2012-07-10, 14:14 | Link #42 | ||
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With Oro taking his chakra from Kabuto, I don't think there is any way to really quantify the difference in their power. We don't know how much of Kabuto's power consisted of Oro's chakra, and we don't even know what Orochimaru really did --Juugo only said it seems like he only took his own chakra. I'm suspicious that he might have done something more because of the mental note "What is this strange sensation" present while he did what he did. |
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2012-07-10, 16:36 | Link #44 | |
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Well i still think that the current Orochi is not at 100%, my guess is that his body is crippled in a similar way to Tobi's, so he can't fight at full power, that would make him an evil advisor-like figure for Sasuke, i think that's a more interesting role for Orochi than having him fight. His talking was usually more fun than his fighting |
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2012-07-10, 16:51 | Link #46 | |
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Wow, early chapter this week. Haven't had one of those in quite some time.
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2012-07-10, 17:24 | Link #47 | ||
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The other thing is, if the kyuubi were just a mass of chakra then when Minato split it into 2 halves then what is the other half supposed to be? Is it another kyuubi or just some mass of chakra? But i guess i should probably think in a different way about what a "soul" is in the Naruto world. But i can't think of any way that this would make sense, so i guess i'll just enjoy the story and not search for too much logic in it Having Orochimaru back was worth breaking any rules that the author might have set previously Apparently Kabuto was also healed from Orochi's chakra |
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2012-07-10, 17:42 | Link #48 | ||
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The Bijuu are "living" chakra constructs created by Rikudou-Sennin using Banbutsu Sōzō. There is no direct evidence to suggest that they have "souls". Additionally, Kage Bushins seem to have individual personalities, but they do not apprear to have souls. Minato split the yin and yang chakra. Presumably the other half (the yin) sealed in the death god is also a Kyuubi (considering Orochimaru is Orochimaru no matter his birth date ) |
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2012-07-10, 19:15 | Link #49 | |
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he's my favorite villain too. i thought this chapter was awesome! i dont care that it was mostly dialogue like some people seem to be disappointed with. orochimaru's return was better than anything in that kabuto fight as far as i'm concerned. also, suigetsu was funny and orochimaru taking his chakra back from kabuto was badass. i've been predicting that orochimaru would be back for a while too. what next? will tobi be obito? lol
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i've tried making sense out of the whole 1 soul/splitting posts in this thread, but everything seems to fall apart when you throw the reaper deathgod or the totsuka sword into the discussion. if the totsuka sword wasnt necessary then kabuto should have revived orochimaru himself. and why couldn't hashirama be ET'd since his chakra is all over the place... his soul is sealed like orochimaru's apparently is but yea, having orochimaru back > logic also, i totally agree with Hiking Bear that the kages are about to be revived. it makes sense for orochimaru to have been researching the deathgod to get his arms back and hashirama can definitely be labeled as the one who knows everything |
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2012-07-10, 21:30 | Link #50 |
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oro split his soul into the curse seal. all he created so its safe to assume he had at least 6 parts of his soul split and his own thats been sealed.
so assume reverse engineers the death seal, brings back the first to fight madara, brings back the 3rd to answer all hid questions and the 4th just for fanservice.
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2012-07-11, 00:34 | Link #53 | |
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i guess we all kind of expected oro to come back so it's not a major plot twist, but the way he was brought back felt like an asspull. i expected a more elaborate explanation.
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2012-07-11, 02:31 | Link #54 |
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oro would fux up volde in a 1on1 and rowling copied kishi.
ANyways, lame chapter since oro didnt sound like himself (too helpful) but I am sure oro is just setting it up to double cross sasuke and take his body after he charges up/splits up taka. So can kabuto still go sage mode withotu oros chakra? I think that is what was implied.. He needs the firepower to redeem himself against oro in his redemption fight as was someone posted. That would be an awesome way to end kabutos part of the story (i wouldnt mind seeing oro revived yet AGAIN in a future arc or movie now that we know it is possible).
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2012-07-11, 02:43 | Link #56 | |
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uh, harry potter was first published in 1997 while naruto came out in 2000. and i highly doubt rowling has even heard of naruto. not that i'm saying kishi copied hp, but the similarities between oro and voldemort are so glaring, snakes, obsession with immortality, ambitions of world domination, horcruxes. then there's naruto being an orphan but with some pretty important parents like harry. naruto having a powerful master in jiraiya just like harry has dumbledore, naruto having kakashi as a sort of guardian while harry has sirius black. naruto was also part of a trio along with sakura and sasuke, while harry has hermione and ron. naruto being the child of prophecy just like harry. rowling putting a new spin to witches and wizards and kishi with his own version of ninja. the similarities could be coincidental of course, but you can't deny that they do exist.
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"The man who knows everything...."
I just had a thought....
What if the person Sasuke is talking about is....The First Hokage?! Think about it. Who could possibly give Sasuke answers to all the questions he seeks about the village? Orochimaru also asked Sasuke what he plans to do when he sees "them?" What if the contents of that scroll contain information about how to release the souls trapped inside The Death God? Perhaps Orochimaru after his battle with the 3rd Hokage decided to learn all he could about the Death God and perhaps use Edo Tensei to gain control of all the Hokage. All 4 of the Hokage's souls are currently sealed in side the Death God. Orochimaru told Sasuke he was just a kid and questioned why he wanted to speak to "them" suggesting that the people he is talking about come from before his time. Suigetsu thinks the scroll contains the power to control the entire Ninja world. If the scroll is related to people and Sasuke needs Orochimaru's help then the Hokage's would be the #1 most valuable Ninja whose power Orochimaru planned to harness and whom Sasuke would want information from. Add that to the fact that there has been a lot of hype surrounding the 1st Hokage from the use of his cells to empower other Ninja to Uchiha Madara boasting that he is the only one with the power to challenge him. Sasuke doesn't really trust Tobi at the moment and he still wants answers about the relationship between the Uchiha clan and the village. One or all of the Hokage could give him could give him the knowledge he seeks about the village's history. They could also be used as weapons in the war.
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2012-07-11, 04:46 | Link #60 |
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it's completely up in the air who "them" refers too, especially since stated on one of the previous pages, the japanese term used for "them" in this case, is pretty derogative.
both oro and sasuke could easily be referring to the kages since they both aren't too fond of konoha, but the human who knows everything... that would be the mostly likely be the rikudou sennin would it not? wouldn't be surprised if he lived in some shape or form.... everyone's doing it these days
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