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Clarste · 2009-07-01, 17:39

This whole thing was one long chain of misunderstandings. I mean, that was it, the entire plot. The only problems they ever had were misunderstandings, and all character development reset whenever a new misunderstanding was necessary to advance the plot. Basically, if they had ever given each other a chance to explain, well, anything, then the whole series would be over in the third volume or so.

Either its bad writing or realistic character flaws... flaws that make it impossible for these people to ever be in a healthy relationship with anyone.

Shouta · 2009-07-01, 21:07

Regardless of the whole long string of misunderstandings, it's a good ride until the end. There is a certain lack of direct conflict in it though and that's what keeps it from being one of the best in this genre and demographic, at least to me.

DragoZERO · 2009-07-01, 21:18

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Originally Posted by Clarste

This whole thing was one long chain of misunderstandings. I mean, that was it, the entire plot. The only problems they ever had were misunderstandings, and all character development reset whenever a new misunderstanding was necessary to advance the plot. Basically, if they had ever given each other a chance to explain, well, anything, then the whole series would be over in the third volume or so.

Either its bad writing or realistic character flaws... flaws that make it impossible for these people to ever be in a healthy relationship with anyone.

If you look at any manga, anime, TV show, or movie you can cut it down a lot. Its best not to do it, lol.

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Originally Posted by Shouta

Regardless of the whole long string of misunderstandings, it's a good ride until the end. There is a certain lack of direct conflict in it though and that's what keeps it from being one of the best in this genre and demographic, at least to me.

Yes. What a great ride it was.

cloudninja · 2009-07-02, 23:59

Even though I remember being annoyed at both of the main characters for much of the series for things they did or did'nt do, I still enjoyed reading it. At least it meant that I cared enough about the characters that I wanted them to get together and they finally did. There have been other manga where I just stopped caring what happened.

Mughi · 2010-10-24, 00:47

I'm at chapt 98 and so far, although I'm enjoying this series immensely, the whole thing reminds me of a seinen version of Rumiko Takahashi's Maison Ikkoku. Its generally better drawn in may places, but the way its setup, the characters, the conflicts... its so Maison Ikkoku-like its uncanny, but not actually better in any specific way. I have the feeling its going to end the same too, but that will be fine. There must have been something in the water in the 90's.

Its been a great and compulsive read so far, so I HIGHLY recommend it.

aliasxn · 2010-10-24, 11:06

I regret that I ever picked this up, it's one of the few mangas I wish I could unread it. That girl deserved to... ... Nevermind.

DragoZERO · 2010-10-24, 11:32

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Originally Posted by aliasxn

I regret that I ever picked this up, it's one of the few mangas I wish I could unread it. That girl deserved to... ... Nevermind.

What? This was a great series and the characters were all awesome.

You'll have to elaborate.

Fran~ · 2010-10-24, 11:44

^ I second that.

Mughi · 2010-10-24, 11:51

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Originally Posted by aliasxn

I regret that I ever picked this up, it's one of the few mangas I wish I could unread it. That girl deserved to... ... Nevermind.

Well so far its going pretty swimmingly for the genre. I'll get back to you on that opinion once I complete it.

Mughi · 2010-10-25, 09:21

OK, finished.

LOVED this series. It had both all the typical situations and issues of the genre, yet managed to have its own twist on them. It still reminded me of Maison Ikkoku most of the way through (OK ALL of the way through) but only in the broad strokes. Over time it had turns that gave each significant character a chance to grow. Really nice.

Most of all though the way the final was handled was great. Dedicating a whole volume to the wrap up of the series was a real treat. I've read SO many manga that wrap in one or two chapters just to get it over with, or because the editor demanded an end that even with the good ones, the sorting out of all of the characters lives is given short shrift. In Yume de Aetara, we get to see how everything works out (after a fashion) with all of the members of the family we've gotten to know over the span of the series and it left a really good taste in my mouth.

Spoiler for The only missing part::

Great series!

Time to go back to the beginning and read it again!

DragoZERO · 2010-10-25, 10:25

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Originally Posted by Mughi

Spoiler for The only missing part::

That's what I was thinking too. We could have had so much fun with them trying to be intimate with each other. But I am glad it was skipped because it would have mostly been awkward and face palm stuff. Besides, this series didn't really have sex-anything in it. It was clean compared to many other series.

Mughi · 2010-10-25, 10:48

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That's what I was thinking too. We could have had so much fun with them trying to be intimate with each other. But I am glad it was skipped because it would have mostly been awkward and face palm stuff. Besides, this series didn't really have sex-anything in it. It was clean compared to many other series.

I agree in large part which is why in the end, I'm good with the wrap up. IMHO it would have been lots of FUN to prolong the facepalm stuff in the area of personal physical relations, especially because in a way the author was basically leading us to it the whole time, but in the end, went for the emotional connection instead. In its own way, it indeed was a squeaky clean series after all.

I'm sure there were plenty of H Doujin done back in the early 2000's of this title. Besides, one could pick up Futari Ecchi and consider it the continuation of this series thematically speaking! Heh.

Darknemo2000 · 2010-10-25, 10:50

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I agree in large part which is why in the end, I'm good with the wrap up. IMHO it would have been lots of FUN to prolong the facepalm stuff in the area of personal physical relations, especially because in a way the author was basically leading us to it the whole time, but in the end, went for the emotional connection instead. In its own way, it indeed was a squeaky clean series after all.

I'm sure there were plenty of H Doujin done back in the early 2000's of this title. Besides, one could pick up Futari Ecchi and consider it the continuation of this series thematically speaking! Heh.

Not really. Unpopular series do not get much attention in doujin part. They were more focused on Evangelion and Love Hina back then. No wonder - more sexy girls in there.

~~User68604~~ · 2011-05-26, 14:05

started this..i like the premise, like the characters, hope it turns out well!

edit: wow, first time i disliked the main girl MORE than the main guy...jeez..lol.

~~User68604~~ · 2011-05-27, 16:52

up to chapter 66

Spoiler:

solomon · 2011-05-27, 17:23

I thought it was cute but come on people

Godai OWNS Fuguno

~~User68604~~ · 2011-05-28, 06:45

Spoiler:

i hate this bish

DragoZERO · 2011-05-28, 08:58

What chapter is that from?

~~User68604~~ · 2011-05-28, 09:02

75 titled "kiss"

DragoZERO · 2011-05-28, 09:22

I didn't realize this had NTR in it. I don't think I even knew the term when I first read it.

Such a great series, truly.

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aliasxn Eye for an Eye Join Date: Apr 2008	I regret that I ever picked this up, it's one of the few mangas I wish I could unread it. That girl deserved to... ... Nevermind. __________________

2010-10-24, 11:44	Link #48
Fran~ floating away... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Beyond World's End	^ I second that. __________________ Improving my english ^^

2010-10-25, 09:21	Link #50
Mughi Wordy b@stard Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mid-Tejas	OK, finished. LOVED this series. It had both all the typical situations and issues of the genre, yet managed to have its own twist on them. It still reminded me of Maison Ikkoku most of the way through (OK ALL of the way through) but only in the broad strokes. Over time it had turns that gave each significant character a chance to grow. Really nice. Most of all though the way the final was handled was great. Dedicating a whole volume to the wrap up of the series was a real treat. I've read SO many manga that wrap in one or two chapters just to get it over with, or because the editor demanded an end that even with the good ones, the sorting out of all of the characters lives is given short shrift. In Yume de Aetara, we get to see how everything works out (after a fashion) with all of the members of the family we've gotten to know over the span of the series and it left a really good taste in my mouth. Spoiler for The only missing part:: ...was the honeymoon night/first H-encounter between them. It could have been so amazingly funny and touching at the same time. I get WHY they skipped it, but after so many chapters of french postcard images of Nagisa, and stumbles by Masuo trying to figure out technique, its almost weird to have them suddenly having a child. Its like the whole series was a build up to their "first night together" and then failure to launch story-wise. Suddenly, there has been a time skip and life after sex is just life. (Of course in real life this is true, but HEY!) Not that a Futari Ecchi style chapter would be called for, but SOME kind of tip of the hat to the culmination of all of the frustration would have been nice. Great series! Time to go back to the beginning and read it again!

2011-05-26, 14:05	Link #54
~~User68604~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Oct 2007	started this..i like the premise, like the characters, hope it turns out well! edit: wow, first time i disliked the main girl MORE than the main guy...jeez..lol. Last edited by User68604; 2011-05-26 at 14:25.

2011-05-27, 16:52	Link #55
~~User68604~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Oct 2007	up to chapter 66 Spoiler: after he moved to the parent company's town, the series really picked up! i was literally skipping entire chapters of fillers and dumb nonsense, but now it has gotten good... im right at the point where he decides to skip out on the meeting of the 70 million yen deal to go escort his co-worker to the hospital. mad respect for him! even tho he is shy, weak, timid, he has a strong sense of integrity. great to see a character like this..

2009-07-01, 17:39	Link #41
Clarste Human Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37	This whole thing was one long chain of misunderstandings. I mean, that was it, the entire plot. The only problems they ever had were misunderstandings, and all character development reset whenever a new misunderstanding was necessary to advance the plot. Basically, if they had ever given each other a chance to explain, well, anything, then the whole series would be over in the third volume or so. Either its bad writing or realistic character flaws... flaws that make it impossible for these people to ever be in a healthy relationship with anyone.

2009-07-01, 21:07	Link #42
Shouta Infinite-Zero/Translator Join Date: Dec 2003	Regardless of the whole long string of misunderstandings, it's a good ride until the end. There is a certain lack of direct conflict in it though and that's what keeps it from being one of the best in this genre and demographic, at least to me.

2009-07-02, 23:59	Link #44
cloudninja Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	Even though I remember being annoyed at both of the main characters for much of the series for things they did or did'nt do, I still enjoyed reading it. At least it meant that I cared enough about the characters that I wanted them to get together and they finally did. There have been other manga where I just stopped caring what happened.

2010-10-24, 00:47	Link #45
Mughi Wordy b@stard Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mid-Tejas	I'm at chapt 98 and so far, although I'm enjoying this series immensely, the whole thing reminds me of a seinen version of Rumiko Takahashi's Maison Ikkoku. Its generally better drawn in may places, but the way its setup, the characters, the conflicts... its so Maison Ikkoku-like its uncanny, but not actually better in any specific way. I have the feeling its going to end the same too, but that will be fine. There must have been something in the water in the 90's. Its been a great and compulsive read so far, so I HIGHLY recommend it.

2011-05-27, 17:23	Link #56
solomon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Suburban DC	I thought it was cute but come on people Godai OWNS Fuguno

2011-05-28, 06:45	Link #57
~~User68604~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Oct 2007	Spoiler: noooooooooooo :'( i hate this bish Last edited by User68604; 2011-05-28 at 07:50.

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2011-05-28, 09:02	Link #59
~~User68604~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Oct 2007	75 titled "kiss"

2011-05-28, 09:22	Link #60
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