Shingeki no Kyojin (Attack on Titan) - Manga discussion

[Jan-Poo]

It's quite obvious at this point that Zeke will change his opinion about his father, but will that really affect his plan to "euthanize" the Eldian people? I really hope it's not just because of daddy issues that he wants to bring to extinction a whole race.

[Kanon]

Spoiler for 121:

The Attack Titan's special ability is finally revealed, and it is the ability to peer into the future of its users. So that's a unique thing in the end. It turns out Grisha didn't have the guts to kill the Reiss family and it was Eren who manipulated him into doing it. Eren also made Grisha see a future so horrifying Grisha begged Zeke to stop him. What does he intend to do?

I feel bad for Grisha. He tried to turn Zeke into a puppet and it backfired on him hard, and in the end he himself was turned into Eren's puppet.

[Ruki0089]

We haven't see what happen when Eren eat Grishia. I'm pretty sure there is more.

[Wandering Soul]

Spoiler for 121:

So Eren is actually the mastermind of the Reiss family being exterminated. It's sort of funny that Zeke went into this trying to undo Grisha's brainwashing on Eren and now he's trying to fight off Eren's influence on Grisha.

I found it pretty funny that Zeke's reaction to Freida was thinking that he would get along with her.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Spoiler for 121:

The Attack Titan's special ability is finally revealed, and it is the ability to peer into the future of its users. So that's a unique thing in the end. It turns out Grisha didn't have the guts to kill the Reiss family and it was Eren who manipulated him into doing it. Eren also made Grisha see a future so horrifying Grisha begged Zeke to stop him. What does he intend to do?

I feel bad for Grisha. He tried to turn Zeke into a puppet and it backfired on him hard, and in the end he himself was turned into Eren's puppet.

This is some next level shit. These past few chapters have just been going deeper into the rabbit hole. Attack Titan's ability is appropriate for the theme of rebellion against the tyranny of the past. You'd think the nine titans would never oppose the founder from which they originated so this kinda reminds me of Amir Gaul from Kiba.

[GDB]

It might be appropriate for the theme of the story, but unlike basically everyone else (except maybe the Warhammer Titan), his title does not match his ability in the slightest.

Though I guess we don't really know what the Female Titan's ability is either, other than having boobs. Everything she did has been shown to be trainable by other shifters. Maybe the "encase in crystal" thing?

[bakato]

Originally Posted by GDB

It might be appropriate for the theme of the story, but unlike basically everyone else (except maybe the Warhammer Titan), his title does not match his ability in the slightest.

Though I guess we don't really know what the Female Titan's ability is either, other than having boobs. Everything she did has been shown to be trainable by other shifters. Maybe the "encase in crystal" thing?

Memory's a bit foggy but every titan ability so far has been an expansion of abilities they all have to some degree be like the Colossus Titan's ability to create steam or some unique form like being quadruped. The ability to transfer their power through paths transcending time and space is something all the titans have. Attack Titan has better use of it than most.

[Justice Knight]

i forgot who owns the Attack Titan now, the story is so messy and confusing and i wish it can end asap.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by bakato

Memory's a bit foggy but every titan ability so far has been an expansion of abilities they all have to some degree be like the Colossus Titan's ability to create steam or some unique form like being quadruped. The ability to transfer their power through paths transcending time and space is something all the titans have. Attack Titan has better use of it than most.

But what does it have to do with "Attack"?

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by GDB

It might be appropriate for the theme of the story, but unlike basically everyone else (except maybe the Warhammer Titan), his title does not match his ability in the slightest.

Though I guess we don't really know what the Female Titan's ability is either, other than having boobs. Everything she did has been shown to be trainable by other shifters. Maybe the "encase in crystal" thing?

The Warhammer Titan could encase herself in crystal too, so that's not unique to her either. It really is just the boobs

As for the Attack Titan's name, let's remember the word "attack" isn't the proper translation of "shingeki", which IIRC is close to advancing/marching. In this way, it kind of makes sense, he's advancing with or against the flow of time, or something like that.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by GDB

But what does it have to do with "Attack"?

The titans didn’t name themselves.

Originally Posted by Kanon

The Warhammer Titan could encase herself in crystal too, so that's not unique to her either. It really is just the boobs

As for the Attack Titan's name, let's remember the word "attack" isn't the proper translation of "shingeki", which IIRC is close to advancing/marching. In this way, it kind of makes sense, he's advancing with or against the flow of time, or something like that.

[Jan-Poo]

I don't know if it can even be said that all of the 9 titans have unique powers, and their names anyway seem to be based more on their outlook than their powers, even though their outlook also depends on the body of the owner. Does the titan power always affect the outlook though? Eren sure didn't change a bit after eating the warhammer titan, Ymir was exactly the same before eating Marcel.

One can only wonder, what happens if a man eats the female titan?


Anyway, that Eren could see the future wasn't really a secret, I'm talking about the old Eren, the one Grisha ate. There's a scene where he even mentions Mikasa and Armin. Of course we knew that the present Eren could probably do the same, but we didn't know it was a power so unique that not even the founder possessed it and he wasn't aware of it.

Also is it really possible that Eren wants to eradicate every non Eldian on the planet? It really is hard to believe, but everything seems to point that way.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

I don't know if it can even be said that all of the 9 titans have unique powers, and their names anyway seem to be based more on their outlook than their powers, even though their outlook also depends on the body of the owner. Does the titan power always affect the outlook though? Eren sure didn't change a bit after eating the warhammer titan, Ymir was exactly the same before eating Marcel.

One can only wonder, what happens if a man eats the female titan?

Ymir looked the same because she couldn't access the powers of the Jaw titan. Compatibility problems, I think they said? I assume that if a man ate the female titan, it'll end up the same, he'll just turn into a regular titan when he transforms.

[The Small One]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

Also is it really possible that Eren wants to eradicate every non Eldian on the planet? It really is hard to believe, but everything seems to point that way.

IMHO the author is playing the "what is Eren's real goal"-game too long for now. It can only become a big disappointment when it's revealed after all this built-up suspense.

I wonder if the auther intended to make this chapter this confusing: So Eren choose his path, after accessing Grisha's memories of Eren's future, which Grisha got filtered by Eren… somehow this sounds like some crazy feedback problem which should make anybody crazy. I mean when we think about the other shifters: They have to carry the memories of their predecessors, which is already hard enough, but the Attack Titan also has the memories of the future, including his own memories of what's to come. In the end, Eren should already know if he's able to succeed or not.

I also wonder, at which point in the story Eren was able to access the memories and special powers of his Titan.

[Jan-Poo]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Ymir looked the same because she couldn't access the powers of the Jaw titan. Compatibility problems, I think they said? I assume that if a man ate the female titan, it'll end up the same, he'll just turn into a regular titan when he transforms.

I must have missed that, but I guess it would explain a few things. Though, is there a way to tell in advance if someone has this kind of incompatibility?

Can you imagine receiving the "honor" of becoming the next "X" titan after a heavy selection only to be told that you must get eaten right away because of "incompatibility issues"?


Regarding the name of the "attack titan", yes the actual japanese term "shingeki" means advancing, marching on, but it really has the meaning of "advancing in battle", you wouldn't really use it to say "advance in time". My guess is that it was named that way because it has a body type fit for fighting, especially since nobody is supposed to know about its actual power.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

I must have missed that, but I guess it would explain a few things. Though, is there a way to tell in advance if someone has this kind of incompatibility?

Can you imagine receiving the "honor" of becoming the next "X" titan after a heavy selection only to be told that you must get eaten right away because of "incompatibility issues"?


Regarding the name of the "attack titan", yes the actual japanese term "shingeki" means advancing, marching on, but it really has the meaning of "advancing in battle", you wouldn't really use it to say "advance in time". My guess is that it was named that way because it has a body type fit for fighting, especially since nobody is supposed to know about its actual power.

I suppose there's a way to test it, or they would be taking too much risks. It seems like family members of a compatible person are more likely to be compatible as well. Marcel and Porco, Reiner and Gabi, the Tybur family, Eren and Grisha, and Colt and Falco even though those two weren't candidates for the same titan.

Come to think of it, I guess Armin lucked out. Instead of being the new colossal titan he could have been the manlet titan.

[GDB]

I assume he'd still be Colossal, but if he had no compatibility his titan form would just collapse on itself due to not being able to sustain the weight or something.

I bet he's compatible solely because he had minor feelings for Annie or some nonsense like Berthold did.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

I must have missed that, but I guess it would explain a few things. Though, is there a way to tell in advance if someone has this kind of incompatibility?

Can you imagine receiving the "honor" of becoming the next "X" titan after a heavy selection only to be told that you must get eaten right away because of "incompatibility issues"?


Regarding the name of the "attack titan", yes the actual japanese term "shingeki" means advancing, marching on, but it really has the meaning of "advancing in battle", you wouldn't really use it to say "advance in time". My guess is that it was named that way because it has a body type fit for fighting, especially since nobody is supposed to know about its actual power.

It's also possible - since holders of a given Titan influence each other through that connection - that they all have similar personalities. Especially holders of the Attack Titan, since the connection goes both ways in time. Maybe all holders of the Attack Titan were like Eren. Of course, Grisha, in the end, wasn't like that. But maybe it's just because Zeke's betrayal and what happened to his wife broke him. Everyone's got limits.

[bastek66]

Chapter is out on korean sites

Spoiler for 122:

The Rumbling started

[grecefar]

damn that was a sick flashback, poor ymir.