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Eratas123 · 2013-05-19, 03:45

That, and where were they in V8? Maya helps Chifuyu, but those two aren't even on the security detail! So what the hell?

ZeroXSEED · 2013-05-19, 03:46

Idiot plot eras, idiot plot

Hmm, need to fix this.

StratoSpear · 2013-05-19, 03:48

So by canon, PT actually has mooks?

ZeroXSEED · 2013-05-19, 03:51

Yep

Just rarely appear, more like elite mooks in theory

demino_hellsin · 2013-05-19, 03:52

It would, but its all IS frame parts. Remember that autumn actually snuck into ISA as an agent for a parts manufacturer. ISRI works kind of like that in some respect. Though they deal with research mostly.

ZeroXSEED · 2013-05-19, 03:57

Well then you did meant defense contractor, sorry.

Basically, anything related to international in scale must be sanctioned by the country. this is why I said it's not possible for them to get total leeway with their job.

demino_hellsin · 2013-05-19, 04:03

To a certain level they do. Even though it's treated as a weapon. The law over IS is still incomplete and was listed as sports equipment. The country would be a laughing stock for treating "sports equipment" so restrictively.

ZeroXSEED · 2013-05-19, 04:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

To a certain level they do. Even though it's treated as a weapon. The law over IS is still incomplete and was listed as sports equipment. The country would be a laughing stock for treating "sports equipment" so restrictively.

Joke aside, I guess you did follow Age's take on canon then. Moving on.

demino_hellsin · 2013-05-19, 04:15

Basically I'm taking advantage of Izuru's negligence.

On a separate note. ISA should take a few notes from the "school garden" when it comes to all female campus *_*

ZeroXSEED · 2013-05-19, 04:19

demino_hellsin · 2013-05-19, 04:28

Reading index V7. Great stuff for material

The structure of the prestigious all-girl schools is very interesting when explained in detail. In comparison, ISA feels sketchy and unfounded... So to speak.

Eratas123 · 2013-05-19, 04:36

That's because ISA isn't about urban segregation: Many of the students there are likely either scholarship or average. By contrast, EVERYONE in Tokiwadai is an Oujo-sama. Urban segregation plays a role in Index: Are you powerful or not? If yes, Academy City force feeds you money. If no, they'll put you down and give you barely enough to survive.

ZeroXSEED · 2013-05-19, 04:37

Feudal hierarchy with power play, eh? Interesting.

Playing this a bit in ST, hence why Ichika refused to join student council at first.

Eratas123 · 2013-05-19, 04:43

Sarashiki's seem to play it straight: Why in the hell would a teenager be leading the group? This is wholly irresponsible. Unless everyone in said group was younger than Tatenashi/Katana, I doubt they would leave everything to a 16 year old.

ZeroXSEED · 2013-05-19, 04:46

Either play it straight (led to deconstruction) or rationalize it with outside canon reference (led to AU), pick your poison.

So yeah, this is why it's hard to take canon seriously. But that's also a good motivation for many fanfic writer (male ego or shipping aside)

demino_hellsin · 2013-05-19, 04:48

I'm talking less about the design of each school. But instead, how each sketch is fleshed out. Academy city seems to breathe and feels alive. In comparison, ISA feels kind of stiff and conveniently pulls facilities out of nowhere.

ZeroXSEED · 2013-05-19, 04:51

Again, that happened when 60% of the time the author focus on T&A, and devote 20% more to introduce said facility or new character so we can have more T&A

besides, I'm not the one to hype, but there's clear difference in writing skill too (even though I'm disinterested with Index or Railgun)

Eratas123 · 2013-05-19, 05:05

You have to remember the differences: Academy City is its own nation state, led by Aleister Crowley "The Wickedest Man in The World", and has enough facilities to declare war with Russia and come out on top. Not to mention their funding and the fact that they're making demigods like Accelerator or Kakine. By contrast, ISA was made by Japan after getting pushed by the other countries. No shit ISA feels stiff; it was made out of obligation and has hormonal schoolgirls as its entire population.

ZeroXSEED · 2013-05-19, 05:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eratas123

No shit ISA feels stiff; it was made out of obligation and has hormonal schoolgirls as its entire population.

.....this is perfect justification

the student has only one day to go out, per week. Not to mention the heavy stigma.

demino_hellsin · 2013-05-19, 05:22

The thing is that the location itself isn't stiff. Just how it's handled. My god, kamen rider made a normal school seem so interesting. Investing in background people who made things alive. The little things like girls gossiping. A cafeteria which felt like there are people other than main cast. At best izuru just mentions that the cast is in a crowded place. Then suddenly every person disappears until its plot convenient for awkward moment, or some cliche would happen. Give a little more than the cafeteria menu for once @_@ we got these arena numbers but never get told exactly how many there are. Where's the library? You know. The little things?

2013-05-19, 03:45	Link #43621
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	That, and where were they in V8? Maya helps Chifuyu, but those two aren't even on the security detail! So what the hell? __________________

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ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Idiot plot eras, idiot plot Hmm, need to fix this. __________________

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StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	So by canon, PT actually has mooks? __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

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ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Yep Just rarely appear, more like elite mooks in theory __________________

2013-05-19, 03:57	Link #43626
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Well then you did meant defense contractor, sorry. Basically, anything related to international in scale must be sanctioned by the country. this is why I said it's not possible for them to get total leeway with their job. __________________

2013-05-19, 03:52	Link #43625
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	It would, but its all IS frame parts. Remember that autumn actually snuck into ISA as an agent for a parts manufacturer. ISRI works kind of like that in some respect. Though they deal with research mostly.

2013-05-19, 04:03	Link #43627
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	To a certain level they do. Even though it's treated as a weapon. The law over IS is still incomplete and was listed as sports equipment. The country would be a laughing stock for treating "sports equipment" so restrictively.

2013-05-19, 04:15	Link #43629
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Basically I'm taking advantage of Izuru's negligence. On a separate note. ISA should take a few notes from the "school garden" when it comes to all female campus _

2013-05-19, 04:19	Link #43630
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	__________________

2013-05-19, 04:28	Link #43631
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Reading index V7. Great stuff for material The structure of the prestigious all-girl schools is very interesting when explained in detail. In comparison, ISA feels sketchy and unfounded... So to speak.

2013-05-19, 04:36	Link #43632
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	That's because ISA isn't about urban segregation: Many of the students there are likely either scholarship or average. By contrast, EVERYONE in Tokiwadai is an Oujo-sama. Urban segregation plays a role in Index: Are you powerful or not? If yes, Academy City force feeds you money. If no, they'll put you down and give you barely enough to survive. __________________

2013-05-19, 04:37	Link #43633
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Feudal hierarchy with power play, eh? Interesting. Playing this a bit in ST, hence why Ichika refused to join student council at first. __________________

2013-05-19, 04:43	Link #43634
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Sarashiki's seem to play it straight: Why in the hell would a teenager be leading the group? This is wholly irresponsible. Unless everyone in said group was younger than Tatenashi/Katana, I doubt they would leave everything to a 16 year old. __________________

2013-05-19, 04:46	Link #43635
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Either play it straight (led to deconstruction) or rationalize it with outside canon reference (led to AU), pick your poison. So yeah, this is why it's hard to take canon seriously. But that's also a good motivation for many fanfic writer (male ego or shipping aside) __________________

2013-05-19, 04:48	Link #43636
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	I'm talking less about the design of each school. But instead, how each sketch is fleshed out. Academy city seems to breathe and feels alive. In comparison, ISA feels kind of stiff and conveniently pulls facilities out of nowhere.

2013-05-19, 04:51	Link #43637
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Again, that happened when 60% of the time the author focus on T&A, and devote 20% more to introduce said facility or new character so we can have more T&A besides, I'm not the one to hype, but there's clear difference in writing skill too (even though I'm disinterested with Index or Railgun) __________________

2013-05-19, 05:05	Link #43638
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	You have to remember the differences: Academy City is its own nation state, led by Aleister Crowley "The Wickedest Man in The World", and has enough facilities to declare war with Russia and come out on top. Not to mention their funding and the fact that they're making demigods like Accelerator or Kakine. By contrast, ISA was made by Japan after getting pushed by the other countries. No shit ISA feels stiff; it was made out of obligation and has hormonal schoolgirls as its entire population. __________________

2013-05-19, 05:22	Link #43640
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	The thing is that the location itself isn't stiff. Just how it's handled. My god, kamen rider made a normal school seem so interesting. Investing in background people who made things alive. The little things like girls gossiping. A cafeteria which felt like there are people other than main cast. At best izuru just mentions that the cast is in a crowded place. Then suddenly every person disappears until its plot convenient for awkward moment, or some cliche would happen. Give a little more than the cafeteria menu for once @_@ we got these arena numbers but never get told exactly how many there are. Where's the library? You know. The little things?