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Key Board · 2011-09-17, 23:41

From what I've seen Yukiko's reaction time is too damn slow to properly compete with the others..

Too much lag

Shiroth · 2011-09-18, 04:03

I've never been a fan of alternate colour costumes in 2D fighting games.

Ashaman · 2011-09-18, 04:51

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Originally Posted by Shiroth

I've never been a fan of alternate colour costumes in 2D fighting games.

I usually don't mind them, but the ones I've seen here are atrocious.

They should have been their shadow forms instead, where applicable.

Westlo · 2011-09-18, 05:14

You have to realize that alternate costumes in a 2d fighting game is only really alternate colors. If you gave character A a cape and a helmet you would have to reanimate so much shit it's not funny. It's why 3D fighters have always had completely different costumes whereas 2d is palette swaps, sometimes it takes upto months just to animate 1 character like for KOFXIII which has much better animation than an ASW game.

The way Skullgirls is doing things is pretty innovative though.

Shiroth · 2011-09-18, 06:06

Oh i know why there are alternate colours in 2D fighting games instead of costumes, i'm just not fond of changing to a different colour when i play, that's all.

Though with that said, i didn't mind some of the different alternate colours for Guilty Gear X2 Reload.

Shiroth · 2011-09-19, 12:42

Second PV.

Nothing really new, though it's a nice watch. Features some gameplay, an introduction to the five character we've seen in action, and a nice little Persona 3 mention. Still only just Aegis shown.

Rayneing · 2011-09-19, 22:12

Siliconera Article with some discussion about some of the game mechanics.

Quote:

Persona 4: The Ultimate in Mayonaka Arena uses a four button control scheme. A is for weak attack, B is strong attack, C is Persona attack, and D is persona rush. The most basic combo is A –> B –> C. The persona rush move sends your persona at an enemy sort of like a partner character. As an extension of Yu, Izanagi gives him about an extra body length of range when using a persona attack. All of the special attacks are done with various button rolls. Yu can dive towards enemies with his sword or shoot lightning with Zio. Arc System Works stuck with the source material by basic specials off skills and spells from Persona 4. Yu’s super move is Ziodyne, a powerful lightning spell that saps 50 SP. You don’t need chewing souls to recover SP in this game, hitting your enemy fills up the super gauge.

Shiroth · 2011-09-20, 04:46

As expected, the game handles just like BlazBlue, but sticking closely to the Persona 4 move list from the original game. I can see that awakening mode being pretty annoying when it comes to online matches.

kuroishinigami · 2011-09-20, 08:49

I still don't get the joke on Yousuke's character introduction. Can somebody explain to me what's the joke about? (I love the hagane no siscon banchou BTW :P)

Key Board · 2011-09-20, 19:35

Yousuke = Captain Ressentiment
Ressentiment is a word that shows up during the original game. It means hatred and jealousy.

It maybe a parody on how Yousuke always falls behind the protagonist is and is comfortable with it. Maybe.. The announcer is obviously trying to be mean to everyone.

Chie = The meat eater who threw away her femininity

Protagonist = The classroom thug in chief with a sister complex

EmagEvil · 2011-09-21, 09:09

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Originally Posted by Shiroth

Second PV.

... Heu... It's exactly the same than this previous one...

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Originally Posted by Laith

Ressentiment is a french word about jealousy and envious, but i don't think hate is in... Yousuke said it in his route in P4.

All those 3 nicknames correspond pretty well with their owners...

Sageblink · 2011-09-21, 10:00

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Originally Posted by EmagEvil

Ressentiment is a french word about jealousy and envious, but i don't think hate is in... Yousuke said it in his route in P4.

Ressentiment was never associated with envy or jealousy.

When you have a "ressentiment", it means you bear a grudge on something.

kuroishinigami · 2011-09-21, 18:53

Ah, so that's it. I got the other joke, but Japanglish is not really my strong point. It took me quite a while to realize that cohii is Japan for cofee lol.

Tong · 2011-09-23, 12:33

Combo movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSktJ7f-3x0

Game looks pretty raw so far, and did you guys notice there is not 623/Dragon Punch commands? This game seems to have beginners or non-fighting game players in mind.

Rayneing · 2011-09-23, 12:43

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Originally Posted by Tong

Combo movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSktJ7f-3x0

Game looks pretty raw so far, and did you guys notice there is not 623/Dragon Punch commands? This game seems to have beginners or non-fighting game players in mind.

...No DP commands? That's kind of... weird. I guess everyone doesn't have a whole lot of special moves in general then?

Tong · 2011-09-23, 13:37

This is the movelist:

http://p-atlus.jp/kouhou/TGS_p4u_2.jpg

Here's 1 hour worth of footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwNkns9FQqU

The shortage of moves is more than compensated by the extensive game systems. As one would expect from a combo/asw game there is:

-One more cancel
Just like to BB/GG rapid/roman cancels.

-R Action
A move with invicible propeties, similar to Dead Angle/Counter Assault I believe. Costs HP "blue HP" which can be recovered by not getting hit, like Focus Absorb from SF4

-Burst
Comes in three shapes, Max, Reversal, One more.
Max fills all your SP, can be done by hitting in neutral (not blocking, not attacking)
Reversal is your typical Burst, saves you while defending or being hit. Sends your opponent away.
One more extends your combos. Execute while combo'ing your opponent.

-Beat Down Rush followup
Works like Guilty Gear dust attacks. Auto-combos and allows 2 finishes: Launches the opponent or knocks them away.

-Awakening
A comeback mechanic. When low on health, you'll get a defense bonus(less damage taken), allows Awakening Super(The ultimate move), +50SP Gain and doubles your SP gauge(becomes red).

Rayneing · 2011-09-23, 15:59

The 'R Action' appears to be a character dependent reversal of some sort. Yu's is the shoryuken type move he has, and I believe Yukiko does an Anji-esque fan move with guard points/super armour all over it.

Apart from the weird movelist (nothing but quarter circles? really?), I like what I see so far. Especially the Guilty Gear style bursts. Also, it appears that ground teching is done SF4 style, only quick or delayed wakeups, no side rolling.

Frailty · 2011-09-23, 22:24

Narukami's attacks are kinda similar to Ky from GG lol.

and why is Kanji's weapon still a chair, shouldn't it already be a shield?
Like Narukami now having a sword instead of a golf club and Yosuke having Wrenches
oh well

and why the hell are they not wearing their glasses

Spoiler for P4 spoilers:

Sageblink · 2011-09-24, 00:56

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Originally Posted by Frailty

Nand why the hell are they not wearing their glasses

Spoiler for P4 spoilers:

It's in option.
When you select a character, you can put the glasses on.

SilverSyko · 2011-10-24, 13:53

Atlus just concretely confirmed Teddie and Naoto's playability in the game with a bunch of new screenshots.~

Teddie is described as a "tricky" character:

Spoiler for Teddie screens:

And since Naoto uses a gun, a lot of her attacks have range:

Spoiler for Naoto screens:

2011-09-17, 23:41	Link #61
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	From what I've seen Yukiko's reaction time is too damn slow to properly compete with the others.. Too much lag __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2011-09-18, 04:03	Link #62
Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	I've never been a fan of alternate colour costumes in 2D fighting games. __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter

2011-09-18, 06:06	Link #65
Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	Oh i know why there are alternate colours in 2D fighting games instead of costumes, i'm just not fond of changing to a different colour when i play, that's all. Though with that said, i didn't mind some of the different alternate colours for Guilty Gear X2 Reload. __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter

2011-09-19, 12:42	Link #66
Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	Second PV. <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/Jpq41IqOjPM">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> Nothing really new, though it's a nice watch. Features some gameplay, an introduction to the five character we've seen in action, and a nice little Persona 3 mention. Still only just Aegis shown. __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter

2011-09-20, 04:46	Link #68
Shiroth Beautiful fighter. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: England, UK Age: 37	As expected, the game handles just like BlazBlue, but sticking closely to the Persona 4 move list from the original game. I can see that awakening mode being pretty annoying when it comes to online matches. __________________ MyAnimeList Twitter

2011-09-18, 05:14	Link #64
Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007	You have to realize that alternate costumes in a 2d fighting game is only really alternate colors. If you gave character A a cape and a helmet you would have to reanimate so much shit it's not funny. It's why 3D fighters have always had completely different costumes whereas 2d is palette swaps, sometimes it takes upto months just to animate 1 character like for KOFXIII which has much better animation than an ASW game. The way Skullgirls is doing things is pretty innovative though.

2011-09-20, 08:49	Link #69
kuroishinigami Ava courtesy of patchy Join Date: Jan 2009	I still don't get the joke on Yousuke's character introduction. Can somebody explain to me what's the joke about? (I love the hagane no siscon banchou BTW :P)

2011-09-20, 19:35	Link #70
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	Yousuke = Captain Ressentiment Ressentiment is a word that shows up during the original game. It means hatred and jealousy. It maybe a parody on how Yousuke always falls behind the protagonist is and is comfortable with it. Maybe.. The announcer is obviously trying to be mean to everyone. Chie = The meat eater who threw away her femininity Protagonist = The classroom thug in chief with a sister complex __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2011-09-21, 18:53	Link #73
kuroishinigami Ava courtesy of patchy Join Date: Jan 2009	Ah, so that's it. I got the other joke, but Japanglish is not really my strong point. It took me quite a while to realize that cohii is Japan for cofee lol.

2011-09-23, 12:33	Link #74
Tong Many RPGs, Little Time Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: BR Age: 32	Combo movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSktJ7f-3x0 Game looks pretty raw so far, and did you guys notice there is not 623/Dragon Punch commands? This game seems to have beginners or non-fighting game players in mind. __________________

2011-09-23, 13:37	Link #76
Tong Many RPGs, Little Time Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: BR Age: 32	This is the movelist: http://p-atlus.jp/kouhou/TGS_p4u_2.jpg Here's 1 hour worth of footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwNkns9FQqU The shortage of moves is more than compensated by the extensive game systems. As one would expect from a combo/asw game there is: -One more cancel Just like to BB/GG rapid/roman cancels. -R Action A move with invicible propeties, similar to Dead Angle/Counter Assault I believe. Costs HP "blue HP" which can be recovered by not getting hit, like Focus Absorb from SF4 -Burst Comes in three shapes, Max, Reversal, One more. Max fills all your SP, can be done by hitting in neutral (not blocking, not attacking) Reversal is your typical Burst, saves you while defending or being hit. Sends your opponent away. One more extends your combos. Execute while combo'ing your opponent. -Beat Down Rush followup Works like Guilty Gear dust attacks. Auto-combos and allows 2 finishes: Launches the opponent or knocks them away. -Awakening A comeback mechanic. When low on health, you'll get a defense bonus(less damage taken), allows Awakening Super(The ultimate move), +50SP Gain and doubles your SP gauge(becomes red). __________________

2011-09-23, 15:59	Link #77
Rayneing Trombe! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England. Age: 33	The 'R Action' appears to be a character dependent reversal of some sort. Yu's is the shoryuken type move he has, and I believe Yukiko does an Anji-esque fan move with guard points/super armour all over it. Apart from the weird movelist (nothing but quarter circles? really?), I like what I see so far. Especially the Guilty Gear style bursts. Also, it appears that ground teching is done SF4 style, only quick or delayed wakeups, no side rolling. __________________

2011-09-23, 22:24	Link #78
Frailty Constellation Graphic Designer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pearl of the Orient Seas Age: 31	Narukami's attacks are kinda similar to Ky from GG lol. and why is Kanji's weapon still a chair, shouldn't it already be a shield? Like Narukami now having a sword instead of a golf club and Yosuke having Wrenches oh well and why the hell are they not wearing their glasses Spoiler for P4 spoilers: I know that on the True ending that the mist is gone but still, they should've kept it. it looks better __________________

2011-10-24, 13:53	Link #80
SilverSyko Okuyasu the Bird Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 32	Atlus just concretely confirmed Teddie and Naoto's playability in the game with a bunch of new screenshots.~ Teddie is described as a "tricky" character: Spoiler for Teddie screens: And since Naoto uses a gun, a lot of her attacks have range: Spoiler for Naoto screens: __________________