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2009-10-19, 16:18 | Link #21822 | |
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My "argument" with Sol (which btw, honestly, i did not even go to the Shirley thread to see his last or non last reply, it was way too irrelevant in the end, so w/e) is irrelevant. You just tried to downgrade Kallen again, while claiming it was a "joke." You actually, might have had true intentions about this particular "joke," but no one (or at least, i and as i can see other people too) believes you anymore, when you come to Kallen thread. And given your history, i cannot blame anyone about that. Your burned a lot of cards, lot of cards around this place. |
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2009-10-19, 16:29 | Link #21823 | |
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Look, I can assure you I was NOT trying to downgrade her. I know I've had my rage explosions in the past, but that was a genuine attempt at humor. Ah, but now having read the rest of your post I see your point. Fine, it seems I'm no longer welcome here. I'll leave now, and I'll pray that some day I can regain everyone's trust and respect. Peace out. |
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2009-10-19, 16:35 | Link #21824 | |
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And now, that the drama store is closed, we should focus on on-topicness again. Blade, wry, where are you? Bring a subject up pal. |
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2009-10-19, 16:44 | Link #21825 | |
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Now coming for someone who seems to think of the girl as a skank anyway, the whole "she wants to get into lulu's pants loooooolahahahahaha" doesn't sound really funny. So yeah. No, let us remind that Lelouch was the one who had the hots for her, both emotionally and physically, and this while their journey together began at the first episode and finished at the last one. Kallen is the only girl who wasn't tie to him post serie and yet she is the one who get the greatest devellopment with him. We got everything between them; Knowledge, ignorance, curiosity, friendship, desire, treason, angst, and finally sacrifice. And I'm sure I'm forgetting some stuff there. Really, replace the main plot by some kind of teen serie scanerio (OTH, Greek, whatever) and you get those two as the main stream, the main couple of the serie, eyeing each other, to proud to admit it, hooking up, breaking, bickering, leaousing... All those stuff which are keeping most people interest in basic scenarios. And to crown the whole thing, aside from the romance plot, we even have two people existing of their own. Lelouch cause he is well, Lelouch, and Kallen being the pilot, the bodyguard, the girl who saved him countless time. This pairing was made of win. Oh and for the Shirley thread question, about Kallen, in turn 13 he gave her the most honest and thankful smile ever. For me, this arigato smile was worth all his smiles he gave to his whole bunch of friends at Ashford. Didn't wish to bring Kallen in Shirley thread, so yeah. She got her smile, and so much more.
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2009-10-19, 16:46 | Link #21826 | |
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2009-10-19, 16:52 | Link #21827 | |
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Well, for every facade that IS obvious, i will call you out. Sorry, can't go against my nature. As for Loli, she never went to Shirley thread to tell everyone nice-words, to call Shirley in certain other nice words, and to give someone a certain other nasty rep. which is bringing me up to my original point, when people do jump to behaviors like this, it is because they ain't cool. What can you say? |
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2009-10-19, 17:19 | Link #21829 | |
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So yeah of course, my sig is a terrible offense for those fictional characters and for their fans. I guess parodies with KY involving him saying to Jesus he thinks muslims have better ideas is insulting for catholic people as well then. Please, don't try to find a safe path à la "Bouuh I did that but she did this !"; You are the one always trying to downgrade Kallen's character, even I, or Yvj, who were, in the past, of those people always trying to get things to go better, have noticed that your jokes aren't jokes anymore. So yeah, either you assume the fact people can't take you in a funny way anymore, either you continue to debate and drive the off topic away, but that will be without me. I'm tired wasting time, and wasting pages of this thread deducated to Kallen, trying to talk to haters who are just that, haters. Now we are in Kallen's thread and Kallen's fans wouldn't want to see it closed. If you dislike her chara you are invited to join hate group in others part of the web, unless you want to discuss your disliking of her but that would mean recognize that which...well. We don't want to see this thread closed anyway, so since in the past, noone of us actually reported you for all the nice things you said (and we even tried to avoid that) if you respect that, at least a bit, you'll stop those complain or do so through PM or whatever, in an other place. That's it.
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2009-10-19, 17:22 | Link #21831 | |
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No, let us remind that Lelouch was the one who had the hots for her, both emotionally and physically, and this while their journey together began at the first episode and finished at the last one. Kallen is the only girl who wasn't tie to him post serie and yet she is the one who get the greatest devellopment with him. We got everything between them; Knowledge, ignorance, curiosity, friendship, desire, treason, angst, and finally sacrifice. And I'm sure I'm forgetting some stuff there. Really, replace the main plot by some kind of teen serie scanerio (OTH, Greek, whatever) and you get those two as the main stream, the main couple of the serie, eyeing each other, to proud to admit it, hooking up, breaking, bickering, jelousing... All those stuff which are keeping most people interest in basic scenarios. And to crown the whole thing, aside from the romance plot, we even have two people existing of their own. Lelouch cause he is well, Lelouch, and Kallen being the pilot, the bodyguard, the girl who saved him countless time. We just miss the words actually. The confession through the words, but actions speak louder than words and with everything we got in season 2 and the final blow... I'd say 9,5 :P
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2009-10-19, 17:23 | Link #21832 | |
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8 eh, make it 8.5 EDIT: BTW Loli, did you say "deducated"? That's awesome. A mix between dedicated and educated |
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2009-10-19, 17:28 | Link #21833 |
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I am being perfectly honest and reasonable here. I am giving it a 10. For the sole reason, it was never crystal as canon, and yet, it caused so many outrages in other fanbases, that even if it was crystal-canon, it would not achieve that.
For that sole reason, i give it a 10/10. /apart from the other stuff Loli said too of course, i am being cold-calculating here though. |
2009-10-20, 01:59 | Link #21834 | |
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I mean, if you really count, Lelouch had the most memorable moments concerning his lovelife with her. Sure, he spends more time with C.C, but half of the time he spends with C.C involves her lying down on a couch, munching a pizza and hugging the doll. Shirley might have had a decent shot, but she doesn't spend enough time with Lelouch to fully understand him. Kallen, however... Well, the fact that she is the leader of Lelouch's personal KMF unit shows how much Lelouch trusts her. When Lelouch was about to inject refrain into his system, who stopped him? Kallen. Who got asked to return to Ashford together with Lelouch? Kallen. Who did Lelouch repeatedly tell to live, and protected her from his own dangerous plans? Kallen. My god, if that doesn't spell canon, I don't know what does.
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2009-10-20, 02:24 | Link #21835 |
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To tell you the truth, what Lelouch and Kallen had, was more strictly professional. When Lelouch tried to advance with Kallen, she refused him as he was clearly out of his mind. Also, both of them seem to have no depth to their relation. We barely see either of them dream, or think about each other romantically.
I think, both of them were sort of playful, but their goals were more important. Also, Kallen looked at Lelouch like a leader, more than a lover. The writer's should have patched her up with Suzaku. Just imagine the sex . Going inappropriate here. I apologize. Last edited by HollowScar; 2009-10-20 at 02:58. |
2009-10-20, 02:36 | Link #21836 | |
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2009-10-20, 02:58 | Link #21837 |
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I mean that sure there was maybe a something there, but their goals and cause came first, for which reason they could not take their relationship to the next level. Lelouch already had Shirley, who was sort of official to him, and with whom, the romantic relationship is more evident. Kallen did have some of her moment's, but she wanted to look at Lelouch as Zero, more than a lover.
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2009-10-20, 03:19 | Link #21838 |
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except that he already gives up on any procepect of a relationship with Shirley in season 1
she wasnt offcially his either, even though she loved him even before the show started the romantic relationship between him and Shirley is not any more evident, just more simplistic, since its in a highschool environment where teenage boyfriend girlfriend relationships are more common his relationship with kallen is mostly (MOSTLY) centered around his life as zero (read: his real life) and people DO have battlefield relationships (especially in mecha anime) as for they both caring more about their goals then the development of romance, i'd agree with you if those terms were exclusive most of the time they were both fighting for the same general thing, and their lives depended on each other, which is actually a PLUS in developing a relationship rather then pushing them away and the only time when their goals DO conflict (zero-requiem) its because lelouch exclusively pushes kallen away for the stated purpose of protecting her as for the "there was maybe something there" kallen remains to the end of the show the only girl lelouch actually showed an interest in (saying "he was out of his mind" is bullshit, he was depressed, and was looking for something to make him feel good) the only girl who made him repeatedly place ABOVE his plans (aside from nunnaly) so with all do respect, i completely disagree with you
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2009-10-20, 03:20 | Link #21839 |
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i would definately have to agree with Paladinoras that Kalulu was the only true couple where by the end both characters reciprocated each others feelings.
with CC they were only together out of obligation with Shirley it was only Shirley loving Lelouch but with Kallen Lelouch loved her probably the 2nd most if not equally the most (first being his love for his sister) also bladeofdarkness you have made a great point.
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2009-10-20, 04:36 | Link #21840 | |
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Very noticeable during turn 19 for both characters. Turn 21, Kallen wouldn't move on from him without an answer. Not something she never said before when Lelouch was still Zero. And turn 22 completely throws Kallen looking at Lelouch as Zero out the window when he became emperor.
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