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And this is coming from somebody who has been a Gundam fan for over half his life now and swears by the franchise as his absolute favorite. It's seriously not the end of the world to me if they want to target a younger audience with this one or if they want to try a concept that is more out there than usual. I mean is that not what A.U is all about? Opening the door to different opportunities, demographics and stylizations and freeing the Gundam concept from being bound to any one interpretation or timeline. I honestly probably wouldn't be that into Gundam if it weren't for it's stunning ability to reinvent itself every few years. I honestly think most Western internet Gundam fans have yet to grasp what the whole purpose of A.U is and it's kind of unfortunate cause it's been around for a good 15+ years. They also tend to have really shitty and selfish attitudes when it comes to Gundam which is nothing short of a source of constant source of embarrassment for me when trying to get people into Gundam. I basically have to take them aside, tell them to listen to my advice and only my advice and tell them to try to not read anything pertaining to Gundam on the internet cause the fandom is likely to immediately put them off. |
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You might be totally right, it might be tonally acceptable, but from first impressions it doesn't have anything that initially excites me...I see 3 butterface kids with PDA's and what appears to be the "Heroman" version of RX-78...It might be good, but first impressions have meaning...The acuteness of the fan reactions here have as much meaning as my realtalk...This is what occurs when you get your balloon popped... @K-Sama - You know I'm true Gundam, probably, most likely, even more than you, but I just got my balloon popped...I'm skillful enough to get anybody to bite at gundam based on the error of their misconceived notions, but I, like the fringe fan, have a normal emotional output that reacts to something I naturally am disappointed by...Like anyone else who pines for new Gundam I got excited...I then saw 3 kids who look like they were dropped straight outta yugioh GX with a pop-up book cut-out of RX-78 at their flank...This is my natural reaction to that...Something that doesn't come close to touching my Gundam cred throughout the years...I completely "get" AU, and this is AU popping my balloon...
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2011-06-10, 00:42 | Link #1123 |
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And here we start with one of the problems of early presumptions and jumping the gun. Have they been confirmed to be remote control Gundams from anywhere asides from non-reputable sources? Last I saw from searching around, that particular bit of info has been disproven as hearsay until otherwise reinstated by official sources in the near future. The only confirmed info we have are those that are stated by reputable sources like Anime News Network, and they mention nothing of the sort. Heck, there are still people who believe AGE is going to be a Card Game-themed Gundam, and yet that has never been the case from the beginning.
I know about first impressions and such, and I pretty much understand the impact such impressions can make. I too got a very acute reaction from seeing the scans initially to the point of denial. But then I have been betrayed by first impressions before for good and bad - series that look awesome suddenly going south, and series that look like they don't suit my taste becoming some of my favorites. Hence why I'd rather not rely on my first impressions to prejudge whether a series is good or not.
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2011-06-10, 00:51 | Link #1124 |
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You never get a second chance at a first impression LoweGear...
I'd say the cover art supports my impression of what I see, more than what you're optimistically expecting...Again, I welcome being wrong with psycoframes on...
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2011-06-10, 00:55 | Link #1126 | |
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A favorite example of mine in media to point out the difference between first impressions and the actual result is Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. Cute girls with frilly outfits and pink backgrounds just like any other mahou shoujo supposedly aimed at young girls... until the death, despair and sorrow overwhelm 3/4's of the entire story enough to make Greek tragedies proud. I am not "optimistic" about anything if you want to know. I'm just saying that being prejudgemental and all that is rather premature.
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2011-06-10, 01:12 | Link #1127 |
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Aren't they going to do a presentation about it?
We're likely getting more information when the thing is officially annonced on Monday, we should wait till then as part of our first impressions of the series. Since it's really meant to be first impresions anyways.
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2011-06-10, 01:57 | Link #1128 |
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Well I really like the gundam design all 3 of them. A modern take on the classic design gundam look. Simple yet effective. I don't like the characters look though.
Hopefully this is a super robot show like G gundam. I need new G gundam and this might be the closest I will get. I'm just glad it's not new seed so d-klack can be upset. SEED was so horrible it made me stop watching when it aired and 00 got me back into gundam in 2010. I not too happy about this kiddy direction but I will give it a chance. |
2011-06-10, 03:41 | Link #1129 | |
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Being prejudiced against something isn't always bad sometimes it keeps from making dumb mistakes, for instance I was raised to believe that Ford and Chevrolet do not make great vehicles and for a time I was prejudiced against them, then 2 years ago I drive a Chevy with 4500 miles off the lot and by the time I hit 20k I've put more money into fixing it than I did buying the darn thing. Now rational thought says "Hey every Chevy can't be bad!", but to an overwhelming degree I'm thinking: "I should've listened to Dad." So back to anime, I'm investing in a show, not necessarily with money but with time, so yes some people have to prejudge. However thats not to say I'm not gonna watch this show of that being prejudiced keeps me from watching crap(last year I made some bad investments), I'm just saying it pays dividends to be prematurely prejudiced, sometimes. Now that's totally like the opposite of what wingd was talking about but thats my two cents.
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2011-06-10, 04:04 | Link #1130 | |
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It's a totally different situation from seeing something for the first time, and then immediately writing it off as a bad thing using only your own initial conceptions and impressions even though you've never seen it before. And in this case, there's no one telling you the thing is good or bad by prior experience, because none of us have a time machine to go look into the future and say "hey guess what? This thing is this and that. Don't/Do see it". What would've happened if your experience with the Chevy had been good, contrary to the advice you got? Then the bias you've built up would've been wrong. This stuff has the chance to go both ways. I'm not saying to watch each and every title out there, heck I don't. Just that prejudice in this case isn't really a good reaction to the title. If people don't like to watch it, then they shouldn't, but I'd rather not hear them going on about it's weaknesses and flaws then they're not even going to see what the deal is about, as is the case with every series ever.
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Well, all I can say is that the next Gundam series isn't exactly what I had expected. However, the concept does seem to have some potential in it.
As for the design, I think the new Gundam looks decent. Not great, but not horrible either. And as a kid who grown up watching Digimon (the first two seasons) and some other kid-oriented shows, I'm not that bothered by the character's look actually. |
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^As a man who had grew and watched all of Digimon (and still does ^^) I have to say that aside form Furitto's design, the other two generations had grown on me. I mean in general dresses the way a typical A.U. Gundam pilot might dress casually, while Kio has a ... Kamille like vibe I guess? Or maybe because he looks like a girl lol
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To be fair to the show, I agree that we have to wait until the 13th till we figure what sort of tone the show will be taking. At the moment it looks like they are attempting of gathering a new market while appeasing the older one with Unicorn, but we don't know what they aim to do other than target a younger audience. Quote:
I've read through these past few pages, and I have to say I'm not really seeing ''a lot'' of people who aren't willing to give this show a try. I only seen a few who seemed genuinely upset about it (and not only because its too kiddy) with the majority on this forum being more cautious than anything, and rightly so since we have no idea what exactly is in store here. Your either making too big a deal from what some had said, or are predestining something that may happen.
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Regarding getting a younger audience, it seems like a good move on Sunrise's part to me. Gundam itself is quite a brand, so getting these kids to maybe start watching them would get them to the more darker Gundam series as they grow older (note that this last semtemce sentence is presuming this is not like most of the so called darker serious series out there; and this show may well be for all we know).
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The description I read so far feels like super robots.
I couldn't feel anything for the character designs. These aren't the designs I am accustomed on watching. I didn't grow up watching Digimon tbh, and I always skip Pokemon whenever I could (for reasons I have forgotten). I also didn't watched Yu-Gi-Oh (except reading the manga) and never bothered the sequels/spin-offs. I guess I'll just wait and see what's in store. Though, this would definitely be different from the other Gundam shows before. Another question. So no Sunrise, right? |
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