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You haven't seen New Zealand.
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2010-12-22, 12:14 | Link #10843 |
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Harry Potter actress was beaten and branded a prostitute by her brother
Harry Potter actress was beaten and branded a prostitute by her brother after
dating man 'who was not a Muslim': "A Harry Potter actress fled her home after her father and brother threatened to kill her for going out with a Hindu man, a court heard yesterday. Afshan Azad, 22, who appeared in the blockbuster movies as Padma Patil, was attacked and branded a ‘slag’ when Muslim relatives found out about her boyfriend." See: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...an-Muslim.html |
2010-12-22, 16:35 | Link #10844 | |
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2010-12-22, 16:46 | Link #10845 | |
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2010-12-22, 16:54 | Link #10846 | ||
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That in July 2005, conservative writer Bernard Goldberg ranked Savage number 61 in his book "100 People Who are Screwing Up America"? In July 2008, Savage claimed that the increasing rate of autism diagnoses was the result of "a racket" designed to get disability payments for "poorer families who have found a new way to be parasites on the government. I could go on, but seriously the man creates trainwrecks and moves on -- using this guy as a reference is only good for studies of demagoguery and mob instigation.
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2010-12-22, 18:57 | Link #10847 | |
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he's not alone check out Lyle H. Rossiter; Jr., M.D. he came out with the book similar to Savage's (~2006) but with PC-friendly title & content |
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2010-12-22, 19:38 | Link #10848 |
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More snow forecast, cold snap to dent German growth
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNew...6BI0WZ20101222 Winter is hard on the european this year...
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2010-12-22, 20:03 | Link #10849 | |
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You might as well have pointed to Lyndon LaRouche and his 'moonbats'. By his criteria almost every great thinker of the last three centuries including Thomas Jefferson, Albert Einstein, Teddy Roosevelt, and others were mentally ill. Its instructive to read his correspondence with another doctorate about the matter: http://www.exponentialimprovement.co...shtml#FromRoss The guy is as wrong about everything as Velikovsky is about physics. At this point you aren't helping my opinion of you at all.
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2010-12-22, 20:55 | Link #10850 | |
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Also a good number of these lame duck politicians are about to be replaced in a couple weeks. So they are trying to jam through Congress every single thing that they can before they are officially 'fired'. |
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2010-12-22, 21:07 | Link #10851 | |
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Sorta like the people who actually expected Obama to do all those things he promise in his campaign and they are now disappointed that he went back on a lot of them. I always wonder what those people were smoking when they bought into that change crap.
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2010-12-22, 21:09 | Link #10852 |
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Except they really aren't. They're just saying they are to create partisan divides. A good portion of Obama's policies originated from republicans, until Obama decided they were a good idea. Then they all of a sudden became socialist death panels because it gets them more votes.
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2010-12-22, 21:43 | Link #10853 | |
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Just because something came from a Republican, does not mean it was a Republican ideal. |
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2010-12-22, 22:21 | Link #10854 | |
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And do we really need to remind you of recent history and the dozens of items that members of the GOP came up with themselves over the last decade ... who later often contradicted themselves in order to oppose Obama when he incorporated them. News articles? Video clips?
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2010-12-22, 22:41 | Link #10855 | |
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Hell what good is posting videos or news articles in this forum, when so many in here disregard them anyway? |
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2010-12-22, 22:55 | Link #10856 | |
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Realistically, instead of disagreeing with Vexx, you should have simply said that the Republican politicians are not actual Republicans (or at least not how you view the Republican party), and I expect Vexx would have immediately agreed with you (since he is a Republican...from 25+ years ago back when the party actually stood for something), ending this little discussion. Whatever the case, "ideals" have nothing to do with politics and to use them interchangeably is just plain wrong. |
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2010-12-22, 22:58 | Link #10857 | |
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When the two parties actually have something in common, they do work together. The Invasion of Afghanistan for example. On Bush's tax cuts, they both wanted to extend at least part of the cuts, however they disagreed on who should get the cuts. Republicans wanted everyone to get those cuts, and Democrats wanted only the poor and middle class. Obama actually worked with Republicans and many Republicans applaud him for it(listen to Michael Medved on talk radio for proof). 80% of the time however, the two parties are opposed in their ideals. |
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2010-12-23, 00:25 | Link #10858 | ||
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And, sadly, enough, I can see where they are coming from. It is good politics (note, I said politics) to deny your opponent any legislation that would make them look good. The repeal of DADT, the extension of un-employment help, the passing of the new START, etc, are all powerful documents that will undoubtedly greatly help Obama's standing with his party and a great many of the moderates. So, why is it so hard to believe that an opposing party would try and limit these successes? (I'm not saying this has necessarily happened, but if you view it in a cynical manner, it is quite easy to see politicians as having abandoned their ideals and existing only for politics.) Quote:
That being said, I don't quite understand this meme that Obama has not incorporated Republican ideas into his plans. This is completely false. Obama has used many Republican ideas. But, instead of the Republicans acknowledging this, and then disagreeing based solely on principle (or ideal), they instead choose to say that Obama has done nothing and used nothing from the Republican Party. |
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2010-12-23, 00:41 | Link #10859 |
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My own point of view is that I barely recognize the party of Eisenhower and Teddy Roosevelt (or even Nixon/Ford for that matter). It will be a long, long time before I trust the GOP with the keys to *anything* again. They've proven they can't govern, they've proven they can't control their very small clientele (the plutocracy), they've proven they can't get their basic facts straight on history, or even the contents of something right in front of them. I've never thought much of the "social conservatives" to begin with and there don't seem to be any "practical fiscal conservatives who understand you have to maintain and improve the community and sometimes that costs money" left. Mostly what is left is the operatives of the robber barons who want another "Gilded Age" (ironic name) and wealthy sociopaths coupled with the fact-challenged neo-fascist screaming clowns.
At the moment, I'm maximally annoyed with the corporatist wing of the DNC as well so they're not exactly on my "friends" list either. The "Complex" appears to be in control of both parties to the detriment of the citizenry, small business, and communities.
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2010-12-23, 00:58 | Link #10860 |
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^Sadly, the modern Republican/Conservative is being taught to hate Teddy Roosevelt, and I expect if we give it a few years Eisenhower will be on the outs too. Goldwater was the last great conservative politician, and he has been dead for over a decade, and has been out of office for over two decades, but he was still "Mr. Conservative" until the day he died...too bad the conservative party changed so much underneath him that by the time he died he was almost Liberal compared to his fellow Republican politicians...
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