(L+CR) Space Battleship Yamato 2199 (movie & TV)

[Ithekro]

This does change a possible remake of a second series storyline. Probably no "Starflies" in the Yamato 2199 version of the second series. Cause the captain of that green Gamilas battlecarrier in 1978-79 was in command of that red battleship we just saw.

[YF19EX]

I can't wait to see how this will change the ending to the TV series and the 3 way battle that will probably be coming up!

[Ithekro]

Only a few days before it comes out.

[GundamFan0083]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

This does change a possible remake of a second series storyline. Probably no "Starflies" in the Yamato 2199 version of the second series. Cause the captain of that green Gamilas battlecarrier in 1978-79 was in command of that red battleship we just saw.

I'm hoping for a Garmilas-Terron alliance against Gatlantis.
It would--for me at least--make it more plausible that the people of Earth would be willing to forgive (to an extent) Garmilas for the war that ravaged Earth if Gatlantis is a greater threat and Garmilas comes to their aid.

Conversely, if Garmilas is the one in trouble (and it would make sense that they would be) and the Terrons come to their aid, it would certainly help solidify the worth of the Terrons in the eyes of the Garmilas I would think based on how they are portrayed as being honorable to some extent.

But, no matter what happens, I am confident that it will be worth watching.

[calubin_175]

Spoiler for The 9 minute preview:

Overpowered, seriously, in rapid succession too. The Megaluda Class definitely a tactical super weapon, if not a decisive weapon. I hope they won't have any more than 5 of them, but by Murphy's Law we may expect a combat unit full of them.

The fact that the decimated the Gamilias fleet include the remaining Zegutt shows that Gamilias' existing combat doctrine of heavy armor and power beam turrets just won't work. Maybe some other application of the matter transportation device will be probable. Of course, this mean Yamato won't need to get damaged by the flame gun since it has shown its prowess already against the non-protagonist.

But then, Gamilias still seems to have the monopoly in submarines.

The space marines reported that they were being attacked by an enemy carrier and fighters. I am not sure whether they could be Gatlantis or Gamilias.

[Ithekro]

A Earth-Gamilas alliance against Gatlantis (formal) would still need to address "what happened to Dessler?". There might be two factions of Gamilas. One allied with Yamato and one allied against Yamato. It might depend on which Talan is with Dessler I think. The older one was with him last time we saw Dessler. The younger one looks like the Talan that Dessler was usually with from Yamato 2 onwards. He was last seen on Gamilas talking with Deitz.

As for tactics to survive what happened?

Spoiler for Gatlantis vs Gamilas:

Gamilas would need to invest in more Dessler Cannons and probably larger carriers fitted with matter transporters. Transport attack craft combined with submarine attacks on the main Gatlantis super battleship and nutralize the Magnaflame gun or at least its teleporation system to cut its range down. Follow this up with mass Dessler Cannons at best possible range with wipe out the Comet Empire fleet from farther way that what Dommel was doing earlier in 2199.

Dessler's battleship seems to have a great range for its Dessler Cannon. Probably as long as the Magnaflame gun, just slower. Dessler was able to fire from Gamilas/Iscandar's orbit (fourth planetary orbit) to the fifth planetary orbit and just missed Yamato by about a meter. The Megaluda seems to have been much closer than that if the Gamilas were even trying to hit it with their weapons. Out of regular visual range, but close enough to see the explosion of the Gamilas flagship easily...so maybe the distance from Earth to the Moon....a light-second out...maybe a ten light-seconds out the most. Did the Gamilas give a distance to the enemy?

Maybe upgrade Dessler's flagship with a matter transporter that happens to be able to transport his Dessler Cannon beam as well as planes, destroyers, or "space mines".

I do wonder if Yamato's wave motion shields will block at least a partial hit form the Magnaflame gun. Enough so it won't be pierced like the Gamilas destroyers by the spiralling energy beams around the core blast.

The Earth Marines were probably attacked by the Gamilas carrier that attacked Yamato a day or two before it launched. Hijikata did wonder how that carrier had gotten so close back in episode 1 and 2. They were picked up my Kirishima not long after Yamato left Earth in episode 3.

[GundamFan0083]

I can see how the Megaluda's magna-flame gun will cause the need for the Earth to either convince Starsha to allow them to use the wave motion gun (make her change her mind) or defy Okita's promise and build ships with it anyway.

Just my opinion.

[macdawson]

So here's a basic description of the main action that takes place after that 9 minute clip:

Spoiler for Main Plot Points:

Yamato leaves the Great Magelanic Galaxy. With Mikage serving as narrator, we see Nanbu and Ishikawa (the new girl) relieving Kodai and Aihara. (Nanbu's station has been taken over by Kitano), the pilots having fun in their briefing room - except for Sawamura who seems a bit down because of all his dead comrades - and Niimi still sad about Mamoru's death. Mikage is in her quarters and so distracted recording her log she doesn't notice she's late for her shift. In the rush to leave she runs into Sawamura in the corridor. Nanbu and Kitano look at a monitor where we see the condition of the WMG, all energy conduits marked sealed and the trigger at the gunnery station with a red tape over it.

Kodai visits Okita who is listening to an old vinyl record and they have a conversation over some tea. Dr. Sado and Makoto arrive just as Kodai leaves. He meets Yamamoto in the elevator hub and the two have a long overdue talk, interrupted by Shima's arrival. In the lab, we see Mikage analysing wht seems to be a Garmillas translation device.

Deep space. The Lambea is undergoing repairs to the damage caused by Yamato's shock cannons. The Garlent heavy bomber is "landed" in the top deck. Berger watches an old recording of his girlfriend (she died a while back) until his presence is requested on the bridge. Baren and his crew shed tears as the Garlent - damaged beyond repair is jetissoned. Baren tells Berger the battlecarrier Mirangal is on its way to meet them.

Berger is less than pleased to learn about the cease fire between Garmillas and Earth. There's a long talk between him and Neredia - the 2 were an item back in the day. Suddenly Berger start hearing a son - similar to the eerie song we heard back in episode 14 when Yamato was caught in Mirenel's psychic net. Fade to black.

Shima, Yamaoto and Kodai meet Yuki on the observation deck for an impromptu photo shoot. Suddenly the ship is rocked by detonations. They rush to the bridge and Kodai wonders if the Garmillas are attacking them but the ship profiles don't match any Garmillas ships. They strike back with some king of fragmentation variant of the type-3 projectiles, turning the Devastators to scrap. In the nearby Kizca, captain Parakas contacts Dagam to report on the encounter. Dagam seems to be aware of who they are - reffering to them as Terrons - and issues the order to pursue.

Note: Gatlanteans seem to be a more barbaric race - hence the term used by the Garmillas to define them - having food on the main tactical display and tossing it asside when battle time comes, having drums on the bridge sounding the rush to battle, etc.

Yamato finds itself confronted with the unknown fleet - though they rapidly identify as Gatlantis, possibly due to information received from the Garmillas in episode 22 or after. A coms channel is open, prompting Shima to hutter "First Contact!". Dagam's face appears on the main viewer in classic Yamato style. He speaks in Gatlantean and Ishikawa translates. Eventually we hear the conversation flow in japanese. In the absence of Sanada, Kodai takes point and identifies himself as Susumu Kodai, XO of Yamato. Dagam demands their surrender and the conversation goes down hill from there.

Though he initially ordered the crew to battle stations and the Falcons to prepare to launch, Kodai decides to make a run for it in face of the large enemy numbers and unknown factors of dealing with their yet unknown tactics. Sanda, who stands in the back of the bridge, smiles as he looks at the young officer taking command.

Pursued by the enem, Yamato heads for a nearby planet with a strange hollow structure. A single Lascaux pursues it. Dagam readies the Flame Gun and, though his ship is in his direct line of fire, he order it to shoot the enemy. The Lascaux is blasted away and Yamato veers off just enough to avoid a direct hit, though the Wave-Motion Shield take a severe pounding, droping bellow 40%. The descend to the planet with Kukulcans pursuing. Swirving at full speed through the rocky formations and using them to avoid enemy fire, Yamato gets some shots in. Unfortunately, the Gatlanteans fire causes severe damage to some of the structure... the planet arbors a massive hive of jelly-fish like space creature that respond to the destruction by attaching themselves to the ships hulls, absorbing energy right out of them. Eventually, larger creatures attack, one to each ship. When a Gatlantis vessel tries to shoot a creature off its gun turret, the creature simply absorbs the blast, and surges it back, blowing the ship up.

With energy levels dropping and runnign out of room to fly, Yamato goes into warp in the hopes of forcing the creatures loose. As they release Yamato, they overload and detonate, causing a massive explosion that obliterates a sizeable part of the planet. Dagam is not pleased.

Yamato's crew awake, having been rendered unconcious by the concussion blast. They find themselves in a sea of grys clouds with a glowing ringed planet in the center. Yamato starts moving on its own - prompting Kodai to recall what happened in episoe 14 (see a patern yet? ). Shima is unable to regain control as Yamato is taken into the clouds and all the way to a massive structure covered in writing.

They decide to go down to the planet, having detected a Garmillas distress signal. Kodai, Niimi, Aihara, Mikage and Sawamura, along with Analyzer, descend using the White Stork. Just as they submerge in the planet's water surface, it seems to crack like glass and contact is lost.

Kodai eventually regains control of the White Stork and they find themselves over a large jungle. Mikage finds the landscape strangely familiar. They make a water landing in a river and make it ashore but eventually, even the White Stork's exceptional all terrain capabilities are not enough to navigate the dense jungle. They leave Analyzer aboard to try and regain contact with Yamato as they proceed on foot to try and find the source of the signal.

Mikage says the jungle looks just like the Amazon, which she visited with her mother when she was a little girl. Sawamura says all jungles look alike but she replies this one is exactly the same. They're interrupted by Aihara that call them to a nearby ridge. Bellow them is... Yamato. The WW II battleship.

As they board the vessel they find themselves in a hotel lobby, eventually finding Berger, Neredia, Baren and Melhi in a lounge. They see the Garmillas dressed in Earth clothes but the Garmillas see them in Zaltzi uniforms, prompting them to believe they're Zaltz soldiers. Kodai maintains the ruse, for the time being.

They seem to be trapped there. The doors all lead back to the main hall and the elevator to the top floors is locked. Sawamura fall into a hole in a corridor through which they try to dig a way out. At night in her room, Mikage hears an eerie whisper.

Note: During all these scenes, Melhi seems to be progressivelly loosing his mind.

Meanwhile, Yamato keeps its position, trying to regain contact with their crew members. Almost 6 hours have passed (showing their perception of time iside the phenomenon is askew).

Eventually, Mikage goes to the Yamato's conning tower, where she finds Melhi, who has a bag of food with him - they been rationing whatever food they could find all this time. Melhi ays he knows they're not Zaltzi but Terrons and draws a gun on her. The situation scalates and eventually they're all in the tower. Berger tries to talk his friend out of his lunacy, but soon realizes Melhi is right and Kodai and the others are from Yamato. As Melhi prepares to fire, Sawamura drops from above, causing him to drop the bag. Instead of food, there's a skull... They're now in a dark room, surrounded by adorned collums and in a corner, a pile of long dead bodies... Neredia says they're Gatlantean soldiers which wondered into the phenomenon and died long ago. Berger asks how she know about that. Neredia glows and turns in Sharbat (or something like that), claiming she is an Akerian. (As she talks we hear Tereza's theme, an amazing rendition of the theme)

Whatever comes next is reliant in understanding the japanese dialogue which i do not, so i'll jump forward. And because this becomes a massive action sequence and i saw this part in bits and peaces, here's just the jist of it.

- Dagam and his fleet arrive at the phenomenon.

- Neredia - the real one, that has been on the Lambea all along - takes the Garmillas fleet and joins Yamato against their common enemy.

- The "hostages" of the phenomenon are sent back to their ships.

- Kodai takes command of Yamato into battle and in a massive homage to the Battle of Saturn, they fight the Gatlanteans in the rings of the "phantom planet".

- The battle is massive and must be seen to be believed. I'll just say it puts even the Rainbow Star Cluster Battle to shame.

- Of course they eventually win the day, with Kodai using a totally insane maneuver to beat Dagam.

- After the battle is won the phenomenon collapses, revealing a massive device, to which Sanada reffer to as Overtechnology. After a message from Sharbat, the device zooms away - totally different warping technology.

- The remnants of the Garmillas fleet part ways with yamato who flies off towards the Milky Way.

Epilogue: In a mid-credits scene, we jump forward and, as a nice bookend to the inicial scene, we see Saito, now the Security Chief at the UNCF HQ barging in on the main control room and confronting Hijikata. Just as they talk, a radio message comes in... Yamato has returned.

Roll Credits.

Any questions, feel free to ask. If i still recall it, i'll try to answer.

I've also posted some screen caps at my FB Yamato 2199 page
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...8288778&type=1

[Ithekro]

Well. That's a lot of things.

[GundamFan0083]

Originally Posted by macdawson

So here's a basic description of the main action that takes place after that 9 minute clip:

Spoiler for Main Plot Points:

Yamato leaves the Great Magelanic Galaxy. With Mikage serving as narrator, we see Nanbu and Ishikawa (the new girl) relieving Kodai and Aihara. (Nanbu's station has been taken over by Kitano), the pilots having fun in their briefing room - except for Sawamura who seems a bit down because of all his dead comrades - and Niimi still sad about Mamoru's death. Mikage is in her quarters and so distracted recording her log she doesn't notice she's late for her shift. In the rush to leave she runs into Sawamura in the corridor. Nanbu and Kitano look at a monitor where we see the condition of the WMG, all energy conduits marked sealed and the trigger at the gunnery station with a red tape over it.

Kodai visits Okita who is listening to an old vinyl record and they have a conversation over some tea. Dr. Sado and Makoto arrive just as Kodai leaves. He meets Yamamoto in the elevator hub and the two have a long overdue talk, interrupted by Shima's arrival. In the lab, we see Mikage analysing wht seems to be a Garmillas translation device.

Deep space. The Lambea is undergoing repairs to the damage caused by Yamato's shock cannons. The Garlent heavy bomber is "landed" in the top deck. Berger watches an old recording of his girlfriend (she died a while back) until his presence is requested on the bridge. Baren and his crew shed tears as the Garlent - damaged beyond repair is jetissoned. Baren tells Berger the battlecarrier Mirangal is on its way to meet them.

Berger is less than pleased to learn about the cease fire between Garmillas and Earth. There's a long talk between him and Neredia - the 2 were an item back in the day. Suddenly Berger start hearing a son - similar to the eerie song we heard back in episode 14 when Yamato was caught in Mirenel's psychic net. Fade to black.

Shima, Yamaoto and Kodai meet Yuki on the observation deck for an impromptu photo shoot. Suddenly the ship is rocked by detonations. They rush to the bridge and Kodai wonders if the Garmillas are attacking them but the ship profiles don't match any Garmillas ships. They strike back with some king of fragmentation variant of the type-3 projectiles, turning the Devastators to scrap. In the nearby Kizca, captain Parakas contacts Dagam to report on the encounter. Dagam seems to be aware of who they are - reffering to them as Terrons - and issues the order to pursue.

Note: Gatlanteans seem to be a more barbaric race - hence the term used by the Garmillas to define them - having food on the main tactical display and tossing it asside when battle time comes, having drums on the bridge sounding the rush to battle, etc.

Yamato finds itself confronted with the unknown fleet - though they rapidly identify as Gatlantis, possibly due to information received from the Garmillas in episode 22 or after. A coms channel is open, prompting Shima to hutter "First Contact!". Dagam's face appears on the main viewer in classic Yamato style. He speaks in Gatlantean and Ishikawa translates. Eventually we hear the conversation flow in japanese. In the absence of Sanada, Kodai takes point and identifies himself as Susumu Kodai, XO of Yamato. Dagam demands their surrender and the conversation goes down hill from there.

Though he initially ordered the crew to battle stations and the Falcons to prepare to launch, Kodai decides to make a run for it in face of the large enemy numbers and unknown factors of dealing with their yet unknown tactics. Sanda, who stands in the back of the bridge, smiles as he looks at the young officer taking command.

Pursued by the enem, Yamato heads for a nearby planet with a strange hollow structure. A single Lascaux pursues it. Dagam readies the Flame Gun and, though his ship is in his direct line of fire, he order it to shoot the enemy. The Lascaux is blasted away and Yamato veers off just enough to avoid a direct hit, though the Wave-Motion Shield take a severe pounding, droping bellow 40%. The descend to the planet with Kukulcans pursuing. Swirving at full speed through the rocky formations and using them to avoid enemy fire, Yamato gets some shots in. Unfortunately, the Gatlanteans fire causes severe damage to some of the structure... the planet arbors a massive hive of jelly-fish like space creature that respond to the destruction by attaching themselves to the ships hulls, absorbing energy right out of them. Eventually, larger creatures attack, one to each ship. When a Gatlantis vessel tries to shoot a creature off its gun turret, the creature simply absorbs the blast, and surges it back, blowing the ship up.

With energy levels dropping and runnign out of room to fly, Yamato goes into warp in the hopes of forcing the creatures loose. As they release Yamato, they overload and detonate, causing a massive explosion that obliterates a sizeable part of the planet. Dagam is not pleased.

Yamato's crew awake, having been rendered unconcious by the concussion blast. They find themselves in a sea of grys clouds with a glowing ringed planet in the center. Yamato starts moving on its own - prompting Kodai to recall what happened in episoe 14 (see a patern yet? ). Shima is unable to regain control as Yamato is taken into the clouds and all the way to a massive structure covered in writing.

They decide to go down to the planet, having detected a Garmillas distress signal. Kodai, Niimi, Aihara, Mikage and Sawamura, along with Analyzer, descend using the White Stork. Just as they submerge in the planet's water surface, it seems to crack like glass and contact is lost.

Kodai eventually regains control of the White Stork and they find themselves over a large jungle. Mikage finds the landscape strangely familiar. They make a water landing in a river and make it ashore but eventually, even the White Stork's exceptional all terrain capabilities are not enough to navigate the dense jungle. They leave Analyzer aboard to try and regain contact with Yamato as they proceed on foot to try and find the source of the signal.

Mikage says the jungle looks just like the Amazon, which she visited with her mother when she was a little girl. Sawamura says all jungles look alike but she replies this one is exactly the same. They're interrupted by Aihara that call them to a nearby ridge. Bellow them is... Yamato. The WW II battleship.

As they board the vessel they find themselves in a hotel lobby, eventually finding Berger, Neredia, Baren and Melhi in a lounge. They see the Garmillas dressed in Earth clothes but the Garmillas see them in Zaltzi uniforms, prompting them to believe they're Zaltz soldiers. Kodai maintains the ruse, for the time being.

They seem to be trapped there. The doors all lead back to the main hall and the elevator to the top floors is locked. Sawamura fall into a hole in a corridor through which they try to dig a way out. At night in her room, Mikage hears an eerie whisper.

Note: During all these scenes, Melhi seems to be progressivelly loosing his mind.

Meanwhile, Yamato keeps its position, trying to regain contact with their crew members. Almost 6 hours have passed (showing their perception of time iside the phenomenon is askew).

Eventually, Mikage goes to the Yamato's conning tower, where she finds Melhi, who has a bag of food with him - they been rationing whatever food they could find all this time. Melhi ays he knows they're not Zaltzi but Terrons and draws a gun on her. The situation scalates and eventually they're all in the tower. Berger tries to talk his friend out of his lunacy, but soon realizes Melhi is right and Kodai and the others are from Yamato. As Melhi prepares to fire, Sawamura drops from above, causing him to drop the bag. Instead of food, there's a skull... They're now in a dark room, surrounded by adorned collums and in a corner, a pile of long dead bodies... Neredia says they're Gatlantean soldiers which wondered into the phenomenon and died long ago. Berger asks how she know about that. Neredia glows and turns in Sharbat (or something like that), claiming she is an Akerian. (As she talks we hear Tereza's theme, an amazing rendition of the theme)

Whatever comes next is reliant in understanding the japanese dialogue which i do not, so i'll jump forward. And because this becomes a massive action sequence and i saw this part in bits and peaces, here's just the jist of it.

- Dagam and his fleet arrive at the phenomenon.

- Neredia - the real one, that has been on the Lambea all along - takes the Garmillas fleet and joins Yamato against their common enemy.

- The "hostages" of the phenomenon are sent back to their ships.

- Kodai takes command of Yamato into battle and in a massive homage to the Battle of Saturn, they fight the Gatlanteans in the rings of the "phantom planet".

- The battle is massive and must be seen to be believed. I'll just say it puts even the Rainbow Star Cluster Battle to shame.

- Of course they eventually win the day, with Kodai using a totally insane maneuver to beat Dagam.

- After the battle is won the phenomenon collapses, revealing a massive device, to which Sanada reffer to as Overtechnology. After a message from Sharbat, the device zooms away - totally different warping technology.

- The remnants of the Garmillas fleet part ways with yamato who flies off towards the Milky Way.

Epilogue: In a mid-credits scene, we jump forward and, as a nice bookend to the inicial scene, we see Saito, now the Security Chief at the UNCF HQ barging in on the main control room and confronting Hijikata. Just as they talk, a radio message comes in... Yamato has returned.

Roll Credits.

Any questions, feel free to ask. If i still recall it, i'll try to answer.

I've also posted some screen caps at my FB Yamato 2199 page
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...8288778&type=1

Thank you for that detailed summary mcdawson.
It is appreciated.

Anybody know when the Blue Ray will be coming out, and if it will have subtitles in English?

I ask, because when it comes out on Amazon.jp I would like to buy it.

[macdawson]

No date has yet been announced for the release. Take notice this is different from the previous releases. Chapters 1 to 7 had a limited theatrical release and was meant as a home vídeo release from the start. VtR was a compilation movie and though it received a wider theatrical release, it was basically reused material. This is a nation wide release of a brand new feature film. Advanced release of blu-rays could hurt the box office, so it was probably demanded by the many theatres that joined in to hold it off until it had finished its theatrical run. But i'm sure we'll soon have news on that front. And given the patern the series has show, its almost certain it will have english subtitles. Lets wait and see.

[Ithekro]

It looks like some of the plot elements are touching on things from later stories. So that it can still be done, and yet make sense.

[Top Sergeant]

I wonder if, this time around, they will remember that their Magna Flame Gun won't work in the deadly cold of Saturn's ice ring?

[Ithekro]

What the film needs in the west is a good review.

[Ingram]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

What the film needs in the west is a good review.

It does? After the TV series, I'm perfectly willing to import it sight-unseen. ^^

[Ithekro]

I mean more for those that still have not see the series for whatever reason.

[Vito]

Heh, not even Yamato can escape the cleavage meme going around

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[Ithekro]

So basically the old Power Girl look.

Also Yamato2199.net has put up some images from the movie (probably spoilers included).

http://yamato2199.net/info/special/546/

[Qikz]

Originally Posted by Vito

Heh, not even Yamato can escape the cleavage meme going around

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Bless you kind sir.

[Vito]

Nice:

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