Code Geass (Generic discussion thread)

[monstratboy]

Ahhh man. After reading a translation for the preview for episode 7 on LJ...

Spoiler:

... I have a bad feeling it ends in a punishing Cliff Hanger with Zero being whooped and captured.

I'm probably gonna die slowly waiting for Episode 8's Black Knights.

[Schneizel]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Hey, someone pity me...
Since GG is only release 1 form of their Code Geass fansub, which was too much for my aging computer, my only options are either watching the series in choppy frames or not at all. I appreciate what GG has done for us, but it would be nice if someone else, anyone else, fansub it in a form that is less resource-taxing...

I know of someone was able to play an h264 file with a larger resolution than Geass on a P3 733 with CoreAVC. Exactly how outdated is your computer. o 0

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by kodachrome

I know of someone was able to play an h264 file with a larger resolution than Geass on a P3 733 with CoreAVC. Exactly how outdated is your computer. o 0

Intel(R) Celeron (R) CPU 1.72 GHz, 224 MB of RAM.

...Still, I am sure if I know IT better I could have found a way... but I don't. Is my computer too old?

Anyway, to stay on topic, I just want to tell people what I feel about the Code Geass universe up to now.

In essence, I am treating it like a Gundam show with no Gundams in it.

That might sound insulting to CodeGeass, but hear me out; In the Gundam forums, I spent some time conversing with people about why Gundam shows can't deliver the type of content I wanted. My conclusion was that Gundam as a franchise limits any new series from stepping out of formula, and as such the best thing that can happen to a new Gundam show is to not be called a Gundam show.

And so far, my wish is coming true.

[monstratboy]

Am I out of place in hoping that Lelouch gets Crossbone G***** X-2 and the cool machine-gun/knight lance that Z***** uses through C.C.'s secret Jupiter contacts?

MAHQ link

How 'bout an indestructible evil looking black claw/gauntlet?
Not that he would use them much anyways as he specialises in tactics and eye catching poses and pompousness.

[CronuZ]

Well I don't think he gonna get a mecha, instead I think Kallen gonna do the dirty job for him thus the spoiler

Spoiler:

Theres some original art indicating that Kallen gonna be the pilot for Crimson Lotus type 2

We dunno how it gonna end but in the current situation, the chance of Lulu having a mobile suit is slim.... who knows? maybe C.C. would end up revealing a secret MS for Lulu.... ermm Freedom perharps

[monstratboy]

We dunno how it gonna end but in the current situation, the chance of Lulu having a mobile suit is slim.... who knows? maybe C.C. would end up revealing a secret MS for Lulu.... ermm Freedom perharps

No no no it can't be Freedom. Thats an earth space colony mech. L*** might have russled up a new Astray seeing as he went to Jupiter but I'm putting my money on the X-2. The Crossbone G's have waist mounted scissor anchors like these smash hawks or slash harkens/whatever all these CG mechs have, the Xbone G's were made to perform in Jupiter's atmosphere and the X-2 has a wicked lance like Cornella and her troups and Curel and his troops have. And...... its Black and purple. Now. Need I say more? Its black and purple dude. Lelouch of the rebellion all the way!

[metamorphic]

Spoiler for title of episode 10 and its meanings:

About the title of episode 10, the Crimson Lotus appears to be a Knightmare Frame designed by a Japanese group, according to some previews/spoilers I've read, hmmm... I wonder who created it, or who will create it, and how it will figure in the overall story.

Spoiler for new characters:

I'm also very interested in what role Schneizel (who makes appearances in the OP and a brief appearance in episode 6), second prince of Britannia, and Sakuya (who makes appearances in the OP and a brief appearance in episode 4) will play in the overall story.

Code Geass is proving to be a superb and excellent series; I cannot wait for the story to unfold.

[Renegade334]

Some things to think about, but not very spoilerish IMO. Just an insight on the settings and the main characters.

It's an interview in Animage's November issue, with Ookouchi and Kawaguchi (the series' producer).

Credits to verity_isle

The themes of 'means' and 'ends'

Q : What are the themes used in this production?
Ookouchi : One of them is 'ends and means'. For example, there's a game you want to win at all costs. Sure enough, you gave your all to practicing hard enough that you'll win, but you find out that you can't. When that happens, do you bribe the judges, or do you fight honestly and lose? For Lelouch, 'to lose because of pretty words is the end', and for Suzaku, 'it's no use to win with those means'.

Q : 'Means' as Suzaku and 'Ends' as Lelouch, so to speak?
Ookouchi : Yes. If the viewers see these two make their way through different standings and think of many things, I'll be happy.

Q : The setting is a fictional occupied Japan, but what is the reason you chose it?
Ookouchi : The Japan conquered by Britannia is split into two sides. One is to please the Britannians, and the other is to live without throwing away your pride. It's simple for the former, if it means you have no trouble getting bread on the table, a wounded pride is small price to pay---they live for the 'ends'. But for the latter, happiness as something other than a Japanese is meaningless. They're those who choose the 'means'.

The reason for Lelouch's battle

Q : Ookouchi-san, can you give us a clear image of what Lelouch and Suzaku are like?
Ookouchi : The first image I had for them was 'wrath' and 'sorrow'. Like this : A crime or a terrorist attack happens in front of them, and the one who grows angry and faces it is Lelouch; the one who's sad and remembers it wistfully, that's Suzaku. And they're also each other's opposites. Suzaku's the brawn type and Lelouch's the brains. Lelouch is heavily theoretical, but Suzaku is more sensible. Lelouch's prudent and Suzaku's bold. And if they want to find something good to eat, Lelouch would study all the gourmet guide maps, collect all the data before going out and---more often than not getting the wrong shop. *laughs* Suzaku, though, just goes into town, enters a place that catches his eye, and it usually turns out to be a secluded but famous restaurant...of course, none of these appears in the story itself, but that's how they are for me.
Kawaguchi : Since Lelouch's---you know, like that, we have no idea how the younger fans would take to him. It'll be really nice, though, if our viewers can identify with their feelings somehow.
Ookouichi : Not just as a 'cool' character, but as someone you share an affinity with---I'll be happy if that happens. The story belongs to the 'hero gets strange power, will go do things' warhorse with all its orthodox history, after all. But though he doesn't use it for justice and his ways seem evil at first glance, I don't think what Lelouch does could be easily categorized as evil.

Q : It is a story about Lelouch and Suzaku's interpretations of justice, I see. Now that we know Lelouch is actually a Britannian Imperial royalty, we've got a better idea of what he's fighting for.
Kawaguchi : His mother died from getting mixed up in a power struggle in Britannia or something along the lines, and his sister was wounded in the same incident. That much is clear. It's clear, too, that one of the reasons he fights is for his sister, Nanaly.

Q : Nanaly seems to be a very important person that he wants to protect at all costs.
Ookouchi : Lelouch has lost many, many things up to now. The homeland he called Britannia is stolen from him, his mother, even his friends. If he loses the modest life he finally has with Nanaly in Japan, he'll have nothing left.

Q : C.C.'s role is that of the mysterious character, but can you give us some hints?
Ookouchi : Behind a world torn up with revolutions and robots, there is another world where strange powers like the Geass exists. C.C's existence is the entry into that world, that's all I can say right now...

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Copied and pasted from: http://community.livejournal.com/cod...61.html#cutid1

From the last sentences, I guess we'll have an (penultimate or final) arc involving C.C.'s world...or at least an episode dedicated to that said world. It'd be nice to see what C.C.'s people can do - if they have different Geass powers to pit in a battle against Britannia's royalty. I guess we'll just have to sit down and wait it out...;-|

[Kaoru Chujo]

I'm not sure which thread this belongs in, or if someone has done it already, but here is a translated version of the character map on the official site. It gives little pics of the main characters and their basic relationships. I have added the names of their voice actors, since that's what I wanted to get straight in the first place:

[Sakuya]

Originally Posted by Mysteria

Spoiler for new characters:

Sakuya (who makes appearances in the OP and a brief appearance in episode 4)

Spoiler:

Which one is Sakuya?

[cyoti]

I have a question: why is it amongst the Imperial family, Nanly is the only one that doesn't have a very European sounding name?

[mugener]

Any idea why Code Geass is not popular outside of Japan?

I don't get it, people prefer Kanon over Code Geass?

Look like moe is really important for an anime to be popular.

[Sonhex]

Originally Posted by cyoti

I have a question: why is it amongst the Imperial family, Nanly is the only one that doesn't have a very European sounding name?

Assuming her official name is Nunally, then it is a British name, albeit usually used as a surname. But then other characters have British surnames and placenames as first names e.g. Guildford.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by mugener

Any idea why Code Geass is not popular outside of Japan?

Ever thought about the fact that it doesn't air outside of Japan?:

Originally Posted by mugener

I don't get it, people prefer Kanon over Code Geass?

I take it you're basing that of this forum - there are many Code Geass fans.. many more then just on this forum.

[darkchibi07]

Originally Posted by mugener

Any idea why Code Geass is not popular outside of Japan?

I don't get it, people prefer Kanon over Code Geass?

Look like moe is really important for an anime to be popular.

What the? You forgot about Death Note?

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by mugener

Any idea why Code Geass is not popular outside of Japan?

I don't get it, people prefer Kanon over Code Geass?

You can't really compare Kanon with Code geass.

Kanon has many media forms. The game itself was so popular to begin with that it has a moderate non japanese fan base (the japanese fans were already a lot...).
with the 2002 anime and some media like the manga, well, you can see kanon reputation a bit bigger (though it is not as popular as naruto, since the genre and the content aren't really common for western viewers)

and finally, KyoAni is doing a fantastic work. so far, there are few-to-none dsiappointed fans.


Code Geass, on the other hand, was labelized as a "standard mecha" due the staff : sunrise. As you could read around here, CLAMP design isn't really unanimous, especially for a shonen genre as Mecha type.
with the ridiculous recent Gundam Seed Destiny (and with some extent, Mai otome), people tend to avoid Sunrise productions, until the result worth watching... (and since lots of people are just rating with the first 1-2 episodes without any objective mind, you got biased rates => more people avoiding this great anime...)

and, finally, the political issue, the "britannia empire" doesn't help for the superficial judgements... (there were lots of whine about nationalize and anti-america campaign etc...) just read ANN preview, you will understand.

this is sad, but of course, this doesn't give to CG great justice. (anyway, the show won't really be worse or better with less or more fans you know)

Look like moe is really important for an anime to be popular.

not really...

[Li Jianliang]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

I'm not sure which thread this belongs in, or if someone has done it already, but here is a translated version of the character map on the official site. It gives little pics of the main characters and their basic relationships. I have added the names of their voice actors, since that's what I wanted to get straight in the first place:

Correction: It should be "Ashford Academy", not 'college'. They're just high school students.

[mugener]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

and, finally, the political issue, the "britannia empire" doesn't help for the superficial judgements... (there were lots of whine about nationalize and anti-america campaign etc...) just read ANN preview, you will understand.

"Nippon banzai!"

LOL

well, it's true that political issue really turn people off.

.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by mugener

Any idea why Code Geass is not popular outside of Japan? I don't get it, people prefer Kanon over Code Geass? Look like moe is really important for an anime to be popular.

Others have given good answers to this, but as someone who's enjoying both shows, I want to talk about it. First, of course, Kanon is an established franchise, with established fans and name-recognition.

Second, Kanon is not just "a" moe show, it may be the most moe show ever, and the best game-conversion ever. I haven't heard anyone saying Code Geass is the best of its genre.

Third, Kanon's animation is really godly. Ranks with Suzumiya Haruhi as the best-animated TV series ever, in my opinion.

Fourth, the emotions in Kanon are both subtle and intense, and the story is heart-breaking. Some Kanon fans might say Code Geass is emotionally kind of clunky and unsubtle.

The voice-acting is great in both shows, but Kanon has Horie Yui, who some people consider the best, and Sugita Tomokazu, who is the current male star after his work in Suzumiya Haruhi. Not that Fukuyama Jun is any slouch.

Originally Posted by Li Jianliang

Correction: It should be "Ashford Academy", not 'college'. They're just high school students.

I know it's a high school. "College" can be used for high schools. There were a couple of private high schools called "XX College" in the town I grew up in. But you're right that "Academy" is clearer, so I've changed it. Thanks.

[metamorphic]

Code Geass, and Iroha too, are original creations by Sunrise, and what is great is, that within such a short space of time, Code Geass happens to be currently one of the hottest anime titles currently being hyped in Japan, with it being one of the most popular discussions on boards, and entire spreads dedicated to it, etc. I think that's a great achievement for an original anime production, and I'm delighted. And in my humble opinion, I find Code Geass a whole lot more interesting and greater, in every possible way, than any of the other shows currently running the airwaves. Go Geass & Sunrise! ^_^

Originally Posted by Sakuya

Spoiler:

Which one is Sakuya?

Spoiler:

Sakuya is the dark-haired woman.