Character Discussion - Kallen

[lovecakecookies]

Originally Posted by Amaterasu Gate

Kallen's song, though, would fit if you put "Naoto" in there. (Both the walk your path and live for you part.)
If she decides to walk a different path from Lelouch's, it'd make sense for her to seek Naoto's dreams by herself.

yup.. either one would fit... so basically, if Lulu doesn't die this Sunday.. its for her brother.. if Lulu dies, then it is for Lulu (I think)


I do have to wonder why they are keeping Kallen the last one to freaking know the truth.. its so frustrating....Damn the suspense!! Even the Loli's seem to know..

[Tael]

Originally Posted by Amaterasu Gate

And you sir are one of those people
Way to miss the point entirely.

All that aside, and too cool you both down, look at my more objective point and let's start a discussion.

[Skellington2612]

Originally Posted by linkinstreet

lol. But I kinda understand C.C. at the time. She cannot stop Lelouch anymore, and yet in her heart she really wanted to. Thus when she sees Kallen wanting to stop Lelouch, she acknowledges that she might be the better person to do it.
Maturity? Maybe. Or maybe because Kallen is still young. Either way she gave him to Kallen because she knows both of them loved them but only one can really stop him.
Either way I an still hoping for a Kalulu ending.
And I DEMAND TO SEE THE KALULU EMPEROR. WHERE IS HE?

Is this a good time to make a coup?? since our dear Emperor isn´t here...
And we have been the one defending this nation...
I´m looking forwad for Kallen´s line to Lelouch and her battle with Suzaku... I think we´ll get a final confrontation like the one in s1

[lovecakecookies]

Originally Posted by Tael

Rather hard to see how that would work when she's currently on her brother's path, and has been the entire two seasons. She may be following Lelouch, but she's always been driven by her brother. Making that the focal point of her character song (along with living his part) seems rather... redundant? The lyrics imply that she is taking up a path, she can't take up a path she's already taken up. That makes no sense.

I agree... I think this makes most sense to apply to Lulu... either he's

dead/disappeared

and there was a different translation that said something like "I'll live on.." in it..
I wonder who told her that

[Amaterasu Gate]

Originally Posted by Tael

All that aside, and too cool you both down, look at my more objective point and let's start a discussion.

After all of this has ended where do you thing Kallen would go if she doesn't die. My main mofit is that she'll take care of her mother.

[Lolipopo]

Originally Posted by Amaterasu Gate

And you sir are one of those people
Way to miss the point entirely.

A lot of people explained you why this idea is unlikely. Did you miss their point ?

Totally okay with those idea above. Kallen's song to Naoto is clearly unlikely, she could have sing to him in S1, but no, it was already to Zero. Now, it's clearly a song about Lelouch.

[Tael]

Originally Posted by Amaterasu Gate

After all of this has ended where do you thing Kallen would go if she doesn't die. My main mofit is that she'll take care of her mother.

Your point being? Who made that ending possible? Was it Naoto? Last I checked, he's been dead for the entirety of the story.

Originally Posted by lovecakecookies

I agree... I think this makes most sense to apply to Lulu... either he's

dead/disappeared

and there was a different translation that said something like "I'll live on.." in it..
I wonder who told her that

If this character song has anything to say on what happens in the end of this story, then we're looking at a very Yoko-esc ending for Kallen, for a contemporary reference.

[Amaterasu Gate]

Originally Posted by Tael

Your point being? Who made that ending possible? Was it Naoto? Last I checked, he's been dead for the entirety of the story.

..........I was reffering to the epilogue! Not the damn song!

[lovecakecookies]

Originally Posted by Tael

Your point being? Who made that ending possible? Was it Naoto? Last I checked, he's been dead for the entirety of the story.



If this character song has anything to say on what happens in the end of this story, then we're looking at a very Yoko-esc ending for Kallen, for a contemporary reference.

excuse my ignorance but what is a Yoko-esc ending for Kallen??

[Tael]

Originally Posted by Amaterasu Gate

..........I was reffering to the epilogue! Not the damn song!

Calm down, my misunderstanding. It is hard to tell when someone jumps onto a completely different topic.

For the ending? I'll likely agree, Kallen will be with her mother.

Originally Posted by lovecakecookies

excuse my ignorance but what is a Yoko-esc ending for Kallen??

Spoiler for TTGL - Yoko:

Yoko never stopped loving Kamina and carried his ideals with her through her life. I can see a similar end for Kallen if this plays out as I can possibly see it happen, and she will carry on Lelouch's ideals (and probably watch over Nunally) and never stop loving Lelouch. A lonely but also happy ending.

[Lolipopo]

Originally Posted by Amaterasu Gate

I wasn't referring to you obviously, since you wouldn't pay attention anyways

And so ? I don't even see the point there.
You told that he missed the point of your argument but you don't bother giving proper answer to those who are giving you counter arguments.

Bah useless to try to talk with you, just like with a lot of people who came in Kallen's thread a while ago...

Back to the thread, Lovecookies, are we sure that Kaguya knows the truth ? It doesn't seemsso...but Kallen is going to learn the truth for sure. The better for the end, as we say.
Tss I don't like Yoko at all. But yeah her ending is the most likely.
Lovecookies :

Spoil Gurren lagan

Spoiler:

Yoko loved ones end up dead. Both. This girl was cursed

[Amaterasu Gate]

Originally Posted by Tael

Calm down, my misunderstanding. It is hard to tell when someone jumps onto a completely different topic.

For the ending? I'll likely agree, Kallen will be with her mother.

Oops, sorry about
I was hoping she may go back to Ashford Academy like Lelouch would want.

[lovecakecookies]

Originally Posted by Tael

Calm down, my misunderstanding. It is hard to tell when someone jumps onto a completely different topic.

For the ending? I'll likely agree, Kallen will be with her mother.

Spoiler for TTGL - Yoko:

Yoko never stopped loving Kamina and carried his ideals with her through her life. I can see a similar end for Kallen if this plays out as I can possibly see it happen, and she will carry on Lelouch's ideals (and probably watch over Nunally) and never stop loving Lelouch. A lonely but also happy ending.

Oh.. umm sorry one last thing did Kamina

Spoiler for umm:

DIE or just Disappear?

This wont be a bad ending for Kallen, but I don't want her to be lonely...

[Tael]

Originally Posted by Amaterasu Gate

Oops, sorry about
I was hoping she may go back to Ashford Academy like Lelouch would want.

This depends. We do not know the fates of Lelouch, Nunally, Kallen, and C.C.. Lelouch may die and we may end up with a Kallen x C.C. x Nunally end for all we know. It is simply pointless to really speculate about this show anymore because death and the plot's congruency seem to have become luxuries more than ultimatums.

As for the song, for a short aside, I'm curious where/why that little bit was leaked. C.C.'s character song was leaked in its entirety long before it was released, but here is Kallen's with all of 6 or so lines.

Originally Posted by lovecakecookies

Oh.. umm sorry one last thing did Kamina

Spoiler for umm:

DIE or just Disappear?

This wont be a bad ending for Kallen, but I don't want her to be lonely...

Spoiler for Kamina:

He died.

If she is happy, then she really isn't lonely. She seems lonely, but whether or not she herself is is another question. For her, living for Lelouch and (possibly) having had some sort of confirmation, may be all she needs.

[Amaterasu Gate]

Originally Posted by lovecakecookies

This wont be a bad ending for Kallen, but I don't want her to be lonely...

Either that or she dies.....which do you prefer I going for the latter

[yvj]

Originally Posted by Tael

This depends. We do not know the fates of Lelouch, Nunally, Kallen, and C.C.. Lelouch may die and we may end up with a Kallen x C.C. x Nunally end for all we know. It is simply pointless to really speculate about this show anymore because death and the plot's congruency seem to have become luxuries more than ultimatums.

Well maybe all the happiness and "victories" in this episode were the set up before the fall.

Kallen ending up with Nunnally is quite possible

Originally Posted by Tael

As for the song, for a short aside, I'm curious where/why that little bit was leaked. C.C.'s character song was leaked in its entirety long before it was released, but here is Kallen's with all of 6 or so lines.

Maybe it had way too obvious plot points featured in the song

[youngde]

My current theory for Kallen is either one-sided/tragic Kalulu (makes me sad ), but at least knowing what Lelouch was doing and realized he cared for her enough to push her away and have her hate him than let her die.

Probably returns to Ashford. Is able to live in a peaceful world w/ her mother.

Maybe, (a bit of a stretch), since she's half Britannian, she'll serve as Nunally's KoO.

EDIT: Sorry dumb question. What does IIRC mean?

[Skellington2612]

What haves me really anxious is the position the survivors will have... will Brittania still exist or exist as a monarchy?
Will Nunally be Empress or die or just go back to Ashford, I´m pretty sure that whatever Nunally does is going to be joined with Kallen... they´ve got things in common...
If Suzaku survives which I´sure even if he wants to die... I think he will be in a position similar to the one he has now...
Lulu I don´t know, he goes to exile or back to Ashford or dies (more likely)
CC, I´m fearing she will die... or if she´s lucky she goes to Ashford doubt it..
I´m going to sleep a bit and make my homework for tomorrow, keep defending our motherland!!
For the name of the Holy Empire of Kalulu, and it´s Empress (me), I´m accepting a girls goverment whoever wnats to join as second Empress please say so...

[linkinstreet]

Originally Posted by Skellington2612

What haves me really anxious is the position the survivors will have... will Brittania still exist or exist as a monarchy?
Will Nunally be Empress or die or just go back to Ashford, I´m pretty sure that whatever Nunally does is going to be joined with Kallen... they´ve got things in common...
If Suzaku survives which I´sure even if he wants to die... I think he will be in a position similar to the one he has now...
Lulu I don´t know, he goes to exile or back to Ashford or dies (more likely)
CC, I´m fearing she will die... or if she´s luccky she goes to Ashford doubt it..

the monarchy is no more. Even the family left at britannia has now become maids

[lovecakecookies]

Originally Posted by Amaterasu Gate

Either that or she dies.....which do you prefer I going for the latter

ummm..I prefer she lives and gets with someone else eventually..she can move on, but still remember Lulu I guess..