High School DxD Light Novel - Character power-ups, match-ups, and ratings

[saucerKing]

Originally Posted by Xuanwu

^Each of the Seven Luminaries are said to be Chief God-class except the #1, so the weakest should be around the level of the average chief god. Haz Ilyus is the strongest among them, so I think he would actually have top ten level power.

I think he might actually be stronger than Shiva, as I can't imagine the #1 of the Luminaries would be above Great Red-class whereas the #2 would merely be on par with the likes of Apollon. This gap would be too huge. Let us say Melvazoa had an inner civil war with Regalzeva.

Regalzeva's main commanders are two Dragon God-class generals. Atrocity Fanatics = Maou-class ~ Chief God-class.

Melvazoa's main commanders are one general above Great Red and the other ones being Chief God-class. Invade Fanatics = Dragon King-class ~ Maou-class.

That would seem to make for a power imbalance, as Regalzeva's generals would probably dominate that battle. So it makes sense for Haz Ilyus and the other high-ranked Luminaries to be very strong, instead of each of them only being around the level of Apollon.

I believe Ishibumi would want each faction to be comparable to the other in battle potential.

well haz is called "Satellite Prime Wiseman" so it sounds to me like he is more of a brainy than brawny guy, he probably is whit regalzerva not because of his strenght but because he is the smartest and most capable among the primes, hence him being melvazoa left hand. definitely should be top 10 though, like you said it would be strange if he was not near that power. but he could also be a magician-technique type while the n1 is power-fighter type like issei, he could be the ajuka of the evies

so if they face against ajuka it will be both bringing out calculators and having a math duel on the spot.

though about the power imbalance of each faction, i think they probably are focused on different things. regalzerva could have more raw military might because he is constantly invading new world and he needs it, meanwhile melvazoa could have a kill switch for any evie, probably including his brothers ones, seraselbes i dunno. besides having a few more powerful generals means squat when A. they are machines, melvazoa could make a new general of equal level if he wanted likely B.

the three brothers are so hilariously above their own creations that any potential war would be decided by their own personal power. regalzerva could solo all of melvazoa faction, the opposite is also true, seraselbes can do the same. a war between them is just a fight to the death between them. armies are largely irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Hyodou True DXD

I understand what you mean,then maybe it can be like you said, honestly I'm enough interest to see if Ajuka will use Tiamat or copy of Innovate Clear that can be the Beelzebut's smartphone for fight some Eevie strong than him.

So maybe Issei will use for first time True DXD G+ AXA+ Eros Engine again one of the Eevie of Dragon God's class, when if is true that Balberith can reach the Dragon God Class he could fight another Eevie strong as the GR and if Ophis and Lilith merge together for be a one being once again maybe Ophis too will fight again a Eevie of Dragon God's level.

Issei could defeats Malvezoa thanks a blessing of Chichigami and the 12 Heavenly Breast and Vali could have a power up thanks Lilith (Mothers of Devils) + the Malebranche and be able to defeat Regalveza or Seraselbes but however the difference of powers beetween the Eevie and the DXD's world his great so I guess Issei and the others will have to defeat the Eevie starting from the weakest to the strongest.

Well we don't know how strong Resetoras and Chichigami could be, maybe even this 2 can be above the Dragon God's level.

Giving the fact that Sefaria is called the miko of Searaselbes I suppose that her can be in some way extremely fundamental at least for defeat of Seraselbes.

innovate clear copy would make perfect sense as ajuka power, it creates a world where he is in complete control, if you couple it whit his kankara formula ajuka would go straight into reality warping and it would fit him so much to create a simulation-like world where he can control all variables.

here is hoping he will do it against the space-ship one, you cant give us something like AxA, show an evie that is a spaceship and NOT show us that fight. also its in space so there is no risk of AxA destroying the world, so we can get some planet-busting and Dbz level fights, i would personally prefer if it was a mecha dragon killing a spaceship but a gundam doing it works too

i dunno chichigami, due to how powerful gods from evie etoulde are i would guess that as pillar god she should be shiva-level at the every least if not dragon god. but resetoras definitely has to be as powerful as at least melvazoa, they have been at a stalemate war for a long time apparently and the evies are afraid of the etoulde getting involved because it would lead to a lot of casualties on their side, it seems to suggest that resetoras faction is a match for at least melvazoa and if he was less powerful than melvazoa then they would be dead already

personally, i think resetoras will turn out to be just as OP as melvazoa, whit issei and DxD being the tippping point he needed to win against melvazoa and issei getting some power up from resetoras and chichigami (probably related to the 12 breasts) that will allow him to match melvazoa and resetoras, vali and issei will group on melvazoa and either find a way to seal him forever or issei will go full chuuni VN and get some conceptual nonsense to erase melvazoa

[Hyodou True DXD]

Originally Posted by saucerKing

well haz is called "Satellite Prime Wiseman" so it sounds to me like he is more of a brainy than brawny guy, he probably is whit regalzerva not because of his strenght but because he is the smartest and most capable among the primes, hence him being melvazoa left hand. definitely should be top 10 though, like you said it would be strange if he was not near that power. but he could also be a magician-technique type while the n1 is power-fighter type like issei, he could be the ajuka of the evies

so if they face against ajuka it will be both bringing out calculators and having a math duel on the spot.

innovate clear copy would make perfect sense as ajuka power, it creates a world where he is in complete control, if you couple it whit his kankara formula ajuka would go straight into reality warping and it would fit him so much to create a simulation-like world where he can control all variables.

Give the fact that we already have Mitsuya that use 2 guantlets of still unknow origins and technology we should no be surprise at all if comes out that the Eevie's scientists fight using some kind of device that can warp space-time and screw laws of physics consequently pushing even someone like Ajuka to use a sacred gear that used Tiamat as source of power or copy of Telos Karma or Innovate Clear or Belzebuut's smartphone for a artificial BXB that improved the Kankara Formula.

Originally Posted by saucerKing

though about the power imbalance of each faction, i think they probably are focused on different things. regalzerva could have more raw military might because he is constantly invading new world and he needs it, meanwhile melvazoa could have a kill switch for any evie, probably including his brothers ones, seraselbes i dunno. besides having a few more powerful generals means squat when A. they are machines, melvazoa could make a new general of equal level if he wanted likely B.

the three brothers are so hilariously above their own creations that any potential war would be decided by their own personal power. regalzerva could solo all of melvazoa faction, the opposite is also true, seraselbes can do the same. a war between them is just a fight to the death between them. armies are largely irrelevant.

According with Harem King Memorial Regalveza and Seraselbes are both not inferior to Malvezoa in terms of powers, so if this 3 fight again each the DXD could find some time for come up with something.

Immagine if Issei became the object of a possible answer between the three supreme Eevie because each of them 3 has different plans for him, for example Malvezoa could be undecided whether to eliminate him quickly and definitively or turn him into his servant machine warrior, while Regalzeva wants to eliminate him but only after giving him the chance to fight him as best he can and to conclude Seralbes being a female she wants to humiliate him because she is so powerful that the breast techniques on her have no effect and keep him like a toy.

Originally Posted by saucerKing

here is hoping he will do it against the space-ship one, you cant give us something like AxA, show an evie that is a spaceship and NOT show us that fight. also its in space so there is no risk of AxA destroying the world, so we can get some planet-busting and Dbz level fights, i would personally prefer if it was a mecha dragon killing a spaceship but a gundam doing it works too

i dunno chichigami, due to how powerful gods from evie etoulde are i would guess that as pillar god she should be shiva-level at the every least if not dragon god. but resetoras definitely has to be as powerful as at least melvazoa, they have been at a stalemate war for a long time apparently and the evies are afraid of the etoulde getting involved because it would lead to a lot of casualties on their side, it seems to suggest that resetoras faction is a match for at least melvazoa and if he was less powerful than melvazoa then they would be dead already

personally, i think resetoras will turn out to be just as OP as melvazoa, whit issei and DxD being the tippping point he needed to win against melvazoa and issei getting some power up from resetoras and chichigami (probably related to the 12 breasts) that will allow him to match melvazoa and resetoras, vali and issei will group on melvazoa and either find a way to seal him forever or issei will go full chuuni VN and get some conceptual nonsense to erase melvazoa

I believe that it will be a battle in the space between AXA and somekind of Warrior Battle Ships, Ishibumi is too much Gundam's fans for not writting something like that.

I wonder if Ryuuuteimaru will grown further and so its look will be more like a battleships, maybe a multi-seater. My theory is that the girls that are the 12 Heavenly Breast could drive Ryuuuteimaru together with Issei and so the power of their breast will be focused in the Ryuuuteimaru's cannons.

I hope that if the Issei Dragon Giant Form will appeared he will be equipped with Ryuuuteimaru and Ddraig too get a armor, both of they 2 could look like a combination of this https://img.wattpad.com/cover/120453422-512-k516339.jpg + this https://bbts1.azureedge.net/images/p...5653c1214e.jpg

About Chichigami I think that her could do more than just give blessing, maybe she can fight and be above Indu Gods because this explains why the Eevie has not already managed to kill her.

Yeah Resetoras could be strong like Malvezoa, he is the ruler of the Evie Etoulde's world and called the God Father. Maybe Malvezoa and Resetoras are almost like Darkseid and High Father from the DC Comics.

[Xuanwu]

Yeah, I think Issei will fight against Rugatimu's spaceship with AxA and wreck the thing. But I believe Vali will be the one to defeat Rugatimu whereas Issei will defeat Durmado, based on Rugatimu's commanders attacking Vali's team. Not sure about planet busting, but they might blow up the moon or something.

Still not certain Melvazoa will invade in Shin DxD, although it would give Balberith someone to face, I guess. I don't think Ophis is going to die though; if Ishibumi didn't kill her off in what would have been a meaningful character moment in Vol 12, he won't kill her off to hype Regalzeva. Great Red is the fall guy for that.

Chichigami should be equal to Regalzeva and Seraselbes as fellow ExE pillar gods.

[B214]

Originally Posted by Xuanwu

Yeah, I think Issei will fight against Rugatimu's spaceship with AxA and wreck the thing. But I believe Vali will be the one to defeat Rugatimu whereas Issei will defeat Durmado, based on Rugatimu's commanders attacking Vali's team. Not sure about planet busting, but they might blow up the moon or something.

Still not certain Melvazoa will invade in Shin DxD, although it would give Balberith someone to face, I guess. I don't think Ophis is going to die though; if Ishibumi didn't kill her off in what would have been a meaningful character moment in Vol 12, he won't kill her off to hype Regalzeva. Great Red is the fall guy for that.

Chichigami should be equal to Regalzeva and Seraselbes as fellow ExE pillar gods.

AxA for Dimensional Gap battle may actually happen, if Ishibumi wants to embrace his inner Gundam.

I'm thinking Ishibumi may merge Ophis & Lilith into 1 being again. Like you said, Ishibumi already chose not to kill her off in V12, so i don't see him killing her now either. With Great Red gone, probably the only being that can potentially fight the stronger members of the Evies now is Prime Ophis. I don't see anyone being able to fight against the one who kill Great Red at the moment, besides Prime Ophis. Shiva maybe?

Maybe Chichigami will send someone to help out the DxD world.

[Hyodou True DXD]

Maybe Issei with AXA and the battle ships of Eevie will fights in the space or in the dimensional gap, despite the Eevie doesn't want destroys the planet that they invades so should be logically both they and Issei will decide not to fight on Earth. Maybe some planet will be destroyed, I don't know about the moon, I think that Issei is smart enough to know that the moon is precious for the Earth.

About Vali maybe he will overcome Rugatimu thanks some combination of powers from Ophis and Lilith(Mothers of Devil), when Issei will defeat Durado thanks the new weapons of Ryuuuteimaru and the power of his 8 mutation pieces.

Yeah the jobber's task was already take by the poor GR, so Ophis could survive, maybe Balberith will fight and defeat some Eevie around or superior to Shiva's level, when Verrine could fight some Eevie strong that Hades or even strong than Indra.

If Chichigami is powerful like Regalveza she consequently should be at the same level of Malvezoa.

Maybe the warriors that Chichigami could send to help the DXD could be strong enough to fights the Eevie around God Chief class, one of this possibile female warriors could be the Issei's 8 pawns or the Mutated Rook.

[saucerKing]

Originally Posted by Hyodou True DXD

Give the fact that we already have Mitsuya that use 2 guantlets of still unknow origins and technology we should no be surprise at all if comes out that the Eevie's scientists fight using some kind of device that can warp space-time and screw laws of physics consequently pushing even someone like Ajuka to use a sacred gear that used Tiamat as source of power or copy of Telos Karma or Innovate Clear or Belzebuut's smartphone for a artificial BXB that improved the Kankara Formula.



According with Harem King Memorial Regalveza and Seraselbes are both not inferior to Malvezoa in terms of powers, so if this 3 fight again each the DXD could find some time for come up with something.

Immagine if Issei became the object of a possible answer between the three supreme Eevie because each of them 3 has different plans for him, for example Malvezoa could be undecided whether to eliminate him quickly and definitively or turn him into his servant machine warrior, while Regalzeva wants to eliminate him but only after giving him the chance to fight him as best he can and to conclude Seralbes being a female she wants to humiliate him because she is so powerful that the breast techniques on her have no effect and keep him like a toy.



I believe that it will be a battle in the space between AXA and somekind of Warrior Battle Ships, Ishibumi is too much Gundam's fans for not writting something like that.

I wonder if Ryuuuteimaru will grown further and so its look will be more like a battleships, maybe a multi-seater. My theory is that the girls that are the 12 Heavenly Breast could drive Ryuuuteimaru together with Issei and so the power of their breast will be focused in the Ryuuuteimaru's cannons.

I hope that if the Issei Dragon Giant Form will appeared he will be equipped with Ryuuuteimaru and Ddraig too get a armor, both of they 2 could look like a combination of this https://img.wattpad.com/cover/120453422-512-k516339.jpg + this https://bbts1.azureedge.net/images/p...5653c1214e.jpg

About Chichigami I think that her could do more than just give blessing, maybe she can fight and be above Indu Gods because this explains why the Eevie has not already managed to kill her.

Yeah Resetoras could be strong like Malvezoa, he is the ruler of the Evie Etoulde's world and called the God Father. Maybe Malvezoa and Resetoras are almost like Darkseid and High Father from the DC Comics.

honestly i think mitsuya gauntlets are related to satanael actually, in slashdog he is shown able to make gauntlets that trigger balance breaker and he outright says he is going to run an experiment whit innovate clear and that he wants momiji, telos karma user, to participate in it. its very likely that is not related to the evies but that satanael either made them for him or that mitsuya or someone on his side stole them and modified them

while they are equal in power i think that what will define how long this fight lasts is hax, sure they all are equal in power but regalzerva seems to just be another unga bunga so far so compared to the utter bullshit of melvazoa immortality he is nothing, and seraselbes is a mystery.

not gonna lie seraselbes wanting to humilliate him because she is female sounds silly as hell and if issei were to get the attention of those 3 its likely they would not go around on circles just to ruin issei life but would rather straight up go to fight him and murder him at the first given chance. this whole idea sounds more like an excuse to have issei lose to one of those three but survive because author fiat like whit cao cao. the only one there that makes sense is melvazoa wanting to dissect issei to make mecha issei

still would rather have ryuuteimaru become a giant armor for dragon issei rather than ishibumi satisfying his own mecha boner, the evies are already there, there is no need to shove more mecha into absolutely everything he can. unless its a mecha dragon, because those are cool AF

oh yeah she definitely will be powerful and likely will fight too, she is a pillar god of a world where the shiva equivalents can slap off the head of dragon gods. she has to be a powerhouse, and likely was not killed because she is on resetoras side, killing her would be as easy as it would be for the etoulde to kill melvazoa primes, which is to say they cant because killing the enemy generals is not easy

lets hope not, if melvazoa is like darkseid then we will get power creep off-the scales considering what darkseid is currently doing.

Originally Posted by Xuanwu

Yeah, I think Issei will fight against Rugatimu's spaceship with AxA and wreck the thing. But I believe Vali will be the one to defeat Rugatimu whereas Issei will defeat Durmado, based on Rugatimu's commanders attacking Vali's team. Not sure about planet busting, but they might blow up the moon or something.

Still not certain Melvazoa will invade in Shin DxD, although it would give Balberith someone to face, I guess. I don't think Ophis is going to die though; if Ishibumi didn't kill her off in what would have been a meaningful character moment in Vol 12, he won't kill her off to hype Regalzeva. Great Red is the fall guy for that.

Chichigami should be equal to Regalzeva and Seraselbes as fellow ExE pillar gods.

they can blow up pluto, or saturn, no one will miss those except astrologists.

i doubt baalberith will defeat one of the major evies tho, at best he will defeat a prime. those 3 are going to be defeated by issei, vali and possibly mitsuya or issei and vali together.

i know he wont kill ophis, but i can hope. most likely scenario is that azazel will be the sacrificial lion along whit named characters that barely are characters to hype the evies, you know, guys who aside of azazel no one really gives a shit about like mahabali, shiva, odin, thor, apollon. those kind of guys, because i am 99% sure most of the named characters will get a defeat at worst

but hey, maybe ishibumi will throw someone actually important under the bus aside of azazel since i will be frank killing great red means nothing. it barely was a character and i saw his death coming since the evies were introduced

[Hyodou True DXD]

Originally Posted by saucerKing

honestly i think mitsuya gauntlets are related to satanael actually, in slashdog he is shown able to make gauntlets that trigger balance breaker and he outright says he is going to run an experiment whit innovate clear and that he wants momiji, telos karma user, to participate in it. its very likely that is not related to the evies but that satanael either made them for him or that mitsuya or someone on his side stole them and modified them

while they are equal in power i think that what will define how long this fight lasts is hax, sure they all are equal in power but regalzerva seems to just be another unga bunga so far so compared to the utter bullshit of melvazoa immortality he is nothing, and seraselbes is a mystery.

not gonna lie seraselbes wanting to humilliate him because she is female sounds silly as hell and if issei were to get the attention of those 3 its likely they would not go around on circles just to ruin issei life but would rather straight up go to fight him and murder him at the first given chance. this whole idea sounds more like an excuse to have issei lose to one of those three but survive because author fiat like whit cao cao. the only one there that makes sense is melvazoa wanting to dissect issei to make mecha issei

Well I have not attention to mean that Mitsuya's guantlets are a Eevie's technology

https://occult-research.club/project...me_25_New_Dark

From the Volume 25 New Dark

Ikuse Tobio looked at the terminal machine that Kanzaki possessed.

“…The Grigori views you as a very dangerous man. I’ve heard that if I were to break that, you won’t be able to remain on this side, is that right?”

“It’s exactly as you say. Able and I are weaklings full of weaknesses, you know?”

“You can certainly say that…”

As Kanzaki took out both terminal machines from his gauntlets, he said.

“—Everything is for the sake of [Innovate] and [Karma].”

Given what was said here by Tobio it see that Mitsuya is not of the DXD's world and he need the gauntlets, so maybe if he already have the gauntlets before coming in the DXD's world or they are the ones of Satanael like you said and find a way to reach Mitsuya's world and give they to them

Who knows?

Maybe Regalveza and Seralsebs are too the immortality or perhaps Malvezoa have find a way to get the immortality because compared to his big brother is more like scientist strategist than a warrior and so get some technology that have allow him to better than Regalveza and Seralsebs not in terms of powers but about the HAX.

I know that Seralbes that want Issei like a toy or humiliate him could have sound stupid but I have get this idea because of Sefaria that is her miko, maybe Seralbes take for herself those whom she considers the most interesting specimens from the worlds her brothers conquer to keep them as pets or as a source of temporary entertainment.

I agree that this could be a stupid theory but we are speaking about Ishibumi's works

I believe that Malvezoa between the 3 could be the most serious and responsible, Regalveza the maniac battle and Seraselbes maybe something like an extremely spoiled and cruel princess, maybe could turn out that their different characters is the reason why they never invades a world together, they ever need to do so because they all 3 are to much powerful for need to help to each others.

At lest this for now is what I believe before I will gets more informations by Ishibumi which will completely disprove my hypotheses.

Originally Posted by saucerKing

still would rather have ryuuteimaru become a giant armor for dragon issei rather than ishibumi satisfying his own mecha boner, the evies are already there, there is no need to shove more mecha into absolutely everything he can. unless its a mecha dragon, because those are cool AF

oh yeah she definitely will be powerful and likely will fight too, she is a pillar god of a world where the shiva equivalents can slap off the head of dragon gods. she has to be a powerhouse, and likely was not killed because she is on resetoras side, killing her would be as easy as it would be for the etoulde to kill melvazoa primes, which is to say they cant because killing the enemy generals is not easy

I'm realy afraid that Ishibumi will continues to satisfying his mecha boner's side instead of realize our hope to see Giant Dragon Issei with a armor giving what he have said here
From The Shin DXD 3 afterword:

Well, I think it was immediately understood that A×A, which is the combination with Ryuuteimaru, uses GP03 Dendrobrium as a reference. It is the origin of the system called Gundam's armedbase.

In my generation, the final power-up I believe would be a combination with a huge weapon. Or rather, Ise's power-ups are mostly related to Gundam or Kamen Rider.

This A×A is something I originally thought of doing in Volume 2 ...... But that was impossible because of my physical condition and so I couldn't do it, and again I tried to do it now. But, that impact and strength as a result may have been the correct answer to use it this time, instead of last time.

Actually, Ryuuteimaru is still hiding its weapons. From now on more and more will appear, so look forward to it, please. To be honest, with only firepower and defense, it is already amongst the strongest class in the whole series and if Ise reaches True Dragon Deification (+ Eros Engine for A×A) ...... Something incredible will happen, for sure.

About Chichigami she could be realy powerful maybe we will see her in action even before that final figth again Malvezoa.

Originally Posted by saucerKing

they can blow up pluto, or saturn, no one will miss those except astrologists.

i doubt baalberith will defeat one of the major evies tho, at best he will defeat a prime. those 3 are going to be defeated by issei, vali and possibly mitsuya or issei and vali together.

i know he wont kill ophis, but i can hope. most likely scenario is that azazel will be the sacrificial lion along whit named characters that barely are characters to hype the evies, you know, guys who aside of azazel no one really gives a shit about like mahabali, shiva, odin, thor, apollon. those kind of guys, because i am 99% sure most of the named characters will get a defeat at worst

but hey, maybe ishibumi will throw someone actually important under the bus aside of azazel since i will be frank killing great red means nothing. it barely was a character and i saw his death coming since the evies were introduced

Agree with you nobody will cares if this planets will be destroyed, well or it should be better if I say nobody cares of them at least unless if some big piece of them will fall on the Earth?

Yeah Balberith at best could reach the Dragon God Class, he should not be able to even be challenge for Regalveza, unless the Malebranche will do something about it but I doubt.

Some gods could die for take the jobber's task I'm agree with you.

About Azazel I dunno, perhaps between the various mythological factions he made some sort of pact which consists if one or more of the gods were killed by the Eevies they would let their soul be used for new Sacred Gears, perhaps we will see an updated version of the armor appeared in EX that used Typhoon as a source of power, in this way Azazel could compete with the weaker Eevies of the God Chief Class but he still will be killed later in front of Issei's eyes prompting him to achieve something akin to Outrage Mode that transform his body completely into a dragon.

[Xuanwu]

Well, wouldn't the human world finally be certain about the existence of the supernatural if planets or large satellites like the moon were to suddenly be damaged/destroyed? Not sure if they can cover up something on that scale. It seems like Ishibumi has been building up to that recently.

Now I'm wondering if Rugatimu could have authority over celestial bodies as the Sky Prime Ruler? Maybe something like gravitational force that allows him to exert control over natural satellites. That would be pretty cool. Plus, I think Keito was supposed to be a reference to a mythology character that could control eclipses.

Conversely, Durmado could have control over water bodies as the Sea Prime Dynast. Another reason I believe Issei & Ingvild could fight against Durmado and his Prime. Hopefully, they have other special abilities aside from technology.

[Hyodou True DXD]

Originally Posted by Xuanwu

Well, wouldn't the human world finally be certain about the existence of the supernatural if planets or large satellites like the moon were to suddenly be damaged/destroyed? Not sure if they can cover up something on that scale. It seems like Ishibumi has been building up to that recently.

I think when the times for some planets for be destroyed will come the humanity will be already know about the existence of supernatural world from a little while because how the CIA and others military organization are supposed to to completely conceal an invasion of mechanical beings attacking entire continents at the same time? For me it is practically that at the end of the series people will still not be aware of the existence of the supernatural world, unless they play the card of the erasing the memory on a planetary scale

Originally Posted by Xuanwu

Now I'm wondering if Rugatimu could have authority over celestial bodies as the Sky Prime Ruler? Maybe something like gravitational force that allows him to exert control over natural satellites. That would be pretty cool. Plus, I think Keito was supposed to be a reference to a mythology character that could control eclipses.

Who knows maybe he could absorb the sun light and the radiations of other stars for some charged attack, given the fact that Ishibumi is also a Pokemon's fans I believe that there could be some possibility that we see a reference to the Pokemon's moves Solar Beam. Maybe Shooting Star in his BXB could do the same.

Ragatimu that can get powers for the stars could have some sense he face Vali given the fact that Vali is the descendant of Lucifer that was called the Morningstar.

Who knows maybe the power up that Vali could get thanks Lilith (Mother of the Devils) could be something which has to do with the power of light.

Originally Posted by Xuanwu

Conversely, Durmado could have control over water bodies as the Sea Prime Dynast. Another reason I believe Issei & Ingvild could fight against Durmado and his Prime. Hopefully, they have other special abilities aside from technology.

I'm believe that the Eevie could HAX that come from both their powers and their weapons. If Durmando can control the sea maybe Ingvild will have to reach the BXB or even a Maoufication.

[B214]

Originally Posted by Xuanwu

Well, wouldn't the human world finally be certain about the existence of the supernatural if planets or large satellites like the moon were to suddenly be damaged/destroyed? Not sure if they can cover up something on that scale. It seems like Ishibumi has been building up to that recently.

Now I'm wondering if Rugatimu could have authority over celestial bodies as the Sky Prime Ruler? Maybe something like gravitational force that allows him to exert control over natural satellites. That would be pretty cool. Plus, I think Keito was supposed to be a reference to a mythology character that could control eclipses.

Conversely, Durmado could have control over water bodies as the Sea Prime Dynast. Another reason I believe Issei & Ingvild could fight against Durmado and his Prime. Hopefully, they have other special abilities aside from technology.

Call them Aliens? I mean in a sense Evies are like Aliens right? They aren't supernatural from the DxD world.

[saucerKing]

Originally Posted by Hyodou True DXD

Well I have not attention to mean that Mitsuya's guantlets are a Eevie's technology

https://occult-research.club/project...me_25_New_Dark

From the Volume 25 New Dark


Given what was said here by Tobio it see that Mitsuya is not of the DXD's world and he need the gauntlets, so maybe if he already have the gauntlets before coming in the DXD's world or they are the ones of Satanael like you said and find a way to reach Mitsuya's world and give they to them

Who knows?

Maybe Regalveza and Seralsebs are too the immortality or perhaps Malvezoa have find a way to get the immortality because compared to his big brother is more like scientist strategist than a warrior and so get some technology that have allow him to better than Regalveza and Seralsebs not in terms of powers but about the HAX.

I know that Seralbes that want Issei like a toy or humiliate him could have sound stupid but I have get this idea because of Sefaria that is her miko, maybe Seralbes take for herself those whom she considers the most interesting specimens from the worlds her brothers conquer to keep them as pets or as a source of temporary entertainment.

I agree that this could be a stupid theory but we are speaking about Ishibumi's works

I believe that Malvezoa between the 3 could be the most serious and responsible, Regalveza the maniac battle and Seraselbes maybe something like an extremely spoiled and cruel princess, maybe could turn out that their different characters is the reason why they never invades a world together, they ever need to do so because they all 3 are to much powerful for need to help to each others.

At lest this for now is what I believe before I will gets more informations by Ishibumi which will completely disprove my hypotheses.



I'm realy afraid that Ishibumi will continues to satisfying his mecha boner's side instead of realize our hope to see Giant Dragon Issei with a armor giving what he have said here
From The Shin DXD 3 afterword:


About Chichigami she could be realy powerful maybe we will see her in action even before that final figth again Malvezoa.



Agree with you nobody will cares if this planets will be destroyed, well or it should be better if I say nobody cares of them at least unless if some big piece of them will fall on the Earth?

Yeah Balberith at best could reach the Dragon God Class, he should not be able to even be challenge for Regalveza, unless the Malebranche will do something about it but I doubt.

Some gods could die for take the jobber's task I'm agree with you.

About Azazel I dunno, perhaps between the various mythological factions he made some sort of pact which consists if one or more of the gods were killed by the Eevies they would let their soul be used for new Sacred Gears, perhaps we will see an updated version of the armor appeared in EX that used Typhoon as a source of power, in this way Azazel could compete with the weaker Eevies of the God Chief Class but he still will be killed later in front of Issei's eyes prompting him to achieve something akin to Outrage Mode that transform his body completely into a dragon.

melvazoa is either already immortal or maybe in Ex future he has that bullshit immortality because he gets it later. though if that is the case then i think killing him right now might be a mistake since melvazoa from the future could come and kick everyone butt once he realized what they did. honestly i still have no idea how they are going to defeat him, his abilities are so bullshit that even if you do kill him then he either can just come back and kill you because he manipulates reincarnation, he can resurrect a billion years into the future and travel back in time to kill you as a baby or he can call more versions of himself from another world

remember, this is someone who can contact or communicate or do something whit his version of paralle worlds, has time travel technology and is immortal and manipulates reincarnation techniques. how the hell is issei suppossed to defeat that? still not sure what ishi smoked when he thought "yep, totally fits in DxD!". guy is practically a web novel protagonist at the end of the story

cant he at least satisfy it in a way that is not ripping off just gundam? give us mecha dragons, give us battleship ryuuteimaru, have issei go full tengen toppa. at least chose one of the mobile armors for AxA ffs

then you blast those pieces too, more firepower and gratiutous laser beams always solve everything if you know where to aim. also kind of want to see either azazel or ajuka lose their shit when issei tells them he accidentally blew up pluto

that would not make much sense tho, sacred gears are useful and all but you need to train the user from the ground up until they are at the level of said gods while you could just... resurrect those gods. but you know who could make for great sacred gears the prisoners in cocytus and the invading evies. evies have cores, sacred gears are made by shoving a thing into another weapon-shaped thing. therefore it makes sense to start using those dead evies for something, maybe they will go full god eater and start collecting the cores to power up super-weapons or some other nonsense

Originally Posted by Xuanwu

Well, wouldn't the human world finally be certain about the existence of the supernatural if planets or large satellites like the moon were to suddenly be damaged/destroyed? Not sure if they can cover up something on that scale. It seems like Ishibumi has been building up to that recently.

Now I'm wondering if Rugatimu could have authority over celestial bodies as the Sky Prime Ruler? Maybe something like gravitational force that allows him to exert control over natural satellites. That would be pretty cool. Plus, I think Keito was supposed to be a reference to a mythology character that could control eclipses.

Conversely, Durmado could have control over water bodies as the Sea Prime Dynast. Another reason I believe Issei & Ingvild could fight against Durmado and his Prime. Hopefully, they have other special abilities aside from technology.

they are going to be certain about that anyways. a full-blown alien invasion is coming and unlike the rest of the antagonist they are not playing by local rules, they wont care about the masquerade, they will just grab the biggest world and set shop there before going on a crusade. from a tactical point of view invading earth first, which is the weakest of all realms and the one conected to all other ones not to mention how important it is to the other factions, is the obvious first step

i think they are called sky prime ruler because he is the biggest and baddest motherfucker among the evies on the sky, he literally rules the sky because no one can challenge him there. though i do think he could have gravity powers, after all he fights in space so more conventional powers are not very useful there. also because doing a colony drop seems like the obvious weapon for a spaceship

that too, while i think they will have purely technology its likely it will be more of the clarke tech kind. basically tech so advanced it might as well be magic, so space blastoise is a go

[Hyodou True DXD]

Originally Posted by saucerKing

melvazoa is either already immortal or maybe in Ex future he has that bullshit immortality because he gets it later. though if that is the case then i think killing him right now might be a mistake since melvazoa from the future could come and kick everyone butt once he realized what they did. honestly i still have no idea how they are going to defeat him, his abilities are so bullshit that even if you do kill him then he either can just come back and kill you because he manipulates reincarnation, he can resurrect a billion years into the future and travel back in time to kill you as a baby or he can call more versions of himself from another world

remember, this is someone who can contact or communicate or do something whit his version of paralle worlds, has time travel technology and is immortal and manipulates reincarnation techniques. how the hell is issei suppossed to defeat that? still not sure what ishi smoked when he thought "yep, totally fits in DxD!". guy is practically a web novel protagonist at the end of the story

I don't know how Issei should defeat him, well if can't kill him Issei however could triggered him to surrender. Maybe Issei thanks the power he will get from Chichigami and the Heavenly Breast could too get some kind of HAX, perhaps if Issei start to get the advantaged Malvezoa will try to go back in time for kill both him, his parents and all of his ancestors from every possibile timeline in a crazy attempt to erase him from existence only for find Issei every time in front of him or in his back ready to bitch slapping him.

Maybe due his power Malvezoa has never find himself in a situation when he can't win so for him a draw could be something realy terribile like a torture...

If you have see the Dr Strange's movie you could understand better this reasoning of mine.

I'm agree with you that Malvezoa is too broken for the Highschool DXD's universe but if Ishibumi has creating him as antagonist then a way for at least be stoping him there should be..

Originally Posted by saucerKing

cant he at least satisfy it in a way that is not ripping off just gundam? give us mecha dragons, give us battleship ryuuteimaru, have issei go full tengen toppa. at least chose one of the mobile armors for AxA ffs

then you blast those pieces too, more firepower and gratiutous laser beams always solve everything if you know where to aim. also kind of want to see either azazel or ajuka lose their shit when issei tells them he accidentally blew up pluto


they are going to be certain about that anyways. a full-blown alien invasion is coming and unlike the rest of the antagonist they are not playing by local rules, they wont care about the masquerade, they will just grab the biggest world and set shop there before going on a crusade. from a tactical point of view invading earth first, which is the weakest of all realms and the one conected to all other ones not to mention how important it is to the other factions, is the obvious first step

For me Issei should realy go Tegen Toppa for defeat Malvezoa

About the Mecha Dragons I think that some little chances to see something like that in future could be.

Maybe Vali too could get a Dragon Mecha form both his wings in the DXD L that can turn into a wyverns and the Malebranche are 12 in numbers, so perhaps the Malebranche will temporarily merge with the Wyvern and then they all stick together to the Vali's armor giving him a look like the Dragon Knight that you have already suggested to him in the other thread.

Ryuuuteimaru could becoming a giant battle ship, Ishibumi has said that the result of AXA+ True DXD G+ Eros X Engine could be something of fantastic so I guess that Ryuuuteimaru could becoming into a giant battle ships that could look like a mecha dragon, perhaps it can even be a multiple seat driving, the girls that are the Heavenly Breast could help Issei to drive it and focused the powers of their breast in the many weapons.

I think that Azazel and Ajuka will not be the only ones to lost their shit discovering that a planet or even more is becoming a jobber for the power of Issei

For me is impossibile that at the end of this story the people still don't know about the supernatural world, unless Issei will get a HAX of reality warping that allow to him to completing erase every single trace that there has ever been an invasion and a war

Originally Posted by saucerKing

that would not make much sense tho, sacred gears are useful and all but you need to train the user from the ground up until they are at the level of said gods while you could just... resurrect those gods. but you know who could make for great sacred gears the prisoners in cocytus and the invading evies. evies have cores, sacred gears are made by shoving a thing into another weapon-shaped thing. therefore it makes sense to start using those dead evies for something, maybe they will go full god eater and start collecting the cores to power up super-weapons or some other nonsense

i think they are called sky prime ruler because he is the biggest and baddest motherfucker among the evies on the sky, he literally rules the sky because no one can challenge him there. though i do think he could have gravity powers, after all he fights in space so more conventional powers are not very useful there. also because doing a colony drop seems like the obvious weapon for a spaceship

that too, while i think they will have purely technology its likely it will be more of the clarke tech kind. basically tech so advanced it might as well be magic, so space blastoise is a go

Maybe the one who could use the sacred gears that have the souls of the gods that could be killed will be Azazel himself and the members of Sitri's peerage that have already tried out the artficial sacred gear of Azazel, but I understand what you mean about speaking of nonsense.

Yeah the gravity manipulation and something like a space Blastoise should be possibile, right now we shouldn't be surprised at any shit Ishibumi might come up with

[Xuanwu]

It's possible Melvazoa won't be killed and maybe they could come to a ceasefire or peaceful solution. Like, keep in mind the fact that we don't even know the other aspects of Melvazoa's immortality:

Due to him being invulnerable and having transcended death (him being able to manipulate reincarnation techniques as well as the concept of existence itself, being able to interfere with himself from parallel worlds, manipulate time etc., he is thus able to preserve "himself" as much as he likes), the fight between the good and evil gods has become a battle in which the good god Resetoras seeks supremacy without completely overthrowing Malvezoa.

Notice how Ishibumi adds an "etc" there, which suggests there's still more that he didn't reveal. This is the report Azazel got from Gasper, so it's certainly possible that those from the future are not even aware of the full extent of Melvazoa's immortality yet. I'm not sure if Ishibumi is going to kill this guy off.

But who knows, oppai power might just solve everything in the end.

[Hyodou True DXD]

Originally Posted by Xuanwu

It's possible Melvazoa won't be killed and maybe they could come to a ceasefire or peaceful solution.

I think could happen a situation like the one of the Dr Strange movie when Dr Strange have not defeat Dormammu but he still managed to trigger him to not make further damage

Originally Posted by Xuanwu

Notice how Ishibumi adds an "etc" there, which suggests there's still more that he didn't reveal. This is the report Azazel got from Gasper, so it's certainly possible that those from the future are not even aware of the full extent of Melvazoa's immortality yet. I'm not sure if Ishibumi is going to kill this guy off.

Yeah Malvezoa could have some other HAX about his immortality, maybe Ishibumi want that to Issei this time will solve the problem in a different manner.

Originally Posted by Xuanwu

But who knows, oppai power might just solve everything in the end.

https://occult-research.club/project...lume_25_Life_2

[Oppai Dragon, I don’t have much time. I have to tell you about something.]

W-What is it?

[In the near future, a malevolent being will come to your world. You have to gather certain things in order to defeat that malevolent being.]

M-Malevolent being? Things I have to gather?

[Look.]

Ah! I wasn’t really sure, but there were lots of breasts floating in the sky! O-On top of that, I remembered seeing this somewhere before! F-From the right, Rias’ oppai, Akeno-san’s oppai, Xenovia’s, Irina’s oppai, Asia’s oppai, Shirone a.k.a Koneko-chan’s small oppai, and Kuroka’s oppai! —Wait, I know all of these oppai!

[That’s right. Those are the [Chosen Heavenly Breasts]]

—[Chosen Heavenly Breasts]!

What a…dumb phrase! You can even go nuts just by hearing its name!

[You have to gather all twelve pairs of the [Chosen Heavenly Breasts]. Right now, you already have seven pairs. Gather the remaining five pairs.]

Why!? How!? By what means!?

[I’ve said it before. Those [Chosen Heavenly Breasts] will be important when you meet the malevolent being. And, as to how to gather them, I am sure you already know about that.]

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[The world that you’re in, it’s being exposed to a threat like none before. The incarnation of darkness is setting something up with the evil that’s closest to your world. Oppai Dragon, in order to prepare you to fight against the coming evil beings, you have to gather all of these.]

They must be talking about the Heavenly Breasts or something like that! I was asked to do the same thing last time as well! Yes, when I managed to connect to Chichigami last time, they talked about something rather weird as I was asked to gather the twelve pairs of Heavenly Breasts! I-I think they might be talking about the girls that I’m engaged to. I mean, that’s the common thing that all of these floating breasts have!

[The twelve pairs of Heavenly Breasts are elements that will generate hope. Please make sure you gather them. The evil is approaching.]

So said the Chichigami-sama, but… If that’s the case, then the ‘evil’ in question wasn’t the rulers of Hell with Hades as the lead, huh… As I thought deeply — the sky lit up once again. As I looked up — new boobs showed up! Ah! I had also seen this before! It’s Ravel’s oppai! And that one is—. Wait, there are some oppai I’ve never seen before. The sizes differ as well! No, wait! If you added Rias’s and the others’ oppai, the number exceeded twelve!

[There are some oppai that you’ve never physically experienced, but the chosen Heavenly Breasts number roughly around twelve pairs.]

—So said Chichigami-sama. Roughly, you say? Even though they’re ‘chosen’, you’ll go with ‘roughly’, huh… What did ‘twelve pairs of Heavenly Breasts’ even mean…? So that meant I’d have to gather at least twelve for now, huh…? It was too fuzzy and abstract, so I didn’t understand anything! But, the oppai I’d never physically experienced—. …This sounds great. Now I want to try them!

[It seems like this is the end. When the time comes, let’s talk again.]

Huh!? S-So they’ll end this call one-sidedly again!? I still have many questions, you know!?

[Gather the Heavenly Breasts. When the time comes, you’ll know why you need the twelve pairs of Heavenly Breasts. —And then, you will become a father alongside those breasts. Understood?]

—Become a father along with breasts! Please stop! Why’s the Chichigami-sama telling me things that might make me go nuts!?

[Good bye—Good bye… Good b—]

Well if Chichigami has said to Issei to find the 12 Heavenly Breast because them can help him to defeat Malvezoa( In a way that we will still not know yet) there must be a reason

[B214]

The quoted part makes it seem like the children of the twelve heavenly breasts will be the key to stopping Melvazoa instead of Ise.

[saucerKing]

Originally Posted by Hyodou True DXD

I don't know how Issei should defeat him, well if can't kill him Issei however could triggered him to surrender. Maybe Issei thanks the power he will get from Chichigami and the Heavenly Breast could too get some kind of HAX, perhaps if Issei start to get the advantaged Malvezoa will try to go back in time for kill both him, his parents and all of his ancestors from every possibile timeline in a crazy attempt to erase him from existence only for find Issei every time in front of him or in his back ready to bitch slapping him.

Maybe due his power Malvezoa has never find himself in a situation when he can't win so for him a draw could be something realy terribile like a torture...

If you have see the Dr Strange's movie you could understand better this reasoning of mine.

I'm agree with you that Malvezoa is too broken for the Highschool DXD's universe but if Ishibumi has creating him as antagonist then a way for at least be stoping him there should be..



For me Issei should realy go Tegen Toppa for defeat Malvezoa

About the Mecha Dragons I think that some little chances to see something like that in future could be.

Maybe Vali too could get a Dragon Mecha form both his wings in the DXD L that can turn into a wyverns and the Malebranche are 12 in numbers, so perhaps the Malebranche will temporarily merge with the Wyvern and then they all stick together to the Vali's armor giving him a look like the Dragon Knight that you have already suggested to him in the other thread.

Ryuuuteimaru could becoming a giant battle ship, Ishibumi has said that the result of AXA+ True DXD G+ Eros X Engine could be something of fantastic so I guess that Ryuuuteimaru could becoming into a giant battle ships that could look like a mecha dragon, perhaps it can even be a multiple seat driving, the girls that are the Heavenly Breast could help Issei to drive it and focused the powers of their breast in the many weapons.

I think that Azazel and Ajuka will not be the only ones to lost their shit discovering that a planet or even more is becoming a jobber for the power of Issei

For me is impossibile that at the end of this story the people still don't know about the supernatural world, unless Issei will get a HAX of reality warping that allow to him to completing erase every single trace that there has ever been an invasion and a war



Maybe the one who could use the sacred gears that have the souls of the gods that could be killed will be Azazel himself and the members of Sitri's peerage that have already tried out the artficial sacred gear of Azazel, but I understand what you mean about speaking of nonsense.

Yeah the gravity manipulation and something like a space Blastoise should be possibile, right now we shouldn't be surprised at any shit Ishibumi might come up with

"In the end, it was not magic or sacred gears that defeated the aliens, but that humblest of all God's gifts... breasts"

jokes aside this is a real possibility and i dont know how to feel about the idea that breasts > everything else

well to be fair strange had almost absolute powers over time to trap dormammu for who knows how long in the same 15 seconds. that sounds more like something gasper could do than issei. unless the power of breasts governs time or something. yeah there should be a way the thing is that even if the 12 heavenly breast are suppossed to be that way i have a lot of trouble connecting issei oppai obsession whit a power that somehow can kill melvazoa, it likely will happen but i can only draw blanks of how its supposed to

we dont know, maybe the evies will be like trihexa and act very nice not fighting near those poor humies, because i did not think trihexa could awaken and no one find out but hey apparently most of humanity believed the "its CGI!" excuse when everyone was repainting a whole countryside. at this point i would not be surprised if the evies decide not to attack the human world at all... on the other hand its also likely trihexa did not break the masquerade so the evies could because that would have been a huge blow to the status quo and seeing the favoritism the evies get its likely ishibumi saved all the cool shit for them

like i said i dont think this is a viable idea unless they use gods that would not ever help the alliance since training someone to use said sacred gears to their fullest could take years, years they dont have. but on the other hand valerie exists and a shit ton of legendary monsters are still dead so its not like they are lacking in materials, just throw chronos, the titans and the evil dragons into one and start pumping them out.

Originally Posted by Xuanwu

It's possible Melvazoa won't be killed and maybe they could come to a ceasefire or peaceful solution. Like, keep in mind the fact that we don't even know the other aspects of Melvazoa's immortality:


Notice how Ishibumi adds an "etc" there, which suggests there's still more that he didn't reveal. This is the report Azazel got from Gasper, so it's certainly possible that those from the future are not even aware of the full extent of Melvazoa's immortality yet. I'm not sure if Ishibumi is going to kill this guy off.

But who knows, oppai power might just solve everything in the end.

issei will become a conceptual entity that represents the love for breasts and erase melvazoa from reality, becoming a new hadou god and spreading the love of breasts trought the multiverse :v

at this point im starting to wonder if the joke about oppai power did not come too far if issei is defeating things like melvazoa because OPPAI

there is also how chichigami says issei has to gather the 12 heavenly breasts, but not that they will actually give him some kind of power. rather it sounds like some prophecy where gathering the breasts is a step of it and not the end goal. so maybe like B214 says the reason to gather them is so he can get laid and birth the chosen ones... or we will get some bizarre egine powered by 12 girls getting their breasts connected to create a fissure to the oppai dimension from where to obtain infinite power, at this point its kind of hard to predict anything when everything is about breasts defeating some lovecraftian mecha god. everything is too bizarre to apply logic anymore

[Hyodou True DXD]

Originally Posted by saucerKing

"In the end, it was not magic or sacred gears that defeated the aliens, but that humblest of all God's gifts... breasts"

jokes aside this is a real possibility and i dont know how to feel about the idea that breasts > everything else

well to be fair strange had almost absolute powers over time to trap dormammu for who knows how long in the same 15 seconds. that sounds more like something gasper could do than issei. unless the power of breasts governs time or something. yeah there should be a way the thing is that even if the 12 heavenly breast are suppossed to be that way i have a lot of trouble connecting issei oppai obsession whit a power that somehow can kill melvazoa, it likely will happen but i can only draw blanks of how its supposed to

issei will become a conceptual entity that represents the love for breasts and erase melvazoa from reality, becoming a new hadou god and spreading the love of breasts trought the multiverse :v

at this point im starting to wonder if the joke about oppai power did not come too far if issei is defeating things like melvazoa because OPPAI

or we will get some bizarre egine powered by 12 girls getting their breasts connected to create a fissure to the oppai dimension from where to obtain infinite power, at this point its kind of hard to predict anything when everything is about breasts defeating some lovecraftian mecha god. everything is too bizarre to apply logic anymore

I know that tricked Malvezoa with a Time Loop should be something more from Gasper than Issei but Malvezoa's time manipulation should superior than the one of Gasper so he could break the time loop when Gasper tries to trap him, when instead Issei with power of the 12 Heavenly Breast could strong or stronger than Malvezoa so he can be able to push him to a situation of absolute stalemate making Malvezoa so impatient and annoyed to the point of forcing him to surrender.

I believe that the girls could be used like a engine, we already have Eros that in future could be used for that job, maybe Eros or who knows Sefaria will be used like a link between Chichigami and the girls for giving the blessing to Issei for get the power of the Heavelny Breast, or some stuff like that

I understand what you mean, Ishibumi may have really gone a little too far with this story of the Oppai's power that can make miracle.
I remember some time on this forum or on the Highschool DXD wiki or on Reddit (I don't remember this detail very well) I read about a theory from a guy that Issei was actually a gift from Chichigami to Miki and Gorou and so his powers of Oppai Dragon derive from the fact that he is a creature originating from the EXE world and in a certain sense the illegitimate son of Chichigami.

In this lately time I'm starting to wonder if this can't turn out to be true

Originally Posted by saucerKing

we dont know, maybe the evies will be like trihexa and act very nice not fighting near those poor humies, because i did not think trihexa could awaken and no one find out but hey apparently most of humanity believed the "its CGI!" excuse when everyone was repainting a whole countryside. at this point i would not be surprised if the evies decide not to attack the human world at all... on the other hand its also likely trihexa did not break the masquerade so the evies could because that would have been a huge blow to the status quo and seeing the favoritism the evies get its likely ishibumi saved all the cool shit for them

like i said i dont think this is a viable idea unless they use gods that would not ever help the alliance since training someone to use said sacred gears to their fullest could take years, years they dont have. but on the other hand valerie exists and a shit ton of legendary monsters are still dead so its not like they are lacking in materials, just throw chronos, the titans and the evil dragons into one and start pumping them out.

I believe that the Eevie will attack even the human's world because they want the complete domination over the Earth so eliminating all life forms that they can represent some form of annoyance or delay to their plans. I think that Trihexa could be free start to attack some Eevie and the shit happens

About Valerie yeah this could something she could maybe in her BXB if she will have it, at this point Ishibumi could bring back Leonardo too because anyway he too is nothing special right now

Originally Posted by B214

The quoted part makes it seem like the children of the twelve heavenly breasts will be the key to stopping Melvazoa instead of Ise.

Originally Posted by saucerKing

rather it sounds like some prophecy where gathering the breasts is a step of it and not the end goal. so maybe like B214 says the reason to gather them is so he can get laid and birth the chosen ones

Yeah good observation here.
Who knows maybe in the end Malvezoa will choose to not appear before the 30 years.

It can be that at least for now the only Eevie that could appear will be only the ones with the mission of find Sefaria, Regalveza could show up and he will fight and defeat the DXD but suddenly he is forced to go back into the EXE world through some form of dimensional travel technology and maybe after the Volumes when the last Azazel Cup's matches take place there will be a 30 year time skip.

[Xuanwu]

^Lol, I am also starting to get worried that Issei could be a special dude related to Chichigami or something like that, similarly to how Naruto turned out to be a reincarnation of a demigod and all that, which might be why he can trigger miracles with breasts of all things. I think something similar happened with the MC of Date A Live, although I've never read that so not sure if it's actually true.

Although Ishibumi seems to have recently doubled down on Issei being a normal dude with a SG by writing the scene where Hades was thinking about his rise to the top, I'm still a bit ponderous about it.

[Hyodou True DXD]

Yeah Xuanwu you are right about the MC of Date A Live. I'm not a big fan of Naruto but however I have found that story that he is the reincarnation of a alien/demi-god more like a forced bullshit than plot twist.

Well about Issei I dunno, who knows? Ishibumi could even have just started with the madness...
Living we will see...

However Xuanwu what you think about what I have said in my previous post regarding the possibile last power ups of Issei and Vali?:

Maybe Vali too could get a Dragon Mecha form both his wings in the DXD L that can turn into a wyverns and the Malebranche are 12 in numbers, so perhaps the Malebranche will temporarily merge with the Wyvern and then they all stick together to the Vali's armor giving him a look like the Dragon Knight that you have already suggested to him in the other thread.

Ryuuuteimaru could becoming a giant battle ship, Ishibumi has said that the result of AXA+ True DXD G+ Eros X Engine could be something of fantastic so I guess that Ryuuuteimaru could becoming into a giant battle ships that could look like a mecha dragon, perhaps it can even be a multiple seat driving, the girls that are the Heavenly Breast could help Issei to drive it and focused the powers of their breast in the many weapons.

I believe that the girls could be used like a engine, we already have Eros that in future could be used for that job, maybe Eros or who knows Sefaria will be used like a link between Chichigami and the girls for giving the blessing to Issei for get the power of the Heavelny Breast, or some stuff like that

[B214]

Originally Posted by Xuanwu

^Lol, I am also starting to get worried that Issei could be a special dude related to Chichigami or something like that, similarly to how Naruto turned out to be a reincarnation of a demigod and all that, which might be why he can trigger miracles with breasts of all things. I think something similar happened with the MC of Date A Live, although I've never read that so not sure if it's actually true.

Although Ishibumi seems to have recently doubled down on Issei being a normal dude with a SG by writing the scene where Hades was thinking about his rise to the top, I'm still a bit ponderous about it.

Chichigami is a multiverse version of Ise.
In the other world, Ise and Kiba are females while Rias and the girls are male.