2016-10-28, 08:38 | Link #322 | |
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In my opinion most useful witches are Nightingale (invisability plus ability to tell when a person is lying is very strong), Leaf (tinker with plants seeds and you can have crops growing twice as fast if not faster), Nanawa (all injuries can be healed), Soluya (coating without any need of materials is very OP), and Lily (at first its just food preservation but it evolves to micro-bacterial power which means she can cure any kind of epidemic or cause any kind of epidemics). Moon can be very powerful but not in current advancement of technology. Spoiler for spoiler:
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2016-10-28, 09:40 | Link #323 | |
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2016-10-28, 09:49 | Link #324 |
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I dont think Anna's power is all that useful. MC could have achieved similar results albeit slower.
Lily is much more powerful than Nana. If MC decided to destroy whole population he could just send Lily and do her stuff. Lily is a essentially a bio-chemical weapon. Here people talk of a nuclear bomb failing to notice that Roland already has a weapon of mass destruction in Lily. |
2016-10-28, 10:41 | Link #326 | |
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All and all having bio-chemical weapon is more powerful than the rest of the powers really. If Roland were a psycho, one could wipe the whole humanity in the continent thanks to Lily power. |
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2016-10-28, 13:28 | Link #327 | |
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Without her the concrete wall and flintlock couldn't exist to resist month of demon beast. And without that there will be no witches as useful as Nightingale, Leaf, Lily, Wendy, Hummingbird, Echo, Scroll. At that time Roland takes refuge in longsong stronghold. And by that time those girl will perished in the hand of devil. Even when they're survive. Roland counldn't save them. Without Anna power that created microscope. Lily power would never evolve. The majority of BT Industrial Revolution was happen around Anna... Remember steam engine? Roland itself has said to Anna that current Border Town was exist because Anna power. Without Anna Roland knowlegde is pretty Useless.. Later Anna gained new ability that rivaled Laser cutter, thus advancing Industrial revolution to next stage. That how Important Anna is to Roland and his entire plan.. ROLAND WILL NEVER ACHIEVE SAME RESULT WITHOUT ANNA... now tell me wich achievement that Roland possibly achieve without Anna.
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2016-10-28, 14:37 | Link #328 | |
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http://wapbaike.baidu.com/item/放开那个女巫?adapt=1
I found the wiki. It has a large amount of information on the witches and everything else Quote:
You greatly greatly greatly underestimate the importance of Fire. All humanity is nothing without fire
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2016-10-29, 02:53 | Link #330 | |
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Still Anna's power is not essential to the industrialization. Her power is essential to speeding up the industrialization, which in the story is the main thing because with that speed boost Roland probably would be dead by now. But say 5 year limit is still on and no civil war is provoked, Roland could have achieved a lot of things you listed by himself given time. And I dont underestimate the fire. Human civilization is based on fire. But Anna didnt bring fire to stone age. Fire already existed before her meaning with time Roland could have constructed most of things - steam engine, flintlocks etc, they however would have taken longer time to construct. |
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2016-10-29, 03:19 | Link #331 |
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^Darknemo2000 ... am thinking you're just looking at Anna's fire as something warm . . . she's basically a walking welding torch .. without her power, not even the steam engine would work .. Roland basically started the quasi-industrialization because of Anna's power .. without her, I think he'll only be focused on food crops or whatnot
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2016-10-29, 04:38 | Link #332 |
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Steam engine can perfectly work without her. Heron described the steam engine principle and thats way before the middle ages in our world. Heat is essential for steam engine, but just plain fire and not Anna's fire could have worked just as fine its just the making of the actual steam engine would have taken a while.
What I see Anna's power is something that sped up the Roland's industrialization but wasn't essential to it. Yes, thanks to the story, plot timing is everything thats why Anna's power seems like super uber important (and timing wise - it is) but in reality Roland could have achieved most of those things himself just at a very slower pace. He would have lost pretty much all of the witches though without her. Last edited by Darknemo2000; 2016-10-29 at 05:00. |
2016-10-29, 06:03 | Link #333 |
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No not really, as far as industrial progress goes, Anna is the most Uber OP, take the Steam engine for example, once in the alternate history forum that i frequent lately, one poses the question that if someone moved to the mediaval time, is it realistically possible to bring in fuure technology if one were to knew the blueprints and principle.
The result of the debate is that's it very hard or take a long time not because of the technology or material involved, but the sheer degree of precision involved in the process, any of the later steam engine part are next to impossible to copy with the precision of Human hand. In our specific case, the cylinder required precision that is too much to most master craftsmen. Anna power effectively make a very high precision welding, cutting machine that's correct to milimetters, effectively removed the weakness the the progress. If we were to removed Anna from our equation, we are looking at a 15-20 years scenario for a working steam engine |
2016-10-29, 07:04 | Link #334 | |
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2016-10-29, 07:27 | Link #335 | |
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Without Anna Rolands steam engine would have been much less efficient energy/production wise, but at the same time even with the materials at his hand he could have made an engine in the end though less good and slower than the engine with Anna. |
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2016-10-29, 09:51 | Link #337 | |
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And making his stuff that would have taken like at least 20 years in 1 year instead is unquestionably very advantageous to him. To dispute that is just wrong and dumb. |
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2016-10-29, 23:46 | Link #338 | |
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2016-10-30, 00:29 | Link #339 | |
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2016-10-30, 09:20 | Link #340 | |
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I mean ancient Greece even had the ideas of atom. And a lot of that knowledge was forgotten or erased thanks to Church and only introduced much later thanks to islam or lucky circumstances. I guess thats one thing that this story gets right - Church is the source of evil and is anti-progressive. I have seen people complaining how come that organized religion is almost always the bad guy in all the plots but thats something you learn by looking at our history. Organized religions always gave us more wars than peace, more dead than lives saved. |
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