2012-05-09, 09:43 | Link #123 |
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^Final Fantasy XII is really amazing and one of the most underrated games I know. Many people dislike it for its battle system and characters. But I love it. In fact, let me try and quote Garnett Lee's perfect review of the game, because I love quoting reviews:
"They always had this, you know, strong protagonist, who was young and comming to terms with a number of emotional issues and that sort of thing. In this case, although you might look at Vaan and say 'wow, he looks very similar to that', the story is much more a global political intrigue. It's a more sofisticated story. It's the kind of story you'd see in a big production epic movie. And for some people that's been a turn-off, because they've got accostumed to Final Fantasy. It doesn't fit their ideal of what that is. And for others it's exciting, because no longer are you just strapped to whether or not you love or hate the primary character. You can actually get into the story." On topic though, if I had to rate my favorite Final Fantasies, the (momentary) list would probably look somewhat like this: 5. Final Fantasy IV / VIII / XIII 4. Final Fantasy V / X-2 3. Final Fantasy VII / IX 2. Final Fantasy VI / XII 1. Final Fantasy X I haven't played 1 to 3 and XIII-2 yet.
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2012-05-09, 09:56 | Link #124 |
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Final Fantasy... VI and VII and X..for story and development of the story of the characters. and XIII (a good story..but not good like the other i have mentioned)but yeah for the graphics next gen... if you make FFVII with the graphics next gen...i think it is the best FF
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2012-05-09, 10:09 | Link #125 |
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I actually think the gaming part of FF XII is stronger than the story itself. Ashe, in particular, is an unsympathetic character thrust into the heroine role (and horribly acted by a heavy-breathing Kari Wahlgren). I like how she's at least conflicted between a desire to do good and a lust for power, but the writers really could have taken that conflict a lot further. Vaan is pretty much the generic pretty-boy teen that we've seen in other FF stories. Basch had potential as a character, but he fades into the background and becomes little more than Ashe's swordsman. Penelo is pretty much a generic genki girl.
That leaves Balthier and Fran, who are the two strongest characters in the game. I found less and less for them to do as party members in the later stages of the game, but Fran's back-story has some depth and Balthier has some of the best dialogue in any FF game I've played. All his remarks about being the "leading man," which implicitly break the fourth wall, are quite witty. However the battle system in XII is one of the best ever created by the FF designers. I like the gambit system and being able to set up my characters and let them have at it. In complicated battles I'll usually control one of them from time to time, but it was fun figuring out what combination of strategies to use against certain bosses. It took me a number of tries to figure out how to defeat the boss in the Sochen Cave Palace (one of the best bosses ever, by the way). One thing that I found disappointing was the final battle in XII, and in X and XIII as well. They all seemed less exciting than some of the other bosses along the way. I gave up fighting the final boss in XIII because it was just an incredibly boring battle. For some reason Square Enix seems to design final boss battles that just seem to repeat interminably and where the boss has ridiculously high HP levels. (VII suffers from this problem as well.) I like bosses that change strategies and pose more difficult problems as the battle progresses. The within-game FF bosses seem to have more of that character than the final ones. My other complaint about XII was the number of bosses who were there just to have a boss battle rather than being intrinsic to the development of the story. Still I've invested a few hundred hours in XII including two complete playthroughs and occasional replays in between because I enjoy the battle system. For story development, though, I prefer X, VI, VIII, and VII. VI is the game that most deserves a remake with modern graphics and controls. Yuna (in X) and Celes remain my favorite heroines, with Zidane perhaps my favorite hero, and Auron and Balthier getting the nod in the male supporting roles. (i might have included Squall as a hero except for his remarkable display of obtuseness when he was alone with Rinoa in the spaceship.) Among the supporting ladies I'd probably pick Lulu, Tifa, Aerith, and Edea.
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2012-05-09, 13:41 | Link #126 | |
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I don't think i ever seen the water down ver let loose one nuke much less two in the same fight.
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2012-05-18, 18:25 | Link #127 |
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My favourite is 10 hands down, followed by 9, 7 and 8.
Final Fantasy 10 had the best story, character development, fun factor, and loveable characters I've seen in the franchise. I love the other Final Fantasy games (minus 13 & 13-2 "shudders") but 10 still continues to grow on me. That's just my opinion.
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2012-09-27, 07:24 | Link #128 |
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Ok, I have played more FF games so here is my new ranking.
Spoilers ahead so if you didn't play a specific game, probably it is better not to read. Spoiler for FF 9:
Spoiler for FF 10:
Spoiler for FF 13:
Spoiler for FF 8:
Spoiler for FF 12:
That's all I have played so far. My next games on the list are FF XIII-2 and FF7. Once I'm done with those, I'll update my list.
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2012-09-27, 13:30 | Link #130 |
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^ The american or japanese FFI?
I started with FFVIII at '98. Being my first really got me biased towards it, I still think it has some of the best tracks and themes and the most immersing side quests (Triple Triad club, GF hunting, etc.) Worth of note, it's one of the few games where your exp curve is parallel to the X axis, all levels from ~7 to 100 require 1000 exp, which is actually a setback, considering the attribute bonus skills that you can obtain. What made it even more interesting is the fact that you can reach the ragnarok without using junction, just by spamming limit breaks with a revolver This made me want to play it over and over again under different conditions, like getting a ton of cards and keeping a very low level before bursting up with all the bonuses I can get, or grinding for Lionheart at Disc I and stuff. Its story was, admittedly, weaker than FFVII or IX, but it's still better than FFX and XII (which, while well thought, was boring in the end). The Fabula Nova Crystallis series have a nice premise, but it's tiring to buy 3-4 games for one FF universe, since they've never been the same after FFVII, not to mention that so far, they've been quite flawed and outright mediocre when it comes to battle enjoyment. |
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2012-09-27, 18:01 | Link #132 |
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FF IV (used to hate it because of the random battle every 10 seconds)
FF VI FF VII FF VIII FF IX FF XII but my all-time favorite is .... Final Fantasy Tactics - even if it isn't a numbered FF entry, it still rocks to this day.
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2012-09-27, 19:04 | Link #135 |
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I don't think it was that, because from what I've been told, Final Fantasy 9 is closer to the original medieval-ish games from before 7. My guess is that it was because it was similar to those games, so people who started with 7 and 8 didn't care for the change in setting.
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2012-09-28, 06:56 | Link #137 |
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My first game was FF 9 so that's why I probably like it so much. The only real problem with it is that as first time RPG player it was very confusing. I needed my friend to explain everything to me, especially battle system.
I kept healing monsters and wondered why the hell they don't die -_- The game doesn't have enough instructions in the beggining like many others do. I still want to play FF VII and see why everyone loves it so much though somehow I feel that I'll be disappointed in some way.
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2012-09-29, 09:30 | Link #140 |
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Final Fantasy 9 is the only game I finished, so automatically this game gets my vote. I have played about half length of FF 6 & 7 but for some reason, it couldn't keep me for long. I have nearly finished FF 10 just before the last boss.
I only found FF 9 characters more easy to relate to and be easily charmed by. It had that closeness and natural character interaction than any of the series. I think people only dislikes the series because the loading transition is too slow. Really to me that's the only flaw of the game when the epic plot and music easily compensate for it. This is the kind of buildup all story driven RPG should aim for.
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