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Forbin · 2007-01-05, 12:40

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Originally Posted by PatPeter

Would anyone rather they continue the Hellsing Anime INSTEAD of the OVA? Volume 1 has already come out in English and I watched it at my Anime Club and I did not like it that much, I really think that, though the graphics are awesome, the storyline is screwed up.
1) The priest gets killed in a random feild, doesn't get the awesome death-on-the-cross
2) Seras screams before Alucard drinks her blood
3) Seras uses faces that take away the serious aspects of the anime, you know like ^_^ ... I hate what they have done to Hellsing, seriously.

Because the Mangaka hates Gonzo.

PatPeter · 2007-01-07, 00:56

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Originally Posted by Forbin

Because the Mangaka hates Gonzo.

I probably know what you are talking about, I am too lazy to look up words, so elaboration would be helpful.

PatPeter · 2007-01-07, 01:11

I now wish to list questions left at the end of the Hellsing Anime (as the general populus only cares about finishing off Alexander) and if they are mentioned in the manga, my point is that I think that they should be in the second season (I don't think the two episodes where alucard kills alexander is a whole season):
1) What will Seras do as she is now a full draculina?
2) What is the Cromwell Initiative (I think that they talk about it in the manga {haven't read it}?
3) *Obvious* How will the battle Alucard vs. Alexander go?
4) *What is the Dark Continent?* (I really want to know this one)
5) Will they find the maker of the chip?
6) Will there be any more types of monsters?
7) What did Alucard do to frighten Incognito so much?

Feel free to answer some of these guys, I do not read anything about manga or anime, I just watch and read and try to figure it out on my own (P.S. I also needed to join some forum so that I can argue with my friends about specific anime or manga without bs ing most of it.)

Forgive me, I had more but cannot remember, I'll post them later

Royal_Devil · 2007-01-07, 17:54

1) For the original anime we'll never know. As for the manga and Ultimate...either read Vol 7 or wait for Ultimate to animate it. Just wait til you see what she does with someones head.

2) according to Wiki: Alucard's vast powers are controlled entirely by the heir to the Hellsing family (currently Integra Hellsing). This is apparently enforced by something called the "control art restriction system." There are shown to be six levels of restriction and six corresponding states, with lower numbers meaning greater levels of power. Under certain circumstances, Alucard can release some of his greater powers himself; a component of his restriction system called the "Cromwell Approval" seems to influence this (Cromwell probably relating to Oliver Cromwell, a famous figure in English history. Cromwell's name being used may be related to the fact that he was Protestant, like the Hellsing institute). Alucard can often be heard stating what level he is releasing immediately prior to combat ("Releasing control art restriction to level two"). This is, perhaps, a requirement of the release mechanism, but this has never been confirmed. Another possible reason is that it is to unnerve his opponents as he goes into battle, given what has been seen of his personality this is quite likely.

3) It's epic. and handled better since Anderson is overall better in the manga.

4) Africa

5) yep

6) More chip vampires, werwolves, and whatever else the real enemy cooked up.

7) answered already.

Trust me when I say everything during and after the Valentine brothers will put the anime series to shame and make any complaints you have disapear. Vol. 1 definately was the weakest of the manga and it shows in Ultimate.

PatPeter · 2007-01-08, 02:28

Sweeeeeetness I was right on every question, I would just like to see them in the art of the anime (I really do not like the art of the OVA). And after watching the OVA again...yeah if the OVA gets to the point the anime was supposed to get to, with the entire courtyard of ghouls (watch the intro to anime) then I might watch it.

==>OK, I supposively, according to one friend, need more proof to prove this (right or wrong) but does Alucard use Divine Magic to kill Incognito, thus the white hair ect. ect?

==>ADD ON TO PREVIOS LIST: What demons does Alucard use?

Other things my anime club and friends said:
-Alexander is Scottish
-I say he is Irish

-The Nazis are somehow involved in the ghoul uprising
-I really have nothing to say to that :P

Things I cannot remember hearing, but argue about:
-Incognito was a random end to the season as they could not come up with anything better, also that he looks stupid
-I say: He summoed a friggin demon from hell, I WANT to see more of that.

Royal_Devil · 2007-01-08, 12:54

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Originally Posted by PatPeter

And after watching the OVA again...yeah if the OVA gets to the point the anime was supposed to get to, with the entire courtyard of ghouls (watch the intro to anime) then I might watch it.

Pft. You get something a lot better than a simple courtyard of ghouls in the manga/OVA.

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-The Nazis are somehow involved in the ghoul uprising
-I really have nothing to say to that :P

The Nazis are awesome in Hellsing. Just wait and see.

PatPeter · 2007-01-15, 00:18

OK but no one answered my question:

Does Alucard use Divine magic to kill Incognito?

orion · 2007-01-15, 00:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatPeter

OK but no one answered my question:

Does Alucard use Divine magic to kill Incognito?

Spoiler:

PatPeter · 2007-01-16, 19:23

*<=== has seen all of the anime*

Wait so why does Incognito become so scared? Is he scared becase Alucard is the 'original vampire'?

And I would argue vlad's being the first vampire, reply if you want me to present my case.

Forbin · 2007-01-16, 19:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatPeter

I probably know what you are talking about, I am too lazy to look up words, so elaboration would be helpful.

I don't remember where the post is, but the Mangaka expressed 'EXTREME' displeasure at Gonzo for changing the 'tone' of is his work and he refused to sign a 2nd 'Cool' agreement.

I don't know the details, but I do notice that Victoria in the OVA is a lot more comical looking than Gonzo's Victoria.

smeg4brainsuk · 2007-01-29, 05:05

Does anyone know the release date of the 3rd OVA? im pretty sure it was meant for the 7th of feb but i have seen no more information on this and they have released no other trailers for it at present :/

chaos_alfa · 2007-01-29, 07:16

at there official site it say 2007.X.X for the release of the 3rd OVA
http://www.geneon-ent.co.jp/rondorobe/anime/hellsing/

Tempest35 · 2007-01-30, 18:25

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Originally Posted by PatPeter

*<=== has seen all of the anime*

Wait so why does Incognito become so scared? Is he scared becase Alucard is the 'original vampire'?

I don't know about being THE original vampire. He's a genuine one but odds are that he's not the FIRST one. Only thing special about Vlad's case is that he was reportedly not bitten - he became.

the.Merines · 2007-01-30, 18:52

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Originally Posted by kayos

Wasn't the first Vampire recored in the Bible, I mean wasn't Adams first wife a Vampire. I may be wrong, I've never read the Bible.

Pretty much, yes. Lillith is referred to as a "night demon," which has been construed through the ages to mean "vampire" more or less. Of course the Bible can and also cannot be called a "record," so the argument is partially flawed.

NoSanninWa · 2007-01-31, 02:45

Actually "night demon" is intended to mean succubus, not vampire.

smeg4brainsuk · 2007-01-31, 03:38

Lilith is reffered to as both a vampire and night demon. She is the mother of all Succubi and Incubi

Tempest35 · 2007-01-31, 08:15

In the terms of this discussion, I think we can say that Lilith is the precurssor of all the humanoid monsters running amok.
So we can say that Icognito is a decendant of Lilith's lineage (from the Dark Continent). Alucard's obviously faced opponents from that place or at least heard about it enough to identify certain things.

smeg4brainsuk · 2007-01-31, 13:22

Clicky Here

Boooooo, i knew this was coming. It was meant to be out on the 9th of feb but after seeing no trailers or additional info this close to release you kinda knew it was getting delayed ><

New release date is sometime this year :/

smeg4brainsuk · 2007-03-06, 12:32

Clicky Here

The third OVA will be released on the 4th of April with some rather cool dustjackets.

smeg4brainsuk · 2007-03-19, 13:24

Clicky Here

Some rather nice images of the forth coming 3rd OVA for those that are interested. Release date is still set at the 4th of april

2007-01-07, 01:11	Link #143
PatPeter Member Join Date: Jan 2007	I now wish to list questions left at the end of the Hellsing Anime (as the general populus only cares about finishing off Alexander) and if they are mentioned in the manga, my point is that I think that they should be in the second season (I don't think the two episodes where alucard kills alexander is a whole season): 1) What will Seras do as she is now a full draculina? 2) What is the Cromwell Initiative (I think that they talk about it in the manga {haven't read it}? 3) Obvious How will the battle Alucard vs. Alexander go? 4) What is the Dark Continent? (I really want to know this one) 5) Will they find the maker of the chip? 6) Will there be any more types of monsters? 7) What did Alucard do to frighten Incognito so much? Feel free to answer some of these guys, I do not read anything about manga or anime, I just watch and read and try to figure it out on my own (P.S. I also needed to join some forum so that I can argue with my friends about specific anime or manga without bs ing most of it.) Forgive me, I had more but cannot remember, I'll post them later Last edited by PatPeter; 2007-01-07 at 01:12. Reason: I forgot to mention I argue wit hmy friends

2007-01-31, 02:45	Link #155
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	Actually "night demon" is intended to mean succubus, not vampire. __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.

2007-01-07, 17:54	Link #144
Royal_Devil Powder Hunter Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 36	1) For the original anime we'll never know. As for the manga and Ultimate...either read Vol 7 or wait for Ultimate to animate it. Just wait til you see what she does with someones head. 2) according to Wiki: Alucard's vast powers are controlled entirely by the heir to the Hellsing family (currently Integra Hellsing). This is apparently enforced by something called the "control art restriction system." There are shown to be six levels of restriction and six corresponding states, with lower numbers meaning greater levels of power. Under certain circumstances, Alucard can release some of his greater powers himself; a component of his restriction system called the "Cromwell Approval" seems to influence this (Cromwell probably relating to Oliver Cromwell, a famous figure in English history. Cromwell's name being used may be related to the fact that he was Protestant, like the Hellsing institute). Alucard can often be heard stating what level he is releasing immediately prior to combat ("Releasing control art restriction to level two"). This is, perhaps, a requirement of the release mechanism, but this has never been confirmed. Another possible reason is that it is to unnerve his opponents as he goes into battle, given what has been seen of his personality this is quite likely. 3) It's epic. and handled better since Anderson is overall better in the manga. 4) Africa 5) yep 6) More chip vampires, werwolves, and whatever else the real enemy cooked up. 7) answered already. Trust me when I say everything during and after the Valentine brothers will put the anime series to shame and make any complaints you have disapear. Vol. 1 definately was the weakest of the manga and it shows in Ultimate.

2007-01-08, 02:28	Link #145
PatPeter Member Join Date: Jan 2007	Sweeeeeetness I was right on every question, I would just like to see them in the art of the anime (I really do not like the art of the OVA). And after watching the OVA again...yeah if the OVA gets to the point the anime was supposed to get to, with the entire courtyard of ghouls (watch the intro to anime) then I might watch it. ==>OK, I supposively, according to one friend, need more proof to prove this (right or wrong) but does Alucard use Divine Magic to kill Incognito, thus the white hair ect. ect? ==>ADD ON TO PREVIOS LIST: What demons does Alucard use? Other things my anime club and friends said: -Alexander is Scottish -I say he is Irish -The Nazis are somehow involved in the ghoul uprising -I really have nothing to say to that :P Things I cannot remember hearing, but argue about: -Incognito was a random end to the season as they could not come up with anything better, also that he looks stupid -I say: He summoed a friggin demon from hell, I WANT to see more of that.

2007-01-15, 00:18	Link #147
PatPeter Member Join Date: Jan 2007	OK but no one answered my question: Does Alucard use Divine magic to kill Incognito?

2007-01-16, 19:23	Link #149
PatPeter Member Join Date: Jan 2007	<=== has seen all of the anime Wait so why does Incognito become so scared? Is he scared becase Alucard is the 'original vampire'? And I would argue vlad's being the first vampire, reply if you want me to present my case.

2007-01-29, 05:05	Link #151
smeg4brainsuk Ayanami's Concubine Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bosom's of the almighty Goddess Age: 38	Does anyone know the release date of the 3rd OVA? im pretty sure it was meant for the 7th of feb but i have seen no more information on this and they have released no other trailers for it at present :/

2007-01-29, 07:16	Link #152
chaos_alfa Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands	at there official site it say 2007.X.X for the release of the 3rd OVA http://www.geneon-ent.co.jp/rondorobe/anime/hellsing/

2007-01-31, 03:38	Link #156
smeg4brainsuk Ayanami's Concubine Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bosom's of the almighty Goddess Age: 38	Lilith is reffered to as both a vampire and night demon. She is the mother of all Succubi and Incubi

2007-01-31, 08:15	Link #157
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	In the terms of this discussion, I think we can say that Lilith is the precurssor of all the humanoid monsters running amok. So we can say that Icognito is a decendant of Lilith's lineage (from the Dark Continent). Alucard's obviously faced opponents from that place or at least heard about it enough to identify certain things.

2007-01-31, 13:22	Link #158
smeg4brainsuk Ayanami's Concubine Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bosom's of the almighty Goddess Age: 38	Clicky Here Boooooo, i knew this was coming. It was meant to be out on the 9th of feb but after seeing no trailers or additional info this close to release you kinda knew it was getting delayed >< New release date is sometime this year :/

2007-03-06, 12:32	Link #159
smeg4brainsuk Ayanami's Concubine Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bosom's of the almighty Goddess Age: 38	Clicky Here The third OVA will be released on the 4th of April with some rather cool dustjackets.

2007-03-19, 13:24	Link #160
smeg4brainsuk Ayanami's Concubine Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bosom's of the almighty Goddess Age: 38	Clicky Here Some rather nice images of the forth coming 3rd OVA for those that are interested. Release date is still set at the 4th of april