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Old 2015-03-09, 16:11   Link #41
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Holy crap! It was Yuutousei!

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Yen Press confirmed with ANN on Monday that the manga it has licensed is Mahōka Kōkō no Yūtōsei (The honour at magic high school). The spinoff of Tsutomu Satou's Irregular at Magic High School (Mahōka Kōkō no Rettōsei) light novel tells the story from Miyuki's perspective.
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Old 2015-03-09, 16:17   Link #42
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Holy crap! It was Yuutousei!
We are safe or it's misspell? Hope we are safe

upd:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...s-manga/.85777

nope, we are not T_T
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Old 2015-03-09, 16:21   Link #43
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Holy crap! It was Yuutousei!
No Rettousei?
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Old 2015-03-09, 16:24   Link #44
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He is right, mahouka has a lot more detractors than it has fans in the west. It is wildly popular in Japan and the SAO crowd were very quick to jump on it here when the anime started, but most of them hated it and left. The first volume's themes ran in stark contrast to their own liberal ideologies, in particular the thing about preference of magic-centered clubs not being discrimination, but rather just correct allocation of resources in a meritocracy. Utilitarianism is tantamount to satanism to these people.
Where are you getting this info about the series being hated from? And why did you attribute it to a conflict in ideology?
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Old 2015-03-09, 16:24   Link #45
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They licensed both. A manga license is not really a problem anyway.
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Old 2015-03-09, 16:25   Link #46
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If I recall, the novels indicate that there's more magicians in the USNA, hence the superior power of the USNA. Also, it's mentioned that the USNA has the edge technologically and that magic was first acknowledged there. The problem in the USNA (and spreading to Japan) is that of anti-Magic sentiment... which is being fomented by those whose interests are best served by the weakening of the USNA and Japan.

So, it's not as if there is no rhyme or reason to the geopolitical situation. The novel sets up the world as one where there are no strong alliances. Each country is only looking after its own interests. Where they coincide there is cooperation, and where they conflict, there is trouble.

Yes, you can substitute Magic for money (or talent) and come away with Tatsuya as the unapologetic capitalist (or 'meritocrat') in the Enrollment Arc. He is both a victim and a beneficiary of the system. He prefers and is protecting Miyuki's peaceful life, but he is also a pragmatist when it comes to violence/war. He is against Magicians being tools for war, but he is not against Magic being used for war.
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Old 2015-03-09, 16:47   Link #47
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Where are you getting this info about the series being hated from? And why did you attribute it to a conflict in ideology?
Go check out the communities. I've been paying attention to mahouka on reddit, MAL, 4chan and so on. You do have a loyal core fanbase, but you also have an army of ironic shitposters of the "onii-sama jesus" variety and "so bad it's good"-crew. Then you have straight up communists calling Tatsuya John Galt. Though it seems the moderators of MAL have stepped up. Can't seem to find a certain thread.
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Old 2015-03-09, 16:59   Link #48
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It's hard to see Tatsuya truly as John Galt. He's more like the Rickover of nuclear power. Tatsuya's goal is to make Magic an essential part of the economy (particularly a source of clean, non-nuclear power), while enabling regular people the ability to use magic-powered devices. Of course, magicians are essential to the scheme, but they move from being weapons to being power generators. It's akin to nuclear power being used for power generation and not just warfare.
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Old 2015-03-09, 17:13   Link #49
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Miyuki explained it perfectly in yuutosei. Basically Tatsuya believes that the clubs were using "equality" as an excuse to complain about their lack of results. And to be frank he had a very good point, no one gives a damn how good you are at football in a military academy. Mibu and co were in the wrong. Summarized he says that equality of opportunity does not equate to equality of outcome, the latter is the core cause of "progressivism".
This little pearl of wisdom rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
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Old 2015-03-09, 17:46   Link #50
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As Tatsuya put it: "If someone isn't talented enough in modern magic, then use some other method to make up the difference.
Because that is possible, then they can objectively make an assessment as a third party.
If that's not possible... Then it's not surprising for them to sink into that delicious fantasy called 'equality'. Even knowing that it's all an illusion in the end."

Because there is no such thing as true equality, except perhaps in death. Moreover, while the talented do have privileges, there is always a price. In MKnR, the very talented don't have fairy tale lives due to their talent. As Shizuku's mother put it, "For Magicians, being superlatively talented is not a sign of happiness. Instead, happiness recedes from them. Thankfully, Shizuku stopped at the ledge of talent, but if she draws too close to an incredibly talented Magician, then she may be drawn into the misfortune that is drawn to those of overwhelming power." Mayumi is perhaps a subtle example of this. Because of her talent and lineage, she is basically breeding stock and doesn't have any expectation of happiness or love from whatever marriage is arranged for her. Talent is unequally distributed and so is happiness/unhappiness.
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Old 2015-03-09, 17:50   Link #51
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I just need to ask, does Yen Press have overseas services and How much will the novel cost with the overseas delivery...

I have no problems spending at most 40 to 100 dollars for the novel...And I'm from the Philippines....
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Old 2015-03-09, 18:03   Link #52
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I just need to ask, does Yen Press have overseas services and How much will the novel cost with the overseas delivery...

I have no problems spending at most 40 to 100 dollars for the novel...And I'm from the Philippines....
Are you talking USD or a different currency?
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Old 2015-03-09, 18:16   Link #53
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Are you talking USD or a different currency?
USD....The average worth of the dollar in the Philippines hovers between 40 - 60 Php...I don;t mind spending 6,000php monthly or yearly for Mahouka
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Old 2015-03-09, 18:25   Link #54
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I'm okay with the mangas getting licensed because a volume isn't a lot to wait for nor do they contain much. Especially yuutousei which doesn't have a dedicated scanlating group but the wait for the novels are gonna hurt a lot.
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Old 2015-03-09, 18:30   Link #55
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Shipping probably won't exceed $5 per book and Yen Press usually charges less than $15 per book (actual prices on Amazon are lower). So figure about $20 maximum per book. That's about 890 pesos per book. If Yen Press follows the release schedule of High School DxD, expect one book every three months or so. That's four books per year, four years to catch up to book 16 (out in May), and 6+ years to finish the series (assuming 24 books or so).
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Old 2015-03-09, 18:30   Link #56
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I have new information regarding the use of translated quotes used to support discussion points.

You may use translated quotes in your discussion posts under these conditions.

1) The quote must be used to support your post. It can't be the reason for the quote. (If you've ever had to write a school essay that provides quotes to support your essay arguments, you'll have a good idea of what I'm talking about.)

2) The quote should be obviously related to your overall point. If your quote supports your point in the first paragraph, talks about something else for a few paragraphs, then goes back to supporting your point, edit the quote to only the relevant parts.

3) Do not say where you got your quote from. You can mention that the quote is from volume xx but don't say where you got the translation from. If someone asks you where it came, don't answer.

4) The quote shouldn't be too long.
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Old 2015-03-09, 18:38   Link #57
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Shipping probably won't exceed $5 per book and Yen Press usually charges less than $15 per book (actual prices on Amazon are lower). So figure about $20 maximum per book. That's about 890 pesos per book. If Yen Press follows the release schedule of High School DxD, expect one book every three months or so. That's four books per year, four years to catch up to book 16 (out in May), and 6+ years to finish the series (assuming 24 books or so).
Is bakatsuki not enough? why would you need yen press? can anyone tell me!!
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Old 2015-03-09, 18:42   Link #58
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Well, seems like atleast we can discuss about Mahouka.

But this worries me, who will judge the comments based on this point?

"1) The quote must be used to support your post. It can't be the reason for the quote. (If you've ever had to write a school essay that provides quotes to support your essay arguments, you'll have a good idea of what I'm talking about)."
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Old 2015-03-09, 18:43   Link #59
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Barring Yen Press deciding to cancel licensing, don't expect Baka-Tsuki to have Mahouka for much longer.
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Old 2015-03-09, 18:43   Link #60
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So pretty much at this point we have to pray that True alchemist will be nice enough to provide a review for 16 or it's going to be 4 years or so before we find out what the end teaser of 15 actually means.
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