono job to make it stronger. After all she sure changed a lot, by the beginning of #8 she didn't feel jealous when Amata look at Mikono picture yet at the end of the same episode she fell for him and bought his picture, that sudden change wouldn't happen only because she saw Amata's great thing, would it?

Ironic a development as that may be (and not something I had considered), Mikono's ability is about connecting two people not to make feelings stronger. As per this episode, she didn't make Mix's feelings for Andy stronger or vice-versa, those feelings had already been given basis by their interaction, but what she did do was connect them heart-to-heart and allow for Mix to understand Andy and for Andy to understand Mix (neither of them ended the episode in love with the other, unlike Zessica's case of falling for Amata). Put bluntly and double entendre words of this show: she brought them (Andy and Mix) together and made them whole.

To be consistent with what was shown, we'd need to say that: Mikono brought out Zessica's hidden heart and connected it to the only thing it (her heart) trusted, Amata. Connected, Zessica's heart found something in Amata about which to be embarrassed and she herself realized her own feelings. (This makes contextual sense not only with how Mikono's power was used now but the development that Zessica underwent in ep. seven... or that's what I would be saying if it weren't for the missing component of Amata's reaction unless we consider his hi-five and belated reactions as some sort of vague sign.)

That said, I'm all open to the possibility, it'll just need a proper explanation which I don't think we have at the moment.

[DragoonKain3]

Originally Posted by Pellissier

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My draw towards Mikono is her Zettai Ryouiki, personally. So yeah, doesn't do much for me unfortunately.

This on the otherhand... :drool:

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

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[Zuul]

Originally Posted by Vena

He's the one who put them together, and he's known about everything else going on...

Anyway, even if I thought it likely, I wouldn't like a repeat of the Donar incident for it would mean that Zessica is going to drag her gloomyness/bitterness at least until episode 13 and that Amata and Mikono are going to become even more lovey dovey. blerg

[Mangaka-chan]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

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It's funny how these fanart start popping up even though nothing's happened yet in the show. Though I have to admit, from the preview it does look like a possible ship is in the works. I just hope we don't get trolled with a misdirection because I do think this pairing is rather cute.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Mangaka-chan

It's funny how these fanart start popping up even though nothing's happened yet in the show. Though I have to admit, from the preview it does look like a possible ship is in the works. I just hope we don't get trolled with a misdirection because I do think this pairing is rather cute.

Andy and Mix fanart appears the second they were put in the same team.... That Crea and Shrade img pops up the moment she showed concern for him.

But Jin and Yunoha were out long before this preview even happened! Whats going on ?!

[evil|plushie]

Finally watched the episode. Did anyone else find mykage saying "if you only concentrate on 1 flower, you can't grow a garden" very very ominous?

[Zuul]

Originally Posted by evil|plushie

Finally watched the episode. Did anyone else find mykage saying "if you only concentrate on 1 flower, you can't grow a garden" very very ominous?

For me, it's obvious that Mikage knows a lot more than the rest of Altea and that he has an hidden agenda that conflicts with Altea's best interest.

It seems to indicate that Mikage thinks that searching for only one Eve is not the right way to go to solve their population problem. But he doesn't care.

[Shinji103]

Originally Posted by Vena

That said, I'm all open to the possibility, it'll just need a proper explanation which I don't think we have at the moment.

Of course we don't have a proper explanation for it; Mikono's power was only revealed last episode. Which is also why it's too early to be debating against the possibility.

At the earliest, any possible revelation that Zessica's feelings for Amata were influenced by Mikono in any way, will be saved for later in the series.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by evil|plushie

Finally watched the episode. Did anyone else find mykage saying "if you only concentrate on 1 flower, you can't grow a garden" very very ominous?

Hard to tell, everything that flowery bastard says sounds ominous to me

Originally Posted by Shinji103

Of course we don't have a proper explanation for it; Mikono's power was only revealed last episode. Which is also why it's too early to be debating against the possibility.

You know, that in itself should be a clue- why only now did we experience the effect of Mikono's element?

[miketyson]

I think we did experience Mikono's ability at least one time earlier, when she had that weird feeling on the boat while watching Aquarion fighting. *Maybe* a second time when she didn't shake Zessica's hand.

It depends a bit on how it works. If it's just connecting people then probably not. But it seems like she also gets a read on the people she connects with and can sense their feelings somehow. So perhaps her early antagonism to Zessica is because she knew something about Zessica that we didn't (and perhaps even Zessica didn't either, at that time).

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by miketyson

I think we did experience Mikono's ability at least one time earlier, when she had that weird feeling on the boat while watching Aquarion fighting. *Maybe* a second time when she didn't shake Zessica's hand.

It depends a bit on how it works. If it's just connecting people then probably not. But it seems like she also gets a read on the people she connects with and can sense their feelings somehow. So perhaps her early antagonism to Zessica is because she knew something about Zessica that we didn't (and perhaps even Zessica didn't either, at that time).

I don't know, that seems to take quite a bit of liberty in depicting the scenes... Mikono hasn't been depicted to have that kind of understanding of people... Plus it wouldn't account for why she's friendly to her now if she had sensed something before...

[Zuul]

Originally Posted by miketyson

I think we did experience Mikono's ability at least one time earlier, when she had that weird feeling on the boat while watching Aquarion fighting. *Maybe* a second time when she didn't shake Zessica's hand.

It depends a bit on how it works. If it's just connecting people then probably not. But it seems like she also gets a read on the people she connects with and can sense their feelings somehow. So perhaps her early antagonism to Zessica is because she knew something about Zessica that we didn't (and perhaps even Zessica didn't either, at that time).

Nah, it was because Zessica called her a nainai baka. You don't usually get all firendly with the people who just insulted you. Even if those insults are somewhat true.

You're reading too much into Mikono rather underwhelming element ability.


The thing that is bugging me is that Mix stated that elements who are blood-related resonate (which I think implies them having some sort of mental connection, Mikono supposed being able to know if Cayenne has a perverted mind) while there is nothing of the sort between Mikono and Cayenne which earlier was blamed on Mikono not having an elemental ability.

So either Mikono is not blood-related to Cayenne or we have a little plot hole here.

[kuromitsu]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

You know, that in itself should be a clue- why only now did we experience the effect of Mikono's element?

Because this was the first time that she actually used it. Cayenne didn't like Amata but they could work together just fine, as did Amata and Zessica. There was no need to "connect" them. But now, she wanted to connect Andy and Mix.

Originally Posted by Zuul

You're reading too much into Mikono rather underwhelming element ability.

*snort* Underwhelming? I bet she'll save the day with it in the end. :P

[Zuul]

Originally Posted by kuromitsu

*snort* Underwhelming? I bet she'll save the day with it in the end. :P

Probably. But at the moment it looks kinda lame.

But it's still way better than her popping some super duper elemental power out of nowhere.