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Old 2017-11-15, 07:53   Link #341
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... They're going to eat the real Marcille, aren't they?
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Old 2017-11-15, 09:53   Link #342
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With Marcille, wouldn't performing magic prove who's the real one?
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Old 2017-11-15, 12:31   Link #343
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I think shapeshifters are kind of able to use magic too, like it is part of their nature to change accordingly to the thoughts of the people around them. If they were just changing after looking I'd say it is their body but if they can copy clothes and metal and weapons and all that why should they not be able to copy magic?
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Old 2017-11-15, 16:30   Link #344
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I think shapeshifters are kind of able to use magic too, like it is part of their nature to change accordingly to the thoughts of the people around them. If they were just changing after looking I'd say it is their body but if they can copy clothes and metal and weapons and all that why should they not be able to copy magic?
Because they're based on the thoughts of people other than the ones they copy. Here, Marcille's copies are based on the thoughts of people who don't know magic, so the copies don't either. Except maybe Laius', who might be able to manage the simplest spells, because Marcille's been trying to dual class him.
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Old 2017-11-17, 15:24   Link #345
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Man, I meant to catch the new chapter earlier, but I was busy at the time. Anyway, this sure is an amusing situation the party got themselves caught in. Still, despite having to depend on Laius' powers of observation, I don't think it's gonna be that bad, actually. If anything, asking the shapeshifters to cook a meal may be the best way to identify who's a fake. After all, Senshi is the expert in cooking monsters, so I'd think that any of the other members who turn out to be a little too good in serving up tasty dungeon creatures are practically guaranteed to be fakes, if you ask me....
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Old 2017-11-17, 22:51   Link #346
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For the new chapter with shapeshifters:

They eliminated all the fake Laius:
Chilchak-Laius = Giant Liaus
Marcille-Liaus = "I must consume"
Senshi-Laius = Dazed Liaus

They eliminated two fake Marcille:
Chilchak-Marcille = Nice hair, but fake spell book (the time reversal spell is a callback to chapter 31 when Chilchak told Marcille not to reverse time).
Senshi-Marcille = Witch Marcille

That leaves the Laius-Marcille, which makes sense because Laius was learning magic from Marcille, so he'd know her spellbook. We're left with:
Rare Hairstyle Marcille
Let her hair down Marcille

Either Laius didn't pay attention to her hair and so gave her a generic hair down style, or he actually remembered the rare hairstyle and Marcille did let her hair down because the blizzard was cold. I'm actually having a hard time calling this one correctly.

They eliminated two fake Chilchaks:
Laius-Chilchak = Scarf wearing Chilchak
Marcille?-Chilchak = improper lockpicks Chilchak

I'm not certain, but I think Chilchak the bad lockpicks came from Marcille. Marcille has known Chilchak longer, but Senshi studied a bit with Chilchak. And both Laius and Senshi used Chichak's lockpicks to eat the Mimic with. It looked like Marcille did not.

Not sure how to differentiate the remaining Chilchaks (the single shot of them after removing the other two isn't a good angle for comparisons). However, I'm betting the shorter, more childlike Chichak is the fake Senshi-Chilchak.

They eliminated two fake Senshis:
Laius-Senshi = Lacked holes in his helmet
Marcille?-Senshi = wrong spatula shape

I guessing it was Marcille who got the shape of Senshi's spatula wrong, since she has paid the least attention to the cooking.

It's obvious that the more chiseled nose Senshi is the fake. Must be Chilchak's Senshi. Not sure how it will be differentiated in story though.
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