Future Episode Synopses/Series Predictions/General Speculation

[C.A.]

Alright time to update the episode orders:

Chronological/Airtime

Episode 01/02 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅰ
Episode 02/03 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅱ
Episode 03/05 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅲ
Episode 04/10 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅳ
Episode 05/?? - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅴ
Episode 06/14 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅵ
Episode 07/04 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Taikutsu
Episode 08/07 - Mysterique Sign
Episode 09/06 - Lone Island Syndrome (Part 1)
Episode 10/08 - Lone Island Syndrome (Part 2)
Episode 11/?? - ?
Episode 12/?? - ?
Episode 13/11 - Day of Sagittarius
Episode 14/09 - Someday In The Rain

Episode ??/01 - Asahina Mikuru no Bouken Episode 00

Anyone has an updated speculation on the unknown episodes?

EDIT: Rearrangement of Asahina Mikuru no Bouken Episode 00

[Pakxenon]

Endless Eight and Asahina Mikuru no Bouken.

1. Sighs would be impossible to fit into 2/1 episodes.
2. LIVE A LIVE would logically follow Sighs.

[Sushi-Y]

Originally Posted by Pakxenon

LIVE A LIVE would logically follow Sighs.

Actually, Live a Live can fit into the ? slots just fine.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...8&postcount=80

But yes, I agree Tameiki's not going to be in. If you consider the fact that Kyoani has been following the novel almost to a tee on all episodes, then it's quite obvious that they're not going half-ass an entire volume with only 2 episodes (it wasn't that great of a volume anyway).

With that said, there are only 3 stories that can fit into the ? slots:

- Asahina Mikuru no Bouken
- Endless Eight
- Live a Live

(also refer to MOON PHASE's chart: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/moonphase/20040105)

cyan-san (the MOON PHASE guy) thinks the series might actually be 14+1 episodes, with Asahina Mikuru no Bouken being "Episode 0" and seperate from the episode count (as reflected in the chart). In that case, it's possible that all three stories above can be fitted in. However, one of them will be a DVD-only release.

If that's true, then my guess is that they'll do Endless Eight for the DVD-only episode, considering the fan-service factor.

[C.A.]

Hmmm what about Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody? I thought someone mentioned that a bamboo plant was shown in Someday In The Rain so it may be possible Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody may be shown. This speculation was there because he said 4 laptops was shown and Day of Sagittarius is airing.

[Pakxenon]

I read (not very clearly) the synopsis for LIVE A LIVE. It seems to logically follow Tameiki, since they're still in the cultral festival and whatnot (I think).

And Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody is impossible, of course. That's for next season (episode 00 anybody? o_O), and they can't fit 0.5 episodes (no matter how hard you try).

If there's a DVD only release then... hurray!!

[Sushi-Y]

Originally Posted by Pakxenon

I read (not very clearly) the synopsis for LIVE A LIVE. It seems to logically follow Tameiki, since they're still in the cultral festival and whatnot (I think).

(did you bother to click on the time-line link in my last post?)
Yes, both the filming (Tameiki) and the airing of the movie at the culture festival (Live a Live) took place in November. Where's the problem?

Originally Posted by C.A.

Hmmm what about Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody? I thought someone mentioned that a bamboo plant was shown in Someday In The Rain so it may be possible Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody may be shown. This speculation was there because he said 4 laptops was shown and Day of Sagittarius is airing.

Bamboo Leaf may seem like an obvious choice because it was such an important story in the novel. But if you think about it, you'll realize that it's completely unnecessary if they're not doing Shoushitsu.

Regardless of whether or not they actually plan to do a season 2 featuring Shoushitsu, it makes sense if they wanted to finish the season off cleanly with one main plot (Yuutsu) + various unimportant side stories. Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody, on the other hand, is an untied knot that doesn't get cleaned up until Shoushitsu.

[panzerfan]

Bamboo leaf is so critical that I would think it's better to do it in season 2 just because all of a sudden the event 3 years ago becomes so clear to the audience right after.

I personally think doing Endless Eight is a far better idea if you want to introduce something to confuse the audience. Mikuru's story and LIVE ALIVE... a bit better to leave them to season 2.

[C.A.]

Hmmm I see.

Also the way you guys talk about season 2 makes it sound like its definitely going to happen.

Shamisen seems to be a totally unneeded character lol

[Kinny Riddle]

Originally Posted by C.A.

Alright time to update the episode orders:

Chronological/Airtime

Episode 00/01 - Asahina Mikuru no Bouken Episode 00
Episode 01/02 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅰ
Episode 02/03 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅱ
Episode 03/05 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅲ
Episode 04/10 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅳ
Episode 05/?? - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅴ
Episode 06/14 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅵ
Episode 07/04 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Taikutsu
Episode 08/07 - Mysterique Sign
Episode 09/06 - Lone Island Syndrome (Part 1)
Episode 10/08 - Lone Island Syndrome (Part 2)
Episode 11/?? - ?
Episode 12/?? - ?
Episode 13/11 - Day of Sagittarius
Episode 14/09 - Someday In The Rain

Anyone has an updated speculation on the unknown episodes?

If this timeline is chronological, then Asahina Mikuru no Bouken Episode 00 shouldn't be episode 0. Allow me to emphasize: It's "episode 00" for "Asahina no Bouken", not "episode 0" for "The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi"

So the numbering for the first episode is either episode 11 or 12, with the remaining either from "Endless Eight" or "LIVE ALIVE".

[panzerfan]

That would be ideal. I can only hope Kyoani would do that.

[C.A.]

Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

If this timeline is chronological, then Asahina Mikuru no Bouken Episode 00 shouldn't be episode 0. Allow me to emphasize: It's "episode 00" for "Asahina no Bouken", not "episode 0" for "The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi"

So the numbering for the first episode is either episode 11 or 12, with the remaining either from "Endless Eight" or "LIVE ALIVE".

Ahh my mistake, I do know that its somewhere around episode 12 though.

I used 2 digits for tidiness lol

[bayoab]

Originally Posted by Sushi-Y

Actually, Live a Live can fit into the ? slots just fine.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...8&postcount=80

But yes, I agree Tameiki's not going to be in. If you consider the fact that Kyoani has been following the novel almost to a tee on all episodes, then it's quite obvious that they're not going half-ass an entire volume with only 2 episodes (it wasn't that great of a volume anyway).

With that said, there are only 3 stories that can fit into the ? slots:

- Asahina Mikuru no Bouken
- Endless Eight
- Live a Live

(also refer to MOON PHASE's chart: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/moonphase/20040105)

Live alive has apparently been confirmed through Insert songs by whatever site the translator is using to create his timetable. (Link goes to main page because some browers have trouble rendering one or the other.)

Edit: Confirmed as episode 12 as per 2ch.

cyan-san (the MOON PHASE guy) thinks the series might actually be 14+1 episodes, with Asahina Mikuru no Bouken being "Episode 0" and seperate from the episode count (as reflected in the chart). In that case, it's possible that all three stories above can be fitted in. However, one of them will be a DVD-only release.

If that's true, then my guess is that they'll do Endless Eight for the DVD-only episode, considering the fan-service factor.

Adding fuel to the fire, the webnewtype anime land claims 14 is not the final episode. However, webnewtype's listing for haruhi is screwy to begin with so I do not know how much to trust it. Normally they are correct, but this is haruhi where the episode descriptions is quotes from the novel. If this is true, this suggests two possibilities:
1) Everyone who said 14 was wrong and its actually 15 (1 + 7x2) or theoretically more... (sudden dvd 8+ announcement?)
2) Episode 00 is really episode >15, thus making 14 not the final.

[Sushi-Y]

Originally Posted by bayoab

Live alive has apparently been confirmed through Insert songs by whatever site the translator is using to create his timetable. (Link goes to main page because some browers have trouble rendering one or the other.)

Edit: Confirmed as episode 12 as per 2ch.

Yes, the moment they announced that there was going to be 2 insert songs over a month ago, I predicted that Live a Live was going to be in.

Also, notice how episode 12 is going to be "Live a Live", and episode 13 was "The Day of Sagitarrius"? "Asahina Mikuru no Bouken" can no longer fit into the chronological episode slots, so cyan-san was right, it's "episode 0" and not part of the chronological episode count.

Originally Posted by bayoab

Adding fuel to the fire, the webnewtype anime land claims 14 is not the final episode. However, webnewtype's listing for haruhi is screwy to begin with so I do not know how much to trust it. Normally they are correct, but this is haruhi where the episode descriptions is quotes from the novel. If this is true, this suggests two possibilities:
1) Everyone who said 14 was wrong and its actually 15 (1 + 7x2) or theoretically more... (sudden dvd 8+ announcement?)
2) Episode 00 is really episode >15, thus making 14 not the final.

15 episode is possible (14 TV + 1 DVD-only), but that's it.

I'll say this again, it's impossible for Haruhi to go on past episode 14.
1) Many TV stations have already announced their airing schedules past 7/10 (the week after Haruhi episode 14 will air), and the anime that will be replacing Haruhi's timeslot have already been determined.
2) Kyoani has to start working on "Kanon" soon, otherwise they won't make it in time for its Fall airtime.

[C.A.]

Alright here's a new theory from me:

It's safer to read if you've already read novel 1, since my theory comes from it. Actually it just came to my mind while I was reading through it the 2nd time.

Spoiler for Kyon's role towards Haruhi:

Haruhi wanted to meet aliens, time travellers and espers, thats why Yuki, Mikuru and Itsuki appeared infront of her. So what is Kyon? Is he the slider? Maybe, since he crossed all sorts of dimensions, closed spaces and such.

But no, I think he has a much simpler role and its also something Haruhi wanted to have. Kyon exists because Haruhi wanted a person who would care for her, listen to her, someone who is always there for her. She wants someone who loves her or a person she would love. That is Kyon.

Its just that simple, Kyon doesn't need to have super powers but he can deeply affect Haruhi. That's his role, the key. The 3 of them probably knows that Haruhi and Kyon needs to love each other to save the world. But if they told Kyon directly to love Haruhi, that won't work. Though Kyon and Haruhi has a bond between themselves, the 3 of them are trying to strengthen that bond.

The incident that happened in Yuuutsu VII directly supports my theory. Also Mikuru and Yuki gave the hints. Mikuru can't allow herself and Kyon to be close to each other for the same reason. Itsuki also kept reminding Kyon about the bond and trust Haruhi and Kyon has. So yea, Kyon exists just to love and be loved by Haruhi.

As for who's the slider, I think the entire SOS dan are sliders. Especially Itsuki though, he mentioned closed spaces are parallel dimensions. Since the entire SOS dan has been through several dimensions and closed spaces, they are all sliders.

[outcast_within]

The explanation of the aztec sun hasn't come by yet in an episode right?

[CrowKenobi]

Originally Posted by C.A.

Alright time to update the episode orders:

Chronological/Airtime

Episode 01/02 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅰ
Episode 02/03 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅱ
Episode 03/05 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅲ
Episode 04/10 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅳ
Episode 05/?? - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅴ
Episode 06/14 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅵ
Episode 07/04 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Taikutsu
Episode 08/07 - Mysterique Sign
Episode 09/06 - Lone Island Syndrome (Part 1)
Episode 10/08 - Lone Island Syndrome (Part 2)
Episode 11/?? - ?
Episode 12/?? - ?
Episode 13/11 - Day of Sagittarius
Episode 14/09 - Someday In The Rain

Episode ??/01 - Asahina Mikuru no Bouken Episode 00

Anyone has an updated speculation on the unknown episodes?

EDIT: Rearrangement of Asahina Mikuru no Bouken Episode 00

I was on Anime News Network yesterday and they put "Asahina Mikuru no Bouken Episode 00" in the episode 11 slot. Thus the episode arrangement would look like this:

Chronological Order/Broadcast Order

• Episode 01/02 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅰ
• Episode 02/03 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅱ
• Episode 03/05 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅲ
• Episode 04/10 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅳ
• Episode 05/13 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅴ
• Episode 06/14 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu Ⅵ
• Episode 07/04 - Suzumiya Haruhi no Taikutsu
• Episode 08/07 - Mysterique Sign
• Episode 09/06 - Lone Island Syndrome (Part 1)
• Episode 10/08 - Lone Island Syndrome (Part 2)
• Episode 11/01 - Asahina Mikuru no Bouken Episode 00
• Episode 12/12 - Live A Live
• Episode 13/11 - Day of Sagittarius
• Episode 14/09 - Someday In The Rain

So unless the rumored DVD only ep is going to be placed in the ep 11 slot, I guess that's all there is of The Meloncholy of Haruhi Suzumiya season 1. (Yes, let's hope for a second season! )

[arcticphoenix16]

remember in episode 14/9 there's a shot of bamboo? where does that fit in?

[velocity7]

That'd be Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody, which has not been covered and foreshadows Suzumiya Haruhi no Shoushitsu (The Disappearance of Suzumiya Haruhi). If they went that far, maybe they might make a second season?

Also, some things I thought about...

Spoiler for novels:

1. There was no need for Asahina Mikuru (adult) to come to the past to tell Kyon about Snow White. In fact, during the time he was stuck in closed space with Haruhi (volume 1), Yuki had given him the message "sleeping beauty". That alone would have been enough.

2. Asakura Ryouko is actually wrong in saying that Yuki might decide to kill Kyon because the higher-ups said so. Not because Yuki has some sort of "subtle love" for Kyon, but because at the time of volume 1, she was taking care of Kyon and Mikuru from the future (volume 3, Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody). If Kyon were to be killed then and there, there would certainly be a nasty time paradox, and Ryouko would be blamed for it. Of course, Yuki can't tell Ryouko that; call it a Temporal Prime Directive of sorts? (Star Trek ftw)

Based on that and the fact Yuki could contact her future self when Kyon and Mikuru approached her in Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody, Yuki probably predicted that she was going to win against Ryouko. The only thing she didn't know is whether Ryouko would surrender or if she would have her interface disconnected.

[CrowKenobi]

Originally Posted by velocity7

That'd be Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody, which has not been covered and foreshadows Suzumiya Haruhi no Shoushitsu (The Disappearance of Suzumiya Haruhi). If they went that far, maybe they might make a second season?

Also, some things I thought about...

Spoiler for novels:

1. There was no need for Asahina Mikuru (adult) to come to the past to tell Kyon about Snow White. In fact, during the time he was stuck in closed space with Haruhi (volume 1), Yuki had given him the message "sleeping beauty". That alone would have been enough.

2. Asakura Ryouko is actually wrong in saying that Yuki might decide to kill Kyon because the higher-ups said so. Not because Yuki has some sort of "subtle love" for Kyon, but because at the time of volume 1, she was taking care of Kyon and Mikuru from the future (volume 3, Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody). If Kyon were to be killed then and there, there would certainly be a nasty time paradox, and Ryouko would be blamed for it. Of course, Yuki can't tell Ryouko that; call it a Temporal Prime Directive of sorts? (Star Trek ftw)

Spoiler for Commentary on your first thought:

I don't believe that is true. If Kyon only got one "hint" he wouldn't know what part of the fairy tale is being referenced. It is only when he has both "hints" that he realizes what each tale has in common... and that is what he acts upon.

[velocity7]

Spoiler:

The problem is what gives Mikuru the motivation to go back into the past? Is it that she's destined to go back there, or was there something else involved that might have caused Kyon to not see what he had to do?