(L+CR) Goblin Slayer

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Endscape

The premise of your question is odd. Why would goblins be such a threat to humans?

From what we see so far, they attack undefended villages out in the frontier, and not even with any great degree of success, since most villages have experience killing goblins.

We see that one person, using utterly normal tactics, can kill a horde of twenty or so goblins. Even if a group strong enough to threaten more populous areas showed up, they'd be beaten back.

So, wondering whether guild-&-adventurers system can actually work for legit human society under constant various threats is odd now? Frankly, that’d be one o the first questions that I come up with in such setup. And looking at this thread, my POV is hardly unique as some people also share it .

Originally Posted by Endscape

You're welcome to think that. Even so, complaining that an apple isn't an orange doesn't really make sense.

Not a very good comparison/analogy. Just like how Klashikari didn’t do good comparing goblins threats with wolves threats. It just doesn't work that way.

Originally Posted by Endscape

Not seeing these 'holes' myself.

Oh but I see it. I see it all over (so far). The fact that readers are trying to defend the show by mentioning details that the show will or will not cover in the future episodes kinda support my perspective of the anime.

Originally Posted by Endscape

Honestly, this just tells me that you don't like RPG's.

As a setting for a completely serious story? Yeah, I probably don’t. Maybe because it doesn’t lend itself to a believable setting in a non-ridiculous way? I mean, Super Mario, Pac-Man, Sonic and Tetris are great and legendary games. Now try and make a serious story outta them if you can. Chances are, it will still come out ridiculous. I personally think games like Prince of Persia (yes, even the original one) has more potential for a serious & good adaptation than RPG-based source materials.

I did have absolute blast watching anime with such RPG-setting like Konosuba, probably because that anime understands how ridiculous the setting really is and just go for broke into the parody territory. I also kinda enjoy such setting in Danmachi coz it still has the tongue-in-cheek nature. And I already voiced my impression on Grimgar too.

[wuhugm]

Elf Best Girl yo~

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Eclar

I know it's kinda difficult to draw Goblin Slayer's armor, but I feel like sometimes they are a little bit lazy to resort to CGI.

And people are wondering why handrawn mecha anime is rare nowadays . It's really difficult to animate complex figure in handdraw-technique to the point where Kyoani have sworn to never do handdrawn mecha ever again after Full Metal Panic!. Animating complex handdrawn armored characters is now a dying art (to the point where Gundam is now the final line of defense for handdrawn mechas).

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^^
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Will he stay an Unsung Hero tho?
If like Erneiz said, there's conspiracy or something
Then GS might actually become a real hero
But wouldn't that ruin the theme of the story that is the unseen war?
Prefer it stays small scale tho

Unless the demon lord is a goblin god, I think he will continue staying as an unsung hero.

[Tenzen12]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

Elf Best Girl yo~

You know your stuff.

[Stark700]

Drunk High Elf gave me a laugh.

Same with Witch girl's accent. Meanwhile, it looks like the party is assembled. Quite a diverse range of classes/races together.

[EroKing]

Walking pair of tits with the most important line in the show so far.

[mysterious]

elf used aim bot. too op plz nerf.

But we finally got the show rolling. If the anime continues to stay faithful to the light novel, this will be good and "educational" in the field of applied physic.

[xeviouses]

I can't pass judgement on Witch Girl's way of speaking, by that I mean, I can never tell how her way of speaking is supposed in both LN and Manga. Is it supposed to pauses between words or speaking haltingly.

I'll just go with what the anime went with I guess.

[RDNexus]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

As a setting for a completely serious story? Yeah, I probably don’t. Maybe because it doesn’t lend itself to a believable setting in a non-ridiculous way? I mean, Super Mario, Pac-Man, Sonic and Tetris are great and legendary games. Now try and make a serious story outta them if you can. Chances are, it will still come out ridiculous. I personally think games like Prince of Persia (yes, even the original one) has more potential for a serious & good adaptation than RPG-based source materials.

Well...Sonic X could be taken as an example of your PoV...unfortunately...

Still, why do you guys have to apply Real World Logic to whatever story you watch or read? Because it makes it easier for you to relate with it?
I tend to take a story for what it is rather than what I'd want it to be or what it could be under the logic of this world of ours. It just hinders on the infinite possibilities of diversifying a reality other than ours.

[zeando]

They gave the perfect voice to the lizard, dignified as he should be.

..but wonder how the discussion played out in the studio when they were deciding the storyboard for the scene with the sorceress
"in this scene a booby witch joins the talking group, how do we make the transition of her coming in?"
"add lots of bouncing"
"ok then"

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

Not a very good comparison/analogy. Just like how Klashikari didn’t do good comparing goblins threats with wolves threats. It just doesn't work that way.

You know, I used "wolf threat" not to compare them with goblins, but to expose the fact humans had to defend against them because of the damage done, but couldn't -exterminate- the threat. Even if Goblins are really dangerous if left unchecked, they really can't exterminate them. I never implied goblins and wolves are even remotely similar in kind of threat danger.

And I think endscape issue with your point is that you insist on the whole "isekai" stuff whereas most of those series get away with very specific narrative explanations and very rarely bother with "how it actually works" (not saying GS is perfect in that regard, but at least, we do have details that give enough hints how the world works without infodump thrown at our face). The fact you keep mentioning comedy stuff for series borrowing from the RPG genre really show that you don't expect much from the genre itself, and it appears to give a bias to whatever you are reproaching to GS series as a whole.

Originally Posted by zeando

They gave the perfect voice to the lizard, dignified as he should be.

..but wonder how the discussion played out in the studio when they were deciding the storyboard for the scene with the sorceress
"in this scene a booby witch joins the talking group, how do we make the transition of her coming in?"
"add lots of bouncing"
"ok then"

I wish the director realize that an anime doesn't need extra emphasis compared to the manga. It makes the scene more cringe inducing than alluring in general. Like how Cow Girl's breasts bounced when she was at her window in ep2.

[zibi88]

Too bad that the manga went a bit better in this episode in regards of Dwarf humor . Sad that did not go with the "anvil" joke...and went with flat chest and small heart one.

Well the voices are not bad especially for the lizard priest. It would be even better if the made Dwarf a little bit less serious and did some relaxing/humor aspects to him. But I guess after episode 1 they want to make the anime a bit more serious.


Some say that Elf is the best girl...but come on ElfxGS have no future at all...elf lives way too long she would just watch him get old and die not so long in the future, while she will remain for another 6-8k years. GS might only end up with human girl or none as their lifespines would be the same.

Still I wonder if they will keep up the story with LN/Manga or will they follow a completly different path on one point. Anyway even this episode contained an error... when Witch was rolling her pipe around we can see her 3d face stale while we hear her talk...so yeah she has her lips shut yet you hear her talk.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by xeviouses

I can't pass judgement on Witch Girl's way of speaking, by that I mean, I can never tell how her way of speaking is supposed in both LN and Manga. Is it supposed to pauses between words or speaking haltingly.

I'll just go with what the anime went with I guess.

Yes. That is how she talks. Kinda annoying if you ask me.

GS's definition of "discussion" is truly unique. It even left Priestess speechless for a second.

[LG-MAX 2.o]

I wish they didn't resort to 3DCGI for Goblin Slayer all the time, even when he is idle.

The CG is still much less used here than in Inuyashiki and Overlord though.

That was truly nice episode, especially as I finally could get my weekly dose of best girl and everything else was close to perfect too. Only thing I missed was citation of Clarks 3rd law of fantasy.

I loved the scene where she shoots her "magic arrow", lol. It's nice.

And I was surprised by the pace of the episode, I thought it would still be the usual 2 chapt of the manga = 1 episode. It looks like we really have only two books adapted.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

You know, I used "wolf threat" not to compare them with goblins, but to expose the fact humans had to defend against them because of the damage done, but couldn't -exterminate- the threat. Even if Goblins are really dangerous if left unchecked, they really can't exterminate them. I never implied goblins and wolves are even remotely similar in kind of threat danger.

On the contrary, humanity, by nature, is capable of driving various species to extinction ever since the cavemen era if we really try. Note how species like Mammoths, Megalanias and thunderbirds were extinct mostly because of us. It'll be even easier to exterminate goblins if they can only reproduce via our women. Just making sure that none of our women gets kidnapped by the goblins will make their numbers dwindle.

Originally Posted by Klashikari

And I think endscape issue with your point is that you insist on the whole "isekai" stuff whereas most of those series get away with very specific narrative explanations and very rarely bother with "how it actually works" (not saying GS is perfect in that regard, but at least, we do have details that give enough hints how the world works without infodump thrown at our face). The fact you keep mentioning comedy stuff for series borrowing from the RPG genre really show that you don't expect much from the genre itself, and it appears to give a bias to whatever you are reproaching to GS series as a whole.

Biased or not, can you name RPG-based anime before GS that provide you with absolutely believable setting where people can actually flourish amidst constant attacks from various monsters with only the help of Adventurer-Guild system which aren't half-comedy or deconstruction of the classic RPG-setup? I'd sure like to check if there are any.

I give some post-2000s LN-based isekai titles some slack because I never treat them seriously to begin with, unless they show me that that they really do mean business.

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

On the contrary, humanity, by nature, is capable of driving various species to extinction ever since the cavemen era if we really try. Note how species like Mammoths, Megalanias and thunderbirds were extinct mostly because of us. It'll be even easier to exterminate goblins if they can only reproduce via our women. Just making sure that none of our women gets kidnapped by the goblins will make their numbers dwindle.

This is yet again the same issue I had with you back then: you focus your logic about real life when gods, magic, etc flourish. You don't know where and how goblins were even present in this world, so how can you expect that 1) humans can exterminate 2) that humans didn't try to exterminate them?

My example was that humans couldn't really stop wolves completely back then. But in case of GS (and any kind of fiction for that matter), the context is extremely important, and all the talk about ecosystem and whatnot don't work at all when fantasy is involved. What if the goblins were the spawn of a dark god? What if they were humans who were transformed by an evil wizard? What if they are born due to Parthenogenesis?

See the problem? Your logical approach ignore the context of the piece of fiction, which completely falls flat into considering the inherent issue with that approach: it really doesn't matter if it could be possible IRL, because the "rules" are not the same in the fiction, regardless if the author intentionally made that to screw people or not.

As such, the "extermination" as you believe to be possible with the species you have mentioned doesn't mean it is possible here. Moreso, the assumption "humans did nothing" is really a stretch.

Biased or not, can you name RPG-based anime before GS that provide you with absolutely believable setting where people can actually flourish amidst constant attacks from various monsters with only the help of Adventurer-Guild system which aren't half-comedy or deconstruction of the classic RPG-setup? I'd sure like to check if there are any.

The fact that no RPG adaptation could satisfy you doesn't mean you should already expect the worse for anything that tries to be remotely serious in its setting. Your are pretty much condemning any series regarding that subject without even considering its value with that kind of perspective.

As for your example demand, I should question how many series actually tried to do that to begin with, and I don't really expect a lot of them to paint that in a serious manner. Checking the list anyway.

[eiyuuou]

Note how humans have yet to wipe out cockroaches or rodents despite trying.
Mammoths have value in their hides, meat and bones so the comparison is silly.

here's an example of fried cockroaches from thailand.

Spoiler:

Would you eat a goblin?

[rpgman1]

GS is always narrow-minded and only interested in goblins. He doesn't care about demons, but will jump straight onto a quest if it involves goblins. Interesting that the high elf, dwarf, and lizardman are champions to represent their race.

Question is why GS when he's only been slaying goblins for most of his life? It's kind of reminds me of Lodoss though with race representation. I enjoyed the banter between each other though and offer different points of view.

[Klashikari]

They need a goblin specialist for that mission. Remember that they didn't ask GS to join them to fight against the legion of the demon lord. Instead, they need him so they can destroy the goblin nest next to the elven lands before they can even considering defending themselves against demons coming at their doorsteps.