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Old 2009-09-15, 09:25   Link #1061
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I wouldn't even say Hakko was twisted.
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Old 2009-09-15, 10:43   Link #1062
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dont worry there always blow jobs and kissing

This Discussion has turned into a sex Discussion
But there's a female component to the blow job that actually causes sounds. If you watch live-action, you'll know what I mean.

Even watching Sukiyaki Western Django (not a hentai title) will show you one portion of it.
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Old 2009-09-15, 10:47   Link #1063
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i always did assume that they did have sex, since Santana said that he pleasured her in bed. maybe she was able to keep from moaning?
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Old 2009-09-15, 10:49   Link #1064
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i always did assume that they did have sex, since Santana said that he pleasured her in bed. maybe she was able to keep from moaning?
Poor girl. Covering her mouth and faking it all that time.

Couples usually talk to each other during...

You gotta wonder if he really thought that she was getting something out of it.

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The only time she was able to express how she felt about him is when he's dead. So I don't think that she was twisted, just tragic.
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Old 2009-09-15, 11:12   Link #1065
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oh man have we gotten graphic in here. Im starting wonder if they did that scene on purpose because they knew it would spark this kind of discussion.

Im pretty sure they had had sex before. Because Satana said he pleasured her and that she makes cute sounds in bed. It was during the scene when she had her top off.
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Old 2009-09-15, 11:17   Link #1066
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oh man have we gotten graphic in here. Im starting wonder if they did that scene on purpose because they knew it would spark this kind of discussion.

Im pretty sure they had had sex before. Because Satana said he pleasured her and that she makes cute sounds in bed. It was during the scene when she had her top off.
But just because I guy thinks he's having sex does not mean that his partner is actually having fun. It's controlled on her end and not spontaneous as he could get killed with any sound from her. It was a one-sided thing imo. The guy was prob in denial initally and at the end he realised what he had been doing to her all those years.

Hence, his little comments in the end about how she hates him and her wanting to continue their lover's conversation.

Do you want to admit to yourself that your partner of x years has been faking it all along?

Do you really continue in a relationship in which your partner hates you?
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Old 2009-09-15, 13:08   Link #1067
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I hope they pull off a satisfying death for Alphonse. Her character pisses me off.
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Old 2009-09-15, 13:48   Link #1068
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I hope they pull off a satisfying death for Alphonse. Her character pisses me off.
l hope yun yun/maria kill her and she has this look of shock to her!
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Old 2009-09-15, 13:53   Link #1069
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But just because I guy thinks he's having sex does not mean that his partner is actually having fun. It's controlled on her end and not spontaneous as he could get killed with any sound from her. It was a one-sided thing imo. The guy was prob in denial initally and at the end he realised what he had been doing to her all those years.
Nice point, Orion, with the ep 11 scene even more creepy since she could make as many sounds as she liked...

Prude that I am, I would prefer to think that the words 'I love you', are significant rather than the sex. I doubt Hakko even mouthed it before, since it was such a tough subject; she might never have been sure herself, until she lost Santana.

For the vote, tragic and twisted.

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If anyone gets Alphard to lose her composure and freak out, I will be impressed.
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Old 2009-09-15, 13:59   Link #1070
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If anyone gets Alphard to lose her composure and freak out, I will be impressed.
Personally i hope we never see it. If she does die in the story, then she should go out as the character she has been since the beginning of the series.
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Old 2009-09-15, 14:47   Link #1071
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Personally i hope we never see it. If she does die in the story, then she should go out as the character she has been since the beginning of the series.
That would be good too. Then again, every character has something that can break them.
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Old 2009-09-15, 15:04   Link #1072
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I hope Alphard lives till the end of the series and her and Canaan continue their game of cat and mouse. I actually like Alphard i respect bad guys that can keep their composer as she does its always about the mission nothing more nothing less. Such dedication combined with her intelligence deadly skill and basic lack of emotions makes her quite deadly.
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Old 2009-09-15, 15:12   Link #1073
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If anyone gets Alphard to lose her composure and freak out, I will be impressed.
There was his name is Siam and unfortunately hes dead now :/
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Old 2009-09-15, 15:31   Link #1074
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There was his name is Siam and unfortunately hes dead now :/
Ever since we learnt about him, i haven't classed him as dead. I mean we never see him die do we?

Just saying that it's a 50/50 chance at the moment.
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Old 2009-09-15, 15:46   Link #1075
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Ever since we learnt about him, i haven't classed him as dead. I mean we never see him die do we?

Just saying that it's a 50/50 chance at the moment.
Alphrad said herself that he was dead. Canaan seems to know it too. I don't think you can really call it a 50/50 chance as so much a 100% fact that hes dead
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Old 2009-09-15, 15:48   Link #1076
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Alphrad said herself that he was dead. Canaan seems to know it too. I don't think you can really call it a 50/50 chance as so much a 100% fact that hes dead
I'm still gonna go with the fact that we didn't see him die, i mean the amount of times in many different types of media have they said a certain character is dead, and then they appear later in the story.

It's like the classic Gundam rule. If you don't see their body during the death scene, then they're still alive.
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Old 2009-09-15, 15:53   Link #1077
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I'm still gonna go with the fact that we didn't see him die, i mean the amount of times in many different types of media have they said a certain character is dead, and then they appear later in the story.

It's like the classic Gundam rule. If you don't see their body during the death scene, then they're still alive.
I think considering the fact that he was narrating when Canaan and Alphrad was introduced, like as he was watching over them. And we've saw the scene were Alphrad was pointing the gun on the train its safe to say he is dead. Not to mention Canaan was with him "all" the time so she would know, to be honest she probably buried him.
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Old 2009-09-15, 15:55   Link #1078
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I think considering the fact that he was narrating when Canaan and Alphrad was introduced, like as he was watching over them. And we've saw the scene were Alphrad was pointing the gun on the train its safe to say he is dead. Not to mention Canaan was with him "all" the time so she would know, to be honest she probably buried him.
Pointing a gun at him doesn't mean anything really, but ah well. I shall have my theory, and you'll have yours.
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Old 2009-09-15, 17:16   Link #1079
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i always did assume that they did have sex, since Santana said that he pleasured her in bed. maybe she was able to keep from moaning?
He only said that to chase Mino away, who was obviously attracted to Hakko's charms too. It doesn't mean what he said was true.

And the Hakko in bed scene doesn't really imply anything.
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Old 2009-09-15, 18:37   Link #1080
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Episode 11

What a cheesy one - well, what a cheesy show.

Rie Tanaka amazing as Liang Qi - who literally stole the show. Animation top-notch as usual, and I like the extra 90 seconds [fan of no-openings and alike for important episodes] for this episode.

Well, I love - and hate, at the same time - stuff like Hakko making love with the dead or total white-hair craziness of Liang.

And the future is so unpredictable...
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