2012-09-13, 22:43 | Link #10443 |
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Most of the chapter was actually quite good, and the sort of believable character drama I really got into Medaka Box for to begin with.
But Iihiko Shishime? Fifteen seconds? Fuck no, that's astoundingly fucking retarded. I want to drop this terrible shit but I can't, because I have to know how it ends. I feel like a fucking Bleach reader. |
2012-09-13, 23:09 | Link #10444 |
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I think my main complaint is that shit is just way too fast. I can't get aclimatized properly. I mean, at one moment we're exploring Shiranui's character, and then at the other, BAM! Wall to the face.
Plus, I kinda liked Shiranui's "older" characterization better. We used to think she didn't give a fuck and literally cared for only one person in the entire school. But that's just opinion. Edit: My reading comprehension might be off on my second point, though. |
2012-09-13, 23:23 | Link #10445 |
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I guess these cerebus retcons can get a bit tiring. I don't really know if I like the direction they're taking Shiranui's character.
Ouch Hitoyoshi, being told of his bridging status to Medaka...that's just harsh. Perhaps it's just jerkass facade, but still.. And when are we going to learn about Real Eater? |
2012-09-13, 23:27 | Link #10446 | |
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Skills? What are those? We have Styles and magic bullshit demons now. |
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2012-09-13, 23:27 | Link #10447 | ||
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Allow me to explain. When I first read the manga, I liked Shiranui because she clearly did not give a shit for anyone and anything except for Zenkichi. That made her unique. If she's just another character who "opened-up" to the whole of Hakoniwa, I think that would kill something that made her unique. Although, that would depend on how you read this chapter Quote:
I think there's really no doubt about it anymore. Zenkichi never was the main character, even after and during the Not-Equal arc, when we were lead to believe he was the main-character all along/would be. That kinda cheapens Nishio's supposed deconstruction of Mary Sues by, well, completely. But whatever. I'm past the point of caring, I guess. Last edited by Wolfenstein; 2012-09-13 at 23:43. |
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2012-09-13, 23:53 | Link #10451 | |
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On a less joking manner though, it's something I've been thinking about recently, but I've suddenly felt/realized that Kumagawa's char concept is closer to Nios's other 'protagonists' (like from Zaregoto or Bakemonogatari) then Zen. At least in my opinion.
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2012-09-14, 00:02 | Link #10452 | |
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2012-09-14, 00:33 | Link #10458 |
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lol. Kumagawa's explanation of Shiranui's feelings being with Zen only because of the "whole school" is obviously bullshit. The real implied reason obviously is that she's in love with him. Just take Shiranui's violent reaction to some random guy saying Zenkichi was just a nobody/support character a couple chapters back. She clearly hasn't got (and doesn't even want, probably) a genuine grasp over her emotions.
Now, why would Kumagawa lie like that? Maybe 'cause he's just minus like that. lol, or maybe it's because, as a Minus, he understands Shiranui and decided to use some tact in discussing Shiranui's feelings. If you ask me, Kumagawa does possess much more of the classic appeal and interestingness of Nishio's characters. Nishio's protags generally aren't vanilla, straight-laced, normal chumps like Zenkichi. They're usually a bit more broken. But hey, Nishio's obviously got some sort of plan behind this setup and characterization. (For the record, everybody did notice Kumagawa's feelings for Medaka being alluded to in this chapter again, right? When Shiranui noted why Kumagawa disliked Zenkichi. Even if I don't get my preferred ending, this dynamic is obviously gonna be developed going forward as a theme.) Also, the new darkness/devil (he's got a lot of the classic Japanese/buddhist Asura iconography) character is fucking awesome. As a comparison to another element introduced recently, I already like him more than Kurokami Kajiki. If you guys think about it, the theme of some sort of rampaging, unstoppable darkness lurking in the back/depths of this story has been sitting around since forever, hasn't it? To the extent that I was thinking it might be possible that that would be the next major plotline, after the Not Equals arc, back when everybody was panicking about the manga ending. I'm gonna bet right now that this Iihiko guy has something to do with the "inconceivable darkness" deep inside Medaka. The potential/idea of a fight between them, and Medaka revisiting that state, is fucking awesome. |
2012-09-14, 00:43 | Link #10459 | ||
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I will explain why. This is because when you create a character who is defined as being unbeatable, unstoppable, invincible, and immortal, you cannot create a character who is a credible threat for her without them also being unbeatable, unstoppable, invincible, and immortal, a matchup that can only result in a tie. Instead, Ajimu seems convinced that this devil-creature is going to completely flatten her, and that is amazingly stupid. Last edited by Tyabann; 2012-09-14 at 18:38. |
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2012-09-14, 01:05 | Link #10460 | ||
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Remember that while Ajimu seems to have perfect command and knowledge over the Medaka Box universe, she nonetheless was never the one who created it. The Medaka Box world was created, and then Ajimu encountered it, searched for impossibilities, and gained mastery over it. Basically, it's very likely that this rampaging Iihiko guy who has been implied to be somewhere on the same level as the Not Equals is intricately connected to the actual creation of the Medaka Box universe--that unusual/extraordinary force which also gives rise to such 'inexplicable' occurrences as those original Abnormal and Minus phenomenons. It is perfectly reasonable that an existence on this level would be able to challenge Ajimu/the Shiranuis/the Not Equals, if not completely dominate them. For the record, I'm going to bet now that this guy (Iihiko) is actually the person whom Hanten emerged to be the "shadow"/"double" of. Last edited by Sol Falling; 2012-09-14 at 01:22. |
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