Lucky Star (Generic Discussion thread)

[Nemo_N]

Originally Posted by kj1980

... My personal rave would by listening to one of the girls sing the OP to the Uchuu Keiji series like Gyaban wwww...

I'm betting on classic anime songs; not that I know many . Or maybe more recent ones: Cruel Angel Thesis, Dota Bata Angel Loop (hey, I can dream) or even Hare Hare Yukai; since Konata is supposed to be a hardcore otaku, it would be weird if she didn't sing it .

Of course, assuming they will make this karaoke ending every episode.

[Daniel E.]

Originally Posted by CrowKenobi

Just some random screen grabs from the open...

Cute girls with glasses FTW.

She is the one that looks the most moe to me right now.

Her name is Miyuki, right?

[Mirrinus]

Originally Posted by kj1980

By the way, how many of you here actually read the manga by Yoshimizu Kagami? There's a whole lot of difference in knowing the original manga and knowing what to expect from the anime - and in this case KyoAni did a good adaptation of bringing out the subtleness from the manga.

The yuru~i and mata~ri (very loose and laid back) -ness that was as described and marketed on the manga was exactly that - the anime itself was yuru~i and mata~ri wwww.

Well, except for the OP and the spurt-my-milk-from-my-mouth laughter of selecting Kyodain for the ED wwww I wonder if they'll continue to have each of the girls sing some otaku-ish theme song at every ED from now on? My personal rave would by listening to one of the girls sing the OP to the Uchuu Keiji series like Gyaban wwww


Plus, they've managed to add in some more expansions to some of the neta (the punchlines?) with "how to eat a puff cream" "how to eat the strawberry shortcake" "how do you eat a curry rice" etc. Especially the curry rice made me chuckle as I've never heard of putting mayo into curry or on an oyako-don. (note to self: must try that sometime!)

Many of these are a subtle jokes would be difficult for a non-Japanese person to understand. Some examples:

Konata adds sauce to curry, whereas Tsukasa adds mayo
Reference to curry rice being a favorite dish among the majority of Japanese households, and each household has different ways of eating and "tasting it up" with various secret recipes. By the way, my household way is adding in slices of apples and instant coffee before adding in the rou.

Kagami reading a newspaper on recent weirdos
Confinement kidnappings were heavily put on the news in Japan in which they all happen to be weirdos which further put demise to the otaku stereotype that we are all losers. But, what Konata says is partly true - some idiots can't distinguish what's real and what's not.

Thanks, I always find your explanations really helpful. ^_^

I agree with you in that those who have actually seen the original source material (such as myself) probably wouldn't have had unreasonable expectations, and thus were able to better enjoy the show for what it is, not what Kyoto Animation's past works have been. I got the same feeling from watching this that I get when I see an episode of Azumanga Daioh. AzuDai doesn't really make me laugh out loud, but I easily go through the whole episode with a smile on my face, as I can't help but smile at it. So long as Lucky☆Star accomplishes that, I'll be happy. It probably won't end up as my favorite anime or anything, but quite frankly I'm not really all that interested in this season's new shows anyway (I can't help it, I just don't appreciate mecha or romantic comedies all that much...), so I'll still be following this (and Hayate, I guess).

[Lunacy]

I personally enjoyed the food bit, especially, about chococorone... I used to eat that as a child and wondered the same thing: "which is is the head and which side should I eat from?". And I have always referred to chococorone as mothra, larvae form, so, I am more than fascinated with Konata since we are identical.

As for curry, I like to put scrambled egg over mine.. weird, I know.

As for the ED, it would be interesting to hear random tokusatsu songs.

[Level E]

Originally Posted by kj1980

By the way, how many of you here actually read the manga by Yoshimizu Kagami?

I do and I love it

I thought the anime was a good adaption and the ongoing talk about ways to eat various pastry an interesting add-on... But I just can't wait for Izumi Papa and Tanaka Mama to make the scene.

Heh, they even gave color to Minoru-kun.

BTW is Sauce = Oyster or Tonkatsu?

Curry Recipe here
Adding milk, apple and honey

Also in the OP
何か分　何勝てる　愛してる　アレ１個が違ってるんるん
悩みん坊来い　鉄棒　おいしん棒　いい加減にしなさい！

Is this some type of word game? アレ１個が違ってるんるん
I don't get the reference there...

[~Tsukuyomi]

Originally Posted by Skane

The OP sounds downright creepy at 50% speed.

I bear no responsibility for incurred nightmares.

Cheers.

Wow, its sound so demonic... I like it... The dance looks like something voodo also...

On the topic of curry, I like to have in on rice AND noodles and hot sauce...

On another topic, I would like an avatar request where Konata repeatedly punches the foreigner... Just have it regularly punch it... Don't really have to get all of Mr. Foreigner...

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Well, there have been over 5000 posts in the Lucky Star threads on 2channel in the past 17 hours or so, and the haters and the unconvinced appear to be running out of steam. Comments are falling into rough parity, or even slightly pro. For a while there, it looked like mass hysteria of a similar but opposite kind to the SHnY posts last year. I wonder if it's the same people.

I am struck that the anti-Hirano Aya feeling does not seem that strong. There were negative comments, but surprisingly few, considering that there is over a thread of anti-Aya posts on 2channel for every ten of the main Aya threads, and she has the second-highest number of anti- threads of any female seiyuu (after Mizuki Nana). Some people prefaced their remarks with: "I hate Hirano, but..." A couple of people said that they were uneasy about her in the role but she was good. People also had few complaints about the other seiyuu, despite the fact that 2channel is generally highly suspicious of inexperienced seiyuu.

I didn't read everything, just skimmed a couple of threads, so I might have missed things, but that's how it seemed to me. By the way, the male seiyuu with the highest number of anti- threads appear to be Suzumura Kenichi (Shinn Asuka) and Konishi Katsuyuki (Sergay Wang).

The main complaints continue to be that the show is not funny and nothing special, and seem to take delight in saying KyoAni has taken a step backward.

Unfortunately things never really even out on 2Channel as far as I can tell. They'll all be back next week to do the same thing again. The one thing that amuses me the most is that like every topic exceeds the 1000 post mark in like an hour and all I ever see are these really short post which I can only assume is a back and forth flame war going on between the people. The Anti-Threads I assume are some sort of attempt to counter the usual threads for the sake of doing so. To me you can't win an argument just by creating a topic soley for the sake of bashing somebody you probably don't even know, it just starts flame wars and cross-thread raids. I can't really take anything 2Channel says seriously, I'm sorry. It seems likes its all just one big mess of "I hate Aya Hirano", "Bloody Gaijin I hate you I will do so and so to your children", "This was crap", "Kyoto Animation Forever". I mean I can only assume, but this is the impression I get whenever somebody mentions something happening over there.

I'm looking at part 13 right now and you know, they are talking about the air times and then the opening, and out of nowhere is an ASCII art of the Emperor of Brittania and then some guy gives his ASCII art of approval and then ASCII of Izumi and then Nanoha for some reason and the Emperor again and then a Kyon ASCII of him expressing dissaproval. It's just chaos. Basically you'll get the one guy posting random stuff about the show and another countering it with something that has nothing to do with anything regarding why the show sucks compared to so and so and repeat for as long as one can hold out.

[Mirrinus]

Originally Posted by Kaioshin_Sama

Unfortunately things never really even out on 2Channel as far as I can tell. They'll all be back next week to do the same thing again. The one thing that amuses me the most is that like every topic exceeds the 1000 post mark in like an hour and all I ever see are these really short post which I can only assume is a back and forth flame war going on between the people. The Anti-Threads I assume are some sort of attempt to counter the usual threads for the sake of doing so. To me you can't win an argument just by creating a topic soley for the sake of bashing somebody you probably don't even know, it just starts flame wars and cross-thread raids. I can't really take anything 2Channel says seriously, I'm sorry. It seems likes its all just one big mess of "I hate Aya Hirano", "Bloody Gaijin I hate you I will do so and so to your children", "This was crap", "Kyoto Animation Forever". I mean I can only assume, but this is the impression I get whenever somebody mentions something happening over there.

This is EXACTLY why I don't ever bother to read 2-chan. Gee, I'm agreeing with Kaioshin_dono an awful lot today, no?

In completely unrelated news.

[Nightengale]

I think the main problem or negativity stemming from Kyoto Animation's seemingly not-as-great-as-thought-it-would-be Lucky Star that's overshadowed by the OP is that not many is extremely familiar with the manga and it's style or execution within the 4-koma jokes. Granted, I don't read it, but from what I've heard, it's more subtle and pokes random fun at the little things in society and daily life from a bunch of game-girl otakus.

I'm not sure if this is a proper comparison... but those who watch Sunrise adaptions know that they tend to take subtle, sometimes not even subtle jokes or puns and flamboyantly grinds them to the ground and gives it out with a bang. It's not wholely "faithful" to the original source material for most parts, but it's more astethically pleasing as people would get bored as well if Sunrise faithfully adapted Yakitate Japan with simple puns and scientific explainations. As for Kyoto Animation, they seem to be going the "subtle" route that for it's sacrifice of excitingness or comedy in a more open air, captures how the manga's feel was?

Or maybe some people were expecting Kyou no Go no Ni instead? :P

Originally Posted by Lunacy

As for curry, I like to put scrambled egg over mine.. weird, I know.

I thought the joke was on how the curry was prepared instead of what we eat curry with? I like adding milk and slices of apple when making the curry. It's not a common practice in Southeast Asia, but I blame manga for making me and my grandma experiment with our cooking....and using my parents as kitchen lab rats.

I demand ULTRAMAN SONG!

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by Kaioshin_Sama

... I can't really take anything 2Channel says seriously, I'm sorry. It seems likes its all just one big mess of "I hate Aya Hirano", "Bloody Gaijin I hate you I will do so and so to your children", "This was crap", "Kyoto Animation Forever". I mean I can only assume, but this is the impression I get whenever somebody mentions something happening over there.

I'm not reporting the good stuff, I guess, but there is lots of everything, good and bad. For example, with everyone here and there totally confused by Touka Gettan, there have been some good explanations posted there, and sensible discussion. And there are sensible posts for and against Lucky Star sandwiched among the dross. People just ignore the posts that don't interest them, I think.

[dkellis]

Originally Posted by Mirrinus

Then again, I'm kinda glad in a way that a lot of people are dismissing this show. That just means people won't be running around complaining about how overrated it is, and I can enjoy it in peace.

Actually, I'm predicting, based on trends I've already seen in various other anime threads (SHnY being the most obvious, but I've also seen it in Manabi Straight and Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha and definitely in Mai HiME), some people who don't like the show will continue to watch it anyway, entirely because they want to stick around doing nothing but slam the show.

I have no clue why they do this. The most common reason given is "balance", which I think kind of defeats the purpose of being a fan in the first place.

To answer other questions: I would probably not have heard of Lucky Star as soon as I did if it weren't for KyoAni. I would probably have tagged it as "try it and see" once I looked at various bloggers' Spring season picks. I would probably have grabbed the raw when it came out, since I do it for most new anime nowadays.

And KyoAni or otherwise, I'd definitely have stayed with it and fell in love with it just as I am right now.

It's amazing how painful it feels when something which I like is bashed to bits for not conforming to the "accepted high-class taste" or some such.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by Mirrinus

This is EXACTLY why I don't ever bother to read 2-chan. Gee, I'm agreeing with Kaioshin_dono an awful lot today, no?

In completely unrelated news.

I think what the people posting in the comment section don't realize is that its another slight. He's basically saying the show is no more funny than an episode of Benny Hill.

To the guy above: It's cause it isn't like Haruhi (Animation and character-wise) that's its being bashed to bits I think. There are no Key fans to back them up on this one like there were with Kanon and Air though , which lacked Haruhi. I have a strong feeling everybody felt Konata was the next Haruhi and they expected lots of shouting, bullying and bossiness from Aya Hirano's Izumi, who's really just kind of a dumb otaku that goes Muuuuuuuuu.......

I swear Kyoto Animation is parodying themselves or the impression they give by making this choice of series though. Just think about it for a second and it kind of makes sense both regarding the simplisitic almost superflat style animation and the characters that are so in your face moe at times it can't be a coincidence. The show feels like SD KyoAni, if only they had actually made Lucky Star in the first place.

[Skane]

Originally Posted by ~Tsukuyomi

~ On another topic, I would like an avatar request where Konata repeatedly punches the foreigner... Just have it regularly punch it... Don't really have to get all of Mr. Foreigner...

Two versions. The former is slightly slower at 20fps, while the latter follows the anime speed at 25fps.



Cheers.

[Lunacy]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

I thought the joke was on how the curry was prepared instead of what we eat curry with? I like adding milk and slices of apple when making the curry. It's not a common practice in Southeast Asia, but I blame manga for making me and my grandma experiment with our cooking....and using my parents as kitchen lab rats.

I demand ULTRAMAN SONG!

I have no special way to prepare my curry, that is why I shared my bizarre scrambled egg curry. I didn't mean to confuse anyone. Milk, apple, honey, aren't those ingridients in curry pretty common in Japan? I heard goat milk does wonders, though.
*sorry I love talking about food*

Ultraman song would be pretty funny to hear Konata sing.

I think, Lucky Star will get more interesting as the series continues.. From what I hear she starts working at a Maid Cafe? Oh, that will be fun.

[Level E]

Originally Posted by Lunacy

I have no special way to prepare my curry, that is why I Ultraman song would be pretty funny to hear Konata sing.

Did you miss the reference in the OP?

[Skane]

The following is not AnimeSuki-friendly and was purely made for my own amusement.



Personally, I am flabbergasted that they poured so much detail into that one scene. It was practically animated at a full 24 frames per second (most animes are 8fps, with the good ones usually at 12fps. Beggar productions are 6fps). Yes, you read that right. An OVA-level framerate for a parody of Streetfighter.

If you thought that marble in Kanon was overkill...

Cheers.

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Level E

Did you miss the reference in the OP?

How many even noticed, I wonder?

That's the favourite part of the OP for me, 2nd being the purple haired girl walking like she's some anime character at the temple walkway. Paradox lol.

Maybe we'll see Konata : ~ "she was getting harrased by some Baltan cosplayer and I specium-beamed his ass".

[Tokkan]

Originally Posted by Skane

The following is not AnimeSuki-friendly and was purely made for my own amusement.



Personally, I am flabbergasted that they poured so much detail into that one scene. It was practically animated at a full 24 frames per second (most animes are 8fps, with the good ones usually at 12fps. Beggar productions are 6fps). Yes, you read that right. An OVA-level framerate for a parody of Streetfighter.

If you thought that marble in Kanon was overkill...

Cheers.

I'd like to use that for an avatar over at a forum where that's perfectly within the rules for avatars (i.e. not here). May I?

[Skane]

Originally Posted by Rob the Fox

I'd like to use that for an avatar over at a forum where that's perfectly within the rules for avatars (i.e. not here). May I?

Sure, go ahead.

Cheers.

[Lunacy]

Originally Posted by Level E

Did you miss the reference in the OP?

Ultraman or curry reference?

Konata: "じゃ。。ｶﾚｰﾗｲｽはどうしてる？ﾙｳとﾗｲｽはまぜてたべる？”　(sorry not good with kanji)

I personally thought Konata was asking "do you mix rice and the sauce before eating?" meaning do you like to blend before eating or keep it clean? If I got the wrong impression than please do correct me.

If it's some Ultraman reference, no I did not get it. I have watched a few Ultraman episodes, a long time ago, but not enough to spot any hardcore reference. But I would love for you to point some out for me. =)

Edit: Nvm.. I just watched it and saw Konata with the arm pose. Funny. lol You guys have good eyes. I'm impressed. =P