2014-05-17, 16:03 | Link #3842 | |
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In last the plot goes around medicine that allows mind control... or more like brainwash forcing one individual to do certain thing..for snipers it was beliving gromo is god Sophie was nervous for a while... gromo used a lot of energy and it looks like after he met shioon he started to have headaches....sophie mentioned in chapter 157 "no it cant happen now" and next talking about his condition (while all sweating) gromo started to become suspicous of what is sophie talking about... and wolf next saw what is going on (since suc is giving the mind control pills as its part of their plan) and just didnt want to fight someone who is not himself all wolf wanted was to see the real gromo that his own master sacraficed his life to protect.... he acepted gromos skill... but he didnt saw the "person/will/spirit" of that person.... mostly he noticed that Gromo is more of a pupet that others are using for their benefits then shioon was (showing skill and spirit which made wolfs heart beat faster) If gromo is under mind control pills or brainwashed (or pills that give such efects...that they lose themselfs and do as told)... he might not remember shioon and thats whats ringing in his head right now as pills effects wear off and memories start to flow back.... wolf might have noticed that talking with gromo right now is useless as he is not himself... gromo might not remember the past at all which makes him angry since wolf on that balcony asked him about ugwol and gromo got all angry like a beast from the past (hate alliance where he tried to attack kwon) |
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2014-05-17, 21:34 | Link #3843 |
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First off gmr is not under suc, nor is there any evidence that bfd is using mind control. Do you really think someone can force him to take any pills he doesn't want to? Secondly he remembered shion just fine. He also remembered his grudge with the murim alliance. All that about him not remembering is just speculation at best at this point in time. Wolf wanted to know why unwol cast him out and taught gmr. He also wanted to learn what hyun wun Ji kyung is. Check ch 105 page 4 says it there. Currently he doesn't have either of those answers, so there is no point in switching sides. |
2014-05-17, 22:11 | Link #3844 | |
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His Cigarettes are laced with the drug. Should've listened to Shioon and quit. |
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2014-05-17, 22:29 | Link #3845 | |
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What I think is most damning to the whole wolf changing side is the comments on page 14 ch 157. Also why would Sophia ask gmr to be mindful of his condition if she was dosing with mind control drugs? |
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2014-05-17, 22:51 | Link #3846 | |
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Although I do agree that something has been done to 9AD(probably by the BFD), but still it's best not to make longwinded speculations because there's always that one commenter who will refute in a way as if what they say is an absolute fact (like their the author or something ) So just wait until the mystery is revealed. |
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2014-05-17, 22:59 | Link #3847 | ||
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To be fair, after Sohpia said that he replied "What are you trying to.." like he was confused. Even after Ryuji said he isn't his true self he was confused. As for Ryuji changing sides, that theory has existed ever since he was introduced. I don't think that particular part is damning at all either. You interpret it as him backing out because the elder said so, but his comments afterwards criticizing it as a "foolish endeavor" can open it up as Ryuji washing his hands clean of them and walking away. It really depends on what you happen to focus on. I mean, the drugs theory is present on a lot of other forums, so is Ryuji changing sides, so there's a pretty large group of people that think it's going to happen. Quote:
I kind of do hope his cigarettes are laced though. |
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2014-05-17, 23:04 | Link #3848 | |
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@anofnfr that's not how I interpreted it. I just thought the whole if murim found out who you are you would have to fight everyone alone comment was interesting. It's like there is more to wolf than we know |
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2014-05-17, 23:32 | Link #3849 | |
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But let me get this straight, do you think the elder was threatening to expose Ryuji instead of ordering him? |
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2014-05-18, 00:27 | Link #3854 | ||
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Un Wol was considered the greatest power of his generation, he was feared, as is Chun Woo. Ryuji being a disciple of Un Wol could have a lot of implications. The Black Heaven and Earth technique isn't everything, Kwon doesn't have it and he's still crazy powerful. Ryuji might not know the ki circulation technique(not breathing) But he still knows the full extent of the Black Heaven and Earth style. I've started to think I've underestimated how strong he is. Either way, there's multiple reasons one can come up with for why it would make sense. It could be something more, but I don't see what it could possibly be. |
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2014-05-18, 01:04 | Link #3855 | |
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2014-05-18, 01:15 | Link #3856 | |
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The old chairman and his motives aside though, the rest of Murim might have a different mindset than the old chairman. The Old Chairman might not care about Ryuji, but him being Un Wol's disciple might sprout some fear in others. |
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2014-05-18, 13:33 | Link #3858 | |
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Basically, Shioon is closer than anyone else to mastering the BOT, he can already retain his martial arts under it's effects, and he's apparently mastered the meditation technique almost completely with the triple blossom thing he's doing. So he's closer to being able to master BOT than UN-Wol or 9AD. So if 9AD's condition is related to his use of BOT it can effect Shioon later on and that whole plot point is shot down. But, yeah the idea has been put out there. |
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2014-05-18, 13:52 | Link #3859 | |
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2014-05-18, 14:12 | Link #3860 | |
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I actually think it could be a mixture of both. Like, it could be drugs and overuse of the BOT. Or BOT and a mystery condition. For some reason I don't think it's just one thing. |
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