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tatami · 2009-02-08, 17:34

still doesnt understand the point.

Its only logical to blow them away and get going.

what you say is only a fantasy just to drag a fight or even create a fight.

If team gai crosses roads wth pain the most logical way to get rid of them is to blow them away in a split second and move on while they are immobilised and stupified.

as long as naruto is with absorbing pains possesion god pain is the ultimate and quickest defence for them

and you just ignore the part that god pain just cannot contain naruto on his own without absorbing pain.

if you want to see a fight then go on dream about it but the LOGICAL way is what I ve said...

and if blowing away wont work to loose them then only god realm can fight with team gai while absorbing one holds naruto to prevent him taking action...

so all the risks there is ots only natural to awoid a fight which makes my point clear....

BLOW THEM AWAY...

and if they catch up anytime soon them blow them again...

Ero-Senn1n · 2009-02-08, 20:29

It's a bit disappointing that Pain never used genjutsu or elemental jutsu. The rinnegan is supposed to know all jutsu, so the absence of genjutsu is odd. Also Nagato supposedly learned to use all elements, so why he never uses them? I guess Yahiko Pain's power is supposed to be an elemental jutsu, the force of attraction and the opposite can be regarded as a kind of a super-elemental jutsu, also the rain jutsu is a super-water jutsu. Maybe the current 6 bodies are not fit for genjutsu, that would also mean if he gets another 6 bodies he would maybe use genjutsu too. But i guess the most likely explanation is that Kishimoto didn't want to overpower Pain so much since the final villain is supposed to be Madara

Justin Kim · 2009-02-08, 21:11

I agree, it's three- sided kinda. Either Naruto is gg'ed, or once again goes beserk with the Kyuubi's power (Maybe he can control it this time), or that one kage bunshin is his saviour. But after all these are my predictions=/

Slayerx · 2009-02-08, 21:16

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Originally Posted by Ero-Senn1n

It's a bit disappointing that Pain never used genjutsu or elemental jutsu. The rinnegan is supposed to know all jutsu, so the absence of genjutsu is odd. Also Nagato supposedly learned to use all elements, so why he never uses them? I guess Yahiko Pain's power is supposed to be an elemental jutsu, the force of attraction and the opposite can be regarded as a kind of a super-elemental jutsu, also the rain jutsu is a super-water jutsu. Maybe the current 6 bodies are not fit for genjutsu, that would also mean if he gets another 6 bodies he would maybe use genjutsu too. But i guess the most likely explanation is that Kishimoto didn't want to overpower Pain so much since the final villain is supposed to be Madara

Actually i would say that human realm's powers look like they are genjutsu... probing the enemies mind and what not

As for the elements... well, Nagato has yet to make an appearance and as such kishi does need to save something for him to do...

Justin Kim · 2009-02-08, 21:20

Lol, I think Pain really doesn't need a genjutsu, when he can just blow anything away. Pain being able to use the force of attraction and repulsion is way enough for any ninja to handle. Let alone his "gravitational powers."

randomness · 2009-02-08, 21:37

I think there r 2 possibilities:

a) Pein dies suddenly since his life span was shortened after he used shinra tensei to blew up half of konoha

b) kyuubi comes out

astayanax · 2009-02-08, 22:03

I believe Pein can use Genjutsus; but when you think about it, it makes little sense as it doesn't flow very well with his fighting style.

Justin Kim · 2009-02-08, 22:08

Yeah im pretty sure he can, it's just that he really doesn't need it, and kinda cramps his overall style. I mean after all if Pain has these gravitational powers, what's the use of genjutsu when you can just crush your opponent to the ground from far away. Or just stay back, and watch your realms do all the fighting for you=/

Sazelyt · 2009-02-08, 23:14

I wonder how much time Pain requires to replenish the lost bodies. As long as he has Konan there, summoning the new bodies to the fighting scene should be easy. Even though he can repair the damaged bodies, he should have enough bodies in his storage to use in situations like this. I am thinking maybe something within the bodies needs to be destroyed first to activate the new bodies, or he needs to lose connection with a body for some time to render it both useless and non-interfering.

If any of those are possible, we may get to see that happening during this fight. Or at least a mention of why that may not be possible.

Mr. Johnny 5 · 2009-02-09, 04:59

I thought of a realistic and also good scenario..

Spoiler for after Naruto gets captured:

Josh Uzumaki · 2009-02-09, 07:03

i would like it to be that hte frog genjutsu is already in place, and its going to snap back to reality with a fist in to god peins face =D awesome or waht. but if god pein does get hit or damaged nagato will bring them back, or come to the fight himself, having a shed load of jutsu as someone said he would

aliasxn · 2009-02-09, 08:02

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Originally Posted by Mr. Johnny 5

I thought of a realistic and also good scenario..

Spoiler for after Naruto gets captured:

Naruto doesn't have to win, but the fight must end in a way that makes him look good. Most importantly, he must get out of this with his own strength, because if all Pein had to do to knock him out was stretch his arm then Naruto is not so impressive anymore. And it'd be nice to see one or two expressions of fear from Mr. God, because so far he is still has that look on his face like he could kill him anytime, which is kind of annoying. It's hard to gauge the hero's power if the bad guy didn't even raise an eyebrow yet... So, in short, Naruto must get a gigantic rep+ from Akatsuki (from Konoha too, but especially Akatsuki), instead of passing out and getting rescued.

tatami · 2009-02-09, 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Johnny 5

I thought of a realistic and also good scenario..

Spoiler for after Naruto gets captured:

"Meanwhile...Sasuke's group gets ordered by Zetsu to prepare to seal the Kyuubi."

9 tails can not be sealed before 8 tails

Hiking_Bear · 2009-02-09, 10:17

Maybe it's okay to seal the Kyuubi now, because it's not the full Kyuubi. Akatsuki will have to discover eventually that only half of the Kyuubi is sealed within Naruto. The other half was sealed inside the Death God by Shiki Fuujin.

naruske · 2009-02-09, 10:30

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Originally Posted by Hiking_Bear

Maybe it's okay to seal the Kyuubi now, because it's not the full Kyuubi. Akatsuki will have to discover eventually that only half of the Kyuubi is sealed within Naruto. The other half was sealed inside the Death God by Shiki Fuujin.

yea you're so smart

X_Danny_X · 2009-02-09, 12:05

can someone help me understand this. Pain is supposed to see Chakara, so how did Naruto manage to hit Pain during the smoke attack? Pain supposed to see through all this since he sees the chakara and see the attack the coming. Pain should of had no problems avoiding it but got hit.

Kafriel · 2009-02-09, 12:11

Natural energy is of a different kind I guess...

Kafriel · 2009-02-09, 12:42

He has the Rinnegan, ultimate eye technique,so~

Cub-Sama · 2009-02-09, 12:52

Also he was able to see through the barrier around Konoha like it was nothing, also I dont want Pain to lose this fight because of all the hype, I want him to come out slightly scarred but ego and personality intact, because if he loses now I will be angry because Naruto is just doing the same old rasengan just with more oomph.

Sabaku Kyu · 2009-02-09, 13:08

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Originally Posted by X_Danny_X

can someone help me understand this. Pain is supposed to see Chakara, so how did Naruto manage to hit Pain during the smoke attack? Pain supposed to see through all this since he sees the chakara and see the attack the coming. Pain should of had no problems avoiding it but got hit.

Being able to see chakra doesn't mean being able to see through everything. Sharingan can see chakra yet Kakashi couldn't see through Zabuza's mist. Naruto just used the smoke bombs to hide the henge from Pein. He was able to land the hit because he managed to distract Pein with FRS and get one of his clones out Pein's line of sight by going above him, not because the smoke bomb hid the attack.

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astayanax Conspiracy Theorist Join Date: Dec 2005	I believe Pein can use Genjutsus; but when you think about it, it makes little sense as it doesn't flow very well with his fighting style. __________________ Your signature was deleted by a mod because it exceeded the size limit as was requested in our forum rules. Please take a look at it.

2009-02-09, 04:59	Link #210
Mr. Johnny 5 Konoha's ANBU Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 38	I thought of a realistic and also good scenario.. Spoiler for after Naruto gets captured: Pain leaves with Naruto...Hinata cant bear to watch anymore and wants to stop him...however Sakura stops her and will tell her to go with a bigger group and to heal Shikamaru.. Konoha Group 1# is going to be: Ino, Chouji, Shikamaru, Hinata, Shino, Sakura, Kiba..the rest stays behind. Group 1# resumes the chase. Pain gets spotted by Neji... and they start to chase Pain. Konoha Group 2# is also chasing him. At Konoha unexpected guests arrive.. at the feet of Konoha's Hokage Tsunade. Everyone around her is shocked.. Meanwhile...Sasuke's group gets ordered by Zetsu to prepare to seal the Kyuubi. Sasuke's loyalty gets tested..and he's already on fire after he messed up once (8 tailed). Pain arrives... and through a certain jutsu... Pain allows team Hawk to drain out the Kyuubi.. With Pain, Konan, Zetsu, Madara, Kisame there and team Hawk on the finger tops it makes 8 people. The meeting gets interupted by Konoha! Group 1 and 2 have regrouped and are ready for battle. Team Hawk is to deal with them...this shocks everyone.. to see Sasuke helping them. Konoha loses the battle... Sand arrives... Gaara, Kankuro, Temari along with Sand's shinobi. Gaara crushes the entrance... and moves forward... Sasuke and Neji finally get their stand off. Gaara outnumbered...gets another ally helping him...who appears behind him... Killerbee __________________

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X_Danny_X Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007	can someone help me understand this. Pain is supposed to see Chakara, so how did Naruto manage to hit Pain during the smoke attack? Pain supposed to see through all this since he sees the chakara and see the attack the coming. Pain should of had no problems avoiding it but got hit. __________________

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Cub-Sama Member of DOLLARS Artist Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: In the magical land of Moonswell pass Age: 28	Also he was able to see through the barrier around Konoha like it was nothing, also I dont want Pain to lose this fight because of all the hype, I want him to come out slightly scarred but ego and personality intact, because if he loses now I will be angry because Naruto is just doing the same old rasengan just with more oomph. __________________ We are DOLLARS, credit for sig goes to CMHerrera-chan

2009-02-08, 17:34	Link #201
tatami back in black Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Turkey Age: 41	still doesnt understand the point. Its only logical to blow them away and get going. what you say is only a fantasy just to drag a fight or even create a fight. If team gai crosses roads wth pain the most logical way to get rid of them is to blow them away in a split second and move on while they are immobilised and stupified. as long as naruto is with absorbing pains possesion god pain is the ultimate and quickest defence for them and you just ignore the part that god pain just cannot contain naruto on his own without absorbing pain. if you want to see a fight then go on dream about it but the LOGICAL way is what I ve said... and if blowing away wont work to loose them then only god realm can fight with team gai while absorbing one holds naruto to prevent him taking action... so all the risks there is ots only natural to awoid a fight which makes my point clear.... BLOW THEM AWAY... and if they catch up anytime soon them blow them again...

2009-02-08, 20:29	Link #202
Ero-Senn1n Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hidden Village of Sake	It's a bit disappointing that Pain never used genjutsu or elemental jutsu. The rinnegan is supposed to know all jutsu, so the absence of genjutsu is odd. Also Nagato supposedly learned to use all elements, so why he never uses them? I guess Yahiko Pain's power is supposed to be an elemental jutsu, the force of attraction and the opposite can be regarded as a kind of a super-elemental jutsu, also the rain jutsu is a super-water jutsu. Maybe the current 6 bodies are not fit for genjutsu, that would also mean if he gets another 6 bodies he would maybe use genjutsu too. But i guess the most likely explanation is that Kishimoto didn't want to overpower Pain so much since the final villain is supposed to be Madara

2009-02-08, 21:11	Link #203
Justin Kim Senior Member Artist Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, California	I agree, it's three- sided kinda. Either Naruto is gg'ed, or once again goes beserk with the Kyuubi's power (Maybe he can control it this time), or that one kage bunshin is his saviour. But after all these are my predictions=/

2009-02-08, 21:20	Link #205
Justin Kim Senior Member Artist Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, California	Lol, I think Pain really doesn't need a genjutsu, when he can just blow anything away. Pain being able to use the force of attraction and repulsion is way enough for any ninja to handle. Let alone his "gravitational powers."

2009-02-08, 21:37	Link #206
randomness Member Join Date: Jan 2009	I think there r 2 possibilities: a) Pein dies suddenly since his life span was shortened after he used shinra tensei to blew up half of konoha b) kyuubi comes out

2009-02-08, 22:08	Link #208
Justin Kim Senior Member Artist Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, California	Yeah im pretty sure he can, it's just that he really doesn't need it, and kinda cramps his overall style. I mean after all if Pain has these gravitational powers, what's the use of genjutsu when you can just crush your opponent to the ground from far away. Or just stay back, and watch your realms do all the fighting for you=/

2009-02-08, 23:14	Link #209
Sazelyt Μ ε r c ü r υ Join Date: Jun 2004	I wonder how much time Pain requires to replenish the lost bodies. As long as he has Konan there, summoning the new bodies to the fighting scene should be easy. Even though he can repair the damaged bodies, he should have enough bodies in his storage to use in situations like this. I am thinking maybe something within the bodies needs to be destroyed first to activate the new bodies, or he needs to lose connection with a body for some time to render it both useless and non-interfering. If any of those are possible, we may get to see that happening during this fight. Or at least a mention of why that may not be possible.

2009-02-09, 07:03	Link #211
Josh Uzumaki Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: lytham	i would like it to be that hte frog genjutsu is already in place, and its going to snap back to reality with a fist in to god peins face =D awesome or waht. but if god pein does get hit or damaged nagato will bring them back, or come to the fight himself, having a shed load of jutsu as someone said he would

2009-02-09, 10:17	Link #214
Hiking_Bear Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	Maybe it's okay to seal the Kyuubi now, because it's not the full Kyuubi. Akatsuki will have to discover eventually that only half of the Kyuubi is sealed within Naruto. The other half was sealed inside the Death God by Shiki Fuujin.

2009-02-09, 12:11	Link #217
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	Natural energy is of a different kind I guess...

2009-02-09, 12:42	Link #218
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	He has the Rinnegan, ultimate eye technique,so~