Guilty Crown - General Discussion

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Shu doesn't have what it takes to be a good antagonist. Having a plot twist for the sake of surprises doesn't necessarily make it good.

I completely agree; trying being a good protagonist first that people can support, trust and rely on before trying to be a villain because it doesn't get any easier -_-

Originally Posted by djmaca

True. But then if he were to have a happy ending, it would be a waste of a very GAR title. I mean it's "GUILTY CROWN", he must be, at least, guilty of something.

I believe it was mentioned in the promo or something that it's the guilt of using your friends as weapons.

[Patriot's Blade]

Spoiler for very sexy Inori:

[felix]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Shu doesn't have what it takes to be a good antagonist. Having a plot twist for the sake of surprises doesn't necessarily make it good.

Agree. Shu is the only protagonist at this point, for him to become an antagonist would mean there would be 0 protagonists, which then means he's not an antagonist since the definition of antagonist is that it's something/someone that goes against the protagonist; turning "evil" is not sufficient to be an antagonist.

[Shinji103]

Originally Posted by DRAGUN H.E.X.

Spoiler for very sexy Inori:

Excuse me while I go find a bottle of alcohol and a lighter for DRAGUN here.

[djmaca]

Originally Posted by DRAGUN H.E.X.

Spoiler for very sexy Inori:

I'll now have to go to Tvtropes and find Brain Bleach, thank you very much....

[Tiresias]

Originally Posted by DRAGUN H.E.X.

Spoiler for very sexy Inori:

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I know I've compared Shu with Doraemon before, but this is just...gah!

Spoiler for AArgh, my childhood!:

For those not familiar, Nobita (the boy in the picture) was known for his hobby in ayatori

[djmaca]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I believe it was mentioned in the promo or something that it's the guilt of using your friends as weapons.

Which promo? And are you referring to that:

The right to use my friend as a weapon.
That is the sinful crown
I shall adorn.
I accept this "guilt."

Found it here.

[Tohyama]

Originally Posted by djmaca

Which promo? And are you referring to that:

The right to use my friend as a weapon.
That is the sinful crown
I shall adorn.
I accept this "guilt."

Found it here.

I think that's for Gai.

[Flawfinder]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I completely agree; trying being a good protagonist first that people can support, trust and rely on before trying to be a villain because it doesn't get any easier -_-

Just because you're intending to do something doesn't mean you're doing it right. Just like how I don't think Shu being a "realistic hero" is being done well, I don't think any eventual betrayal by Shu is being set up very well either. In addition to making you care about the character, you have to establish the character as hopeful first. I can't recall one time Shu has been hopeful (even Lelouch had hopeful moments before he became all evil and fabulously cool), so we're going to have to wait a bit if that's what the anime is leading to.

[Soji]

Originally Posted by Tohyama

I think that's for Gai.

Doesn't make sense if it is for Gai though.

It looks more like a phrase linked to the power of the king. The one belonging to Shu. ...but who know.

[Tohyama]

Originally Posted by Soji

Doesn't make sense if it is for Gai though.

It looks more like a phrase linked to the power of the king. The one belonging to Shu. ...but who know.

Spoiler for Possible spoiler:

I said Gai because he's using his friend (namely Shu) as a weapon and being guilty at it.(well that part was not shown yet).

well i might be wrong but this is what i can think of based on the episodes so far D:

[Soji]

Originally Posted by Tohyama

Spoiler for Possible spoiler:

I said Gai because he's using his friend (namely Shu) as a weapon and being guilty at it.(well that part was not shown yet).

well i might be wrong but this is what i can think of based on the episodes so far D:

Spoiler for Spoiler:

If you put it that way I understand why you think Gai be the one.
But thinking better can go both way.
It is really enigmatic that phrase.
I suppose we must wait to see if he was referring only to one or at both of them.

[pinoscotto]

i think voids and the virus are linked some way, so it's possible that extract a void can cause infection to the owner
the "guilty" would be clear this way

[Soji]

Originally Posted by pinoscotto

i think voids and the virus are linked some way, so it's possible that extract a void can cause infection to the owner
the "guilty" would be clear this way

It is possible....but if this is the case does not mean that Gai would be a hypocrite?

Anyway ...
You know there's something that bothers me.
We know what Shu feel about Inori and initially I thought it was because he is a great fans of her and because she has proved to be kind to him not to mention the things she said.
So I was wondering it's really just for this that Shu has developed these feelings for Inori soquickly or there is more?
I was wondering if in fact it was not for the other girl we saw in this episode 6....or perhaps for everything I've said so far?

What do you guys think?

[felix]

Originally Posted by Soji

It is possible....but if this is the case does not mean that Gai would be a hypocrite?

Hm. What would the contradiction be to make him a hypocrite?

[Soji]

Originally Posted by felix

Hm. What would the contradiction be to make him a hypocrite?

Well....If draw out the weapons Void can really cause the apocalypse virus and if that girl which resembles Inori was really infected by that virus.And Gai would keep Shu using the Void weampons even knowing that...I would call it hypocrisy, especially knowing the suffering that this virus causes. After all, it seems that Gai was very fond of that girl we saw that he continues to hold up her cross not counting what he said to Inori.This is why I said so ,at least he not plan on giving all the blame on Shu, and this would be even worse.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Soji

Anyway ...
You know there's something that bothers me.
We know what Shu feel about Inori and initially I thought it was because he is a great fans of her and because she has proved to be kind to him not to mention the things she said.
So I was wondering it's really just for this that Shu has developed these feelings for Inori soquickly or there is more?

She is smoking hot and walks around half-naked. That's about it. A teenager doesn't need much more than that to develop feelings for a girl.

[Flawfinder]

Originally Posted by Kanon

She is smoking hot and walks around half-naked. That's about it. A teenager doesn't need much more than that to develop feelings for a girl.

Why do I think of a gender-reversed version of Twilight whenever somebody says that?

[djmaca]

Originally Posted by Flawnalyst

Why do I think of a gender-reversed version of Twilight whenever somebody says that?

Huh? Which male in Twilight walks around half-naked?

Also I have a query?

I was told that the void weapon is turning genetic information into computer data and transforming it into a weapon.

Then another one told me its a person's emotions.

Which is it?

[Flawfinder]

Originally Posted by djmaca

Huh? Which male in Twilight walks around half-naked?

I'm mostly going by the movies with this, but quite a lot of them. Actually, practically all of them. It's like a gender-reversed harem anime the more I look at it.

But getting back on track with Guilty Crown, I have no idea what the voids are. I don't think they explained it either. Hopefully, it will come up in the future.