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Old 2016-04-08, 03:43   Link #5221
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For those who interested on what happened and why on the next chapter

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I would like to see people who now doubt that sinbad is the real big bad of the story he is doing one shady thing after another, lets see if alibabas supreme wisdom can overcome the oldest magicians plans >_>
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Old 2016-04-08, 04:15   Link #5222
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I would like to see people who now doubt that sinbad is the real big bad of the story he is doing one shady thing after another, lets see if alibabas supreme wisdom can overcome the oldest magicians plans >_>
Actually it won't be difficult. I mean Alibaba can simply place the device at Kou border instead of center of targeted city and then delivers the teleported good by your old transport methods.

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Old 2016-04-08, 05:47   Link #5223
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That's shitty bastard

And I was about to hold myself from hating him more because he looks so funny when Alibaba confused him.
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Old 2016-04-08, 09:05   Link #5224
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This is a really dirty move on Sinbad, I must say. Dammit, man. I don't know what to say.

Well, it'd be good if Alibaba's genius brain can figure out a way to get through this.

The main big bad is David. Sinbad is either being manipulated and doesn't realize it, or he's already become evil and did a good job of hiding it in front of Alibaba.
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Old 2016-04-08, 09:19   Link #5225
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I figured he was responsible, but man, what an asshole!
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Old 2016-04-08, 09:56   Link #5226
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If a simple rumour can cause this, they have a much bigger hurdle than Sinbad to deal with.
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Old 2016-04-08, 10:17   Link #5227
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If a simple rumour can cause this, they have a much bigger hurdle than Sinbad to deal with.
That is a issue that only gets solved with time, other countys need to get trust into kou, after everything is done years will go by and than they wouldnt fall for this...

Imagine how the world reacts once north korea, irak etc is said to have nukes?
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Old 2016-04-08, 10:31   Link #5228
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That is a issue that only gets solved with time, other countys need to get trust into kou, after everything is done years will go by and than they wouldnt fall for this...

Imagine how the world reacts once north korea, irak etc is said to have nukes?
Trust issue huh? Simple. They don't trust Kou but they trusted Alibaba, right?

Just have Alibaba marry Kougyoku and become the Emperor Kou. Problem solved.
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Old 2016-04-08, 10:39   Link #5229
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Trust issue huh? Simple. They don't trust Kou but they trusted Alibaba, right?

Just have Alibaba marry Kougyoku and become the Emperor Kou. Problem solved.
can s.o make a rumour like this in chap 303?
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Old 2016-04-08, 10:43   Link #5230
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I don't want Alibaba marrying Kougyoku, though. He still as Mor, and no, she hasn't moved on to Hakuryuu.

I'm not sure how they're going to fix the trust issues, but marrying Kougyoku and becoming Emperor of Kou can't be the only way. But yeah, false rumors about the marriage might work for a while. Alibaba has to ultimately build a strong trust between himself and other countries so that something like this doesn't happen. He could tell them to consider why he'd help a bad country that wants to start wars all over again or whatnot.
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Old 2016-04-08, 17:50   Link #5231
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If a simple rumour can cause this, they have a much bigger hurdle than Sinbad to deal with.
They were a war-mongering country at odds with every place they wanted to trade with and we saw they were working on undead warriors. Of course a rumor is going to screw them over. That crap doesn't disappear just because the head of the country changes, and Alibaba has been played like a dupe before. They might trust him, but they don't know if someone is pulling his strings.
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Old 2016-04-08, 18:29   Link #5232
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And that's exactly what Sinbad is taking advantage of here. He's cunning as hell. Now I wonder if Alibaba has what it takes to fix this. We'll see.
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Old 2016-04-08, 20:22   Link #5233
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Now I wonder if Alibaba has what it takes to fix this.
If he doesn't, all his development during the time skip would be pointless. This is the one chance for him to prove his worth, to both the characters and the readers.
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Old 2016-04-08, 20:28   Link #5234
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Yeah this is not going well for Alibaba. I hope he's got a plan especially since Sinbad declared himself as his rival. Curious to see what he'll do next time. I have to admit though, the rumor is a smart but also a dirty one. I also wonder what the limits are for that teleportation technology?
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Old 2016-04-08, 21:44   Link #5235
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Yeah this is not going well for Alibaba. I hope he's got a plan especially since Sinbad declared himself as his rival. Curious to see what he'll do next time. I have to admit though, the rumor is a smart but also a dirty one. I also wonder what the limits are for that teleportation technology?
Size of Teleportation circles? Would be hard to draw upon entire armies if a teleport portal is that small, and also if you destroy the circle you destroy the spell.

Though I am not sure why those countries think Kou is a threat, I mean with their economic status they should have a laughably small military. Invasion could be avoided
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Old 2016-04-08, 22:01   Link #5236
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^It's not about whether Kou is weak or not, keep in mind it's only been 3 years since all these new regulations have been put in place. The memory of Kou's warmongering is still very fresh in the minds of the people and it doesn't take much to make people act on their lingering fear and distrust.

Sinbad knew that and took full advantage of it to tilt the situation in his favor.

On another note, you could argue that the plan was doomed from the beginning since roughly half of the the countries they planned to put teleportation circles in had leaders/key figures that were all completely loyal to Sinbad despite their status.

I'm also really starting to question the 8 generals at this point, they all clearly know Sinbad isn't acting like his normal self yet they don't seem to be calling him out on it. It's really jarring to see if you've read the Sinbad's prequel manga.
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Old 2016-04-08, 23:22   Link #5237
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If he doesn't, all his development during the time skip would be pointless. This is the one chance for him to prove his worth, to both the characters and the readers.
Indeed. The writer wasted so many chapters just to have Alibaba visiting all countries so i think Alibaba will find a way to realize his plan.

Like moving the teleport point to Kou border...
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Old 2016-04-09, 02:15   Link #5238
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I wonder if Reim went back on their agreement. They don't trust Sinabd either, they still have their metal vessels... It wouldn't be hard to put the teleportation circle under guard (which they'd have to do anyway). Heck, they should put guards on both sides of the circle - that's something to negotiate with Kou, which would alleviate trust issues.
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Old 2016-04-09, 03:40   Link #5239
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I wonder if Reim went back on their agreement. They don't trust Sinabd either, they still have their metal vessels... It wouldn't be hard to put the teleportation circle under guard (which they'd have to do anyway). Heck, they should put guards on both sides of the circle - that's something to negotiate with Kou, which would alleviate trust issues.
Yeah, i thought of this too, maybe alibaba will tell this to the other leaders and also that the circle wont teleport,a whole army, at most there could be 10 people, the moment something like a army is send, the countrys can overhelm the incoming few men and destroy the circle...

Btw, does anyone else love how the mangaka makes the irrationally scared people look like hollow shells of their former self?
It is as if the previously shown people lost all complexity and became one-line thinkers it fits SOOO good into it because the people always act like them the moment the mangaka uses this
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Old 2016-04-09, 04:46   Link #5240
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Alibaba didn't see Sinbad's hand in the fast spread of the rumor. Or in the Parthevian emperor telling him the one thing sure to get rid of him ("I'm sold, but please wait a few weeks."). He does still have serious blind spots.
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