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Old 2014-08-21, 09:09   Link #6141
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What.

Her being in love with Tatsumi lead directly to her being able to stop time. Not exactly a weakening factor
I'm not talking about physical prowess. (But that's also my point.)

I'm talking about emotional vulnerability. All this talk about mushy stuff when she's around him, and how easily affected she's become by him.
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Old 2014-08-21, 09:15   Link #6142
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If I recall right, wasn't the PM worried about this? You know, when Esdeath told him her desire to try "love".
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Old 2014-08-21, 09:18   Link #6143
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If I recall right, wasn't the PM worried about this? You know, when Esdeath told him her desire to try "love".
I'm not sure if he was worried at the time or if it was just a shock from the sudden revelation.

I just thought about this,
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Old 2014-08-21, 09:19   Link #6144
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Now this chapter is why I said I care about Lubbock few pages back . Good job dude, even though you haven’t avoid your death flag yet. But hey, nobody not named Akame & Tatsumi (and Esdeath?) will be able to avoid death-flag as long as this manga continues anyway .

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Old 2014-08-21, 10:22   Link #6145
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Full raw isn't even out yet, but I'm still licking my lips with the recent events
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Old 2014-08-21, 10:23   Link #6146
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You did great Lubbock. Kept on proving yourself to be a true badass and managed to avoid the death flag.
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Old 2014-08-21, 10:26   Link #6147
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You did great Lubbock. Kept on proving yourself to be a true badass and managed to avoid the death flag.
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Old 2014-08-21, 10:30   Link #6148
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Meh , Rabac just delayed the inevitable that is his death flag :P

If he truly goes to rescue Tatsumi , then he will find an Esdeath on the rampage :P .
Which one you mean? Rabbac always juggle with five or six everywhere he goes while pawning enemies left and right. My first reaction on him when he was introduced was: "This guy gonna die" and I didn't even knew how mean is this manga to it's characters by that time yet.

But yeah Rabbacs death is inevitable, that much I have to admit. It's very unfortunate but he will make his grandchildren and great-grandchildren very sad when it happen
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Old 2014-08-21, 10:34   Link #6149
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^ Gotta love that sarcasm of yours ^^
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Old 2014-08-21, 10:41   Link #6150
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Old 2014-08-21, 10:49   Link #6151
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Damn, looks like I missed spoiler pics before they were removed. Oh well. Looks like Lubbock is the man in this upcoming chapter

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I'm not sure if he was worried at the time or if it was just a shock from the sudden revelation.

I just thought about this,
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Maybe it'll push her to think about joining forces with Tatsumi (she might not need the help, but Wave and Kurome probably will), though I'm sure the rest of Night Raid won't be happy about it
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Old 2014-08-21, 10:57   Link #6152
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Damn, looks like I missed spoiler pics before they were removed. Oh well. Looks like Lubbock is the man in this upcoming chapter



Maybe it'll push her to think about joining forces with Tatsumi (she might not need the help, but Wave and Kurome probably will), though I'm sure the rest of Night Raid won't be happy about it
It's kind of like this. I don't believe Esdeath will have a change of heart for NR. But I do believe her loyalty towards Tatsumi (at this point) is genuine and her promise to protect him holds account. If the PM decides to execute Tatsumi for being a threat, would Esdeath stand her ground and fight against the entire Empire for him? She developed a dangerous Teigu technique because of him, and she makes no hesitation to kill anyone who comes near harming Tatsumi.
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Old 2014-08-21, 11:03   Link #6153
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crunchytaco@ So that's why you thought that.

As for what Esdeath would do if the Pm decides to kill Tatsumi......I'm pretty sure that she would go against him and the whole Empire. But who knows? We still need to see her reaction after what he told her in the last chapter.
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Old 2014-08-21, 11:05   Link #6154
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I still doubt the PM would be willing to turn on Esdeath, she is one of the strongest warriors and leaders in the entire Empire, he may start looking for a way to keep her in line but I doubt he will do anything that would turn her against the Empire.

Also Budou made it clear that he will kill the PM once the war is over, so he needs someone like Esdeath around to deal with him when the time comes.
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Old 2014-08-21, 11:24   Link #6155
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We still need to see her reaction after what he told her in the last chapter.
That is quite true. As always, I'm just going with whatever we have at the moment. A theorist never regrets changing when new evidence is presented .


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I still doubt the PM would be willing to turn on Esdeath, she is one of the strongest warriors and leaders in the entire Empire, he may start looking for a way to keep her in line but I doubt he will do anything that would turn her against the Empire.

Also Budou made it clear that he will kill the PM once the war is over, so he needs someone like Esdeath around to deal with him when the time comes.
What happens though, when Tatsumi adamantly refuses to join the Empire and continues plotting for the PM's head? A conflict of interest.

Before, no one knew Tatsumi's identity. Now both Esdeath and the PM knows.
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Old 2014-08-21, 11:29   Link #6156
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That is quite true. As always, I'm just going with whatever we have at the moment.




What happens though, when Tatsumi adamantly refuses to join the Empire and continues plotting for the PM's head? A conflict of interest.

Before, no one knew Tatsumi's identity. Now both Esdeath and the PM knows.
The PM is as corrupt as they come so the law doesn't matter at all to him, as for Tatsumi, Esdeath knew he was sympathetic to the Revolution and wanted to control him.

The PM also needs Esdeath and Esdeath needs him in order to kill all she wants.

I have doubts about them turning on each other, as Tatsumi can't really do much with Esdeath watching his every move and controlling him, remember that he is still no match for her and she can freeze time.

As long as she has him in her grip the PM is in no danger.

Edit: Although it occurs to me that Tatsumi will eventually escape somehow so they may be more focused on catching him first and it may turn into a whoever gets him has a powerful bargaining chip against Esdeath.

Which will make Tatsumi a high priority capture.
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Old 2014-08-21, 11:35   Link #6157
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That is quite true. As always, I'm just going with whatever we have at the moment. A theorist never regrets changing when new evidence is presented .
True. Plus is fun to talk about what will happen.

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The PM is as corrupt as they come so the law doesn't matter at all to him, as for Tatsumi, Esdeath knew he was sympathetic to the Revolution and wanted to control him.

The PM also needs Esdeath and Esdeath needs him in order to kill all she wants.

I have doubts about them turning on each other, as Tatsumi can't really do much with Esdeath watching his every move and controlling him, remember that he is still no match for her and she can freeze time.

As long as she has him in her grip the PM is in no danger.

Edit: Although it occurs to me that Tatsumi will eventually escape somehow so they may be more focused on catching him first and it may turn into a whoever gets him has a powerful bargaining chip against Esdeath.

Which will make Tatsumi a high priority capture.
I don't thought about this.

You made some really good points.

Although, I do wonder if she still intend to train him.
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Old 2014-08-21, 12:06   Link #6158
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Lubbock truly is top of the class when it comes to playing dead and acting, .
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Old 2014-08-21, 12:07   Link #6159
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Edit: Although it occurs to me that Tatsumi will eventually escape somehow so they may be more focused on catching him first and it may turn into a whoever gets him has a powerful bargaining chip against Esdeath.

Which will make Tatsumi a high priority capture.
You are finally seeing my point . This is an alternative to issuing a command to execute him.

Though if he does get captured again, I would literally /facepalm. He's turned from hero into a damsel in distress.

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Lubbock truly is top of the class when it comes to playing dead and acting, .
Next chapter, Lubock runs around a corner and impales himself on Esdeath's sword. His cool factor drops dramatically.
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Old 2014-08-21, 12:38   Link #6160
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Right after Esdeath conviced Tatsumi, that she is best girl and swear never kill again.

Her love points drops dramatically too.
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