Fate/stay night Episode 2 Discussion thread

[Mr. Guy]

Welcome to the discussion thread for the second episode of Fate/stay night. Air date: Fri 13th Jan 2006 (late Friday night / early Saturday morning)

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Originally Posted by vin.dictive

And its niice to finally here on this thread. I see one familiar face. Guy!

why halo thar.

One episode 2 thread (spoilers). It seems they cover a lot more in this episode then I thought they would, that is unless this scene (still spoiler) is shown in the episode 3 preview. Looks to be a very good episode! I can't wait to see it.

[Freakman]

Just saw ep 2. Pretty much as I envisioned it.
Most fights were animated pretty well.
It's fun seeing what you read as static text come to life.

And yes, that scene with

Spoiler for for ep 3:

Saber in poncho in front of the church

is from the preview.
The episode ends as everyone predicted with the

Spoiler for light spoiler:

Are you my Master ?

scene.

[Mentar]

Ep2 was excellent! They managed to get the most important thing right: Creating tension and atmosphere. The part after the eyecatch was simply sugoi!

[MakubeX2]

Spoiler:

Art thou my Master ?

[Sushi-Y]

For the most part, I'm pretty satisfied with episode 2, Saber's appearance had a sufficient build-up so it didn't feel botched. And Lancer seemed to fit my image of him from the game pretty well.

But I don't know why in the world would they portray Rin and Archer as being able to fly. Takes less time to draw maybe? I don't remember anyone from Fate flying except maybe Caster, and Shirou when he's getting beat up all the time.

[Takemi_Ikazuchi]

Seemed more like gliding to me..

and you know.. Rin does have a fetish for tall buildings it seems..

[Sushi-Y]

Originally Posted by Takemi_Ikazuchi

Seemed more like gliding to me..

and you know.. Rin does have a fetish for tall buildings it seems..

When you can "glide" across the entire town (Shirou and Rin's houses are located on the opposite ends of Fukayamachou), I'd say that's as good as being able to fly. ^^;

Rin has a lot of fetishes, one being "slang creation". 殴っ血KILL is still the most brilliant word I've ever seen.

[MrProphet]

Great episode, just like everyone has said, and she is a perfect mix of cuteness and strenght. 8)

I won't go into details, since you are going to see it on your own anyway, but I do have a couple of questions that have been nagging me throughout.

1) Why is Archer using scimitars if he is a long-range type of Servant? Why not a bow or some kind of throwing weapon?

2) OK, 2 may be kinda spoilerish, so I'll tag it...

Spoiler:

Honestly, I am coming to this absolutely clueless, but is Shinji the Master of Lancer?

A long-long time ago I've read some of the FSN game spoilers, but I've forgotten pretty much all of it by now, so I am really hitting it in the dark here...

But it sure does seem like Lancer is doing Shinji's bidding. Who else would have a reason to sic Lancer on Tousaka, if not Shinji Matou, whom Tousaka has just sent packing?

Speaking of Tousaka: I just love her chemistry with Archer. Her admonition that she wanted a Saber was just priceless. And her beautiful pale-green eyes...

And Shinji reminded me of Saionji from Utena for some reason. Same kind of guy, it seems like...

Looking forward to episode 3 now. And please, let there be more Rin! 8)

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Sushi-Y

When you can "glide" across the entire town (Shirou and Rin's houses are located on the opposite ends of Fukayamachou), I'd say that's as good as being able to fly. ^^;

They did do that rainbow effect thing with Archer and Lancer in the OP..... That seemed pretty lazy too. Well, Nasu probably had some say in it, since I don't think running scenes are difficult.

I like it that the final scene looked a bit different compared to Curtain Raiser. Not too stiff.

I know it's wayyy to early to say this, but does anyone get the feeling that the main animators at DEEN are Berserker/Saber/Illya whores?

And Matou Shinji still annoys me to no end. Especially his hair.

[vin.dictive]

Originally Posted by MrProphet

1) Why is Archer using scimitars if he is a long-range type of Servant? Why not a bow or some kind of throwing weapon?

Spoiler:

Archer admires those two Chinese swords, Kanshou and Bakuya [Shunjuu' Period of Chinese history (approximately 722 - 481 BC)]. He admires the fact that the blacksmith's wife sacrificed herself to complete them- the drama and heart that is put into the weapon is the most likely why Archer likes using them. IMO, it also symbolised his former determination as a hero (UBW).

Besides, Lancer has fair defense against projectile weapons. It wouldn't be nearly as effective as close combat and the fight is pretty good and eye-catching. Why need to ask? ;p

Archers don't neccessary stick with long range combat. Its just a class name given to them because they have the ability to use long-range techniques that speeds projectiles like an arrow/bullet. (doesn't neccessarily neglect close combat nor need the requirement of a bow; see Gilgamesh's "Gate of Babylon" in episode 1).

2) OK, 2 may be kinda spoilerish, so I'll tag it...

Spoiler:

Honestly, I am coming to this absolutely clueless, but is Shinji the Master of Lancer?

Spoiler:

1. Shinji is the master of Rider when he copied the three tatoos from Sakura onto a book.
2. Kotomine (Fate/stay night) is the master of Lancer.

[Omniscient]

Episode 02 Screencaps and Summary

Spoiler:

Yea, this is what it's all about. Some very intense fighting, especially when it involved Lancer and Shirou. Everything is just perfect and they even threw in Saber at the end to make it even better. Several thumbs up on this episode.

[Takemi_Ikazuchi]

Originally Posted by MrProphet

1) Why is Archer using scimitars if he is a long-range type of Servant? Why not a bow or some kind of throwing weapon?

Unlike some others, I will answer your question correctly.

Just like Lancer, you are supposed to wonder why the hell is he is a tea making, dual knife wielding archer. It just makes no sense!

[Sushi-Y]

Originally Posted by Takemi_Ikazuchi

Just like Lancer, you are supposed to wonder why the hell is he is a tea making, dual knife wielding archer. It just makes no sense!

Kanshou and Bakuya are classified as short swords. As for the fact that he's good at making tea (and general housework), I doubt it means anything to the people here who doesn't know his true identity yet.

Originally Posted by brightman

Hmm... Judging from the game at least , they will be explaining everything in the next few episodes...

That's right, at this rate, that mabo priest should have all the basics explained by episode 3 or 4.

[KJlost]

All I've got to say right now is that Shinji pisses me off more when he's animated, the CCM tard.....


Anyway, I thought it was a nice pacing, though Lancer's voice threw me off for a second. When he's getting excited about fighting, I couldn't help but think of Midou Ban from Getbackers. Same voice actor yes, but the fight-crazed voice is just too overlapping.

[CelestialShadow]

I didn't know lancer's weapon can dematerialise objects. Ooh...snowflakes.

EP2 => Rin for the win! EP2 was quite satisfying to say the least. Pacing was good - didn't feel rushed.

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Why did Rin save Shirou despite not knowing him well?

They left out the clues for this one. Hmm...

[F!reStr!fe]

After being introduced to Fate/Stay Night i just fell in love with it

EP2 looks quite intresting with the move along to the story for some action.

[Sakuya]

Yes, compared to episode 1, episode 2 was an awesome episode. Another week for episode 3, unfortunately. As for the OP, it sounds really nice. I'm probably going to watch the whole OP for all 24 episodes and won't get bored either.

Spoiler:

I'm wondering if that pendant is so important to Rin, why did she leave it behind after healing Emiya?

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Sushi-Y

Spoiler:

Her reason for that was "all the magic power within it is now depleted, therefore, it's nothing but a piece of jewel now, so it's of no use to me anymore"

So, in the anime, Archer

Spoiler:

didn't return it to her..... I wonder how they will go around that loophole. There's also the submission Command Mantra.

And what that really how they call it? I thought that the 5 were sorcerers/sorceress while those like Rin were mages. I agree with Shirou as a magic user though.

[Paracelsus]

Otherwise, Saber's presence would be meaningless, since her task is to guard that a** =/

Oh btw, Episode 02 has been aired. Pure ownage. This is what i want from an anime.

[Shiroth]

I was very impressed by episode 02 - i mainly knew what was going to happen but actually getting to see it was amazing in its self.

Spoiler:

I was happy as hell when Saber appeared, and in a pretty amazing appearance to, hope to see more beautiful scenes like that - also wished that Lancer's & Archer's fight could have gone on a lil' longer.. but its doesl eave you wanting more, which i do love the feeling of.

This anime is fastly turning into one of my fav's.. and just after two episode too! >.<